The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Blocky » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:04 pm

Goku beats all those versions of Superman.

Some battles: (equal power, unlimited or limited stamina)
Saibamen vs King Piccolo
Raditz vs Base Gogeta
Goku (23st Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Freeza
Hildegarn and Super Janemba vs Bojack and Hatchiyack
Master Roshi (Max Power) vs Broly (M8)
Recoome vs Super Android 13
Bio-Broly vs Dr. Wheelo vs Lord Slug
The Ginyu Force vs Buuhan
Monster Carrot vs King Cold
Cell Jr. vs Kid Buu
Janemba vs Pikkon
Yamcha vs Cooler

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by pacz360 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:19 pm

Blocky wrote:Goku beats all those versions of Superman.

Some battles: (equal power, unlimited or limited stamina)
Saibamen vs King Piccolo
Raditz vs Base Gogeta
Goku (23st Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Freeza
Hildegarn and Super Janemba vs Bojack and Hatchiyack
Master Roshi (Max Power) vs Broly (M8)
Recoome vs Super Android 13
Bio-Broly vs Dr. Wheelo vs Lord Slug
The Ginyu Force vs Buuhan
Monster Carrot vs King Cold
Cell Jr. vs Kid Buu
Janemba vs Paikuhan
Yamcha vs Cooler
King piccolo
Gogeta
Freeza
Idk
Roshi
Android 13
Buuhan
King cold
Kid buu
Janemba
Cooler

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by pacz360 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:24 pm

kirby runs a gauntlet
1.Perfect cell
2.Sp perfect cell
3.Fat buu
4.kid buu
5.Super buu
6.Buutenks
7.buuhan
P.s no star rod.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:40 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:SSGSS Goku vs Superman (Superman The Movie/II/III/IV/Returns)
SSGSS Goku vs Superman (Man of Steel)
SSGSS Goku vs Superman (Superman: The Animated Series)
SSGSS Goku vs Superman (Smallvile)

Based on what the Death Battle! have showed us, Goku doesn't stand a chance against Silver Age, Modern Age, and New 52 Superman. What about these versions of Superman, have they showed any feats that make him stronger, faster, and more durable than Goku?
LOL That you actually believe Deathbattle and their bullshit.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:57 am

Gotenks Ssj3 (/w Fan speculation) vs Superman (Deathbattle)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:08 am

Blocky wrote: Some battles: (equal power, unlimited or limited stamina)
Saibamen vs King Piccolo
Raditz vs Base Gogeta
Goku (23st Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Freeza
Hildegarn and Super Janemba vs Bojack and Hatchiyack
Master Roshi (Max Power) vs Broly (M8)
Recoome vs Super Android 13
Bio-Broly vs Dr. Wheelo vs Lord Slug
The Ginyu Force vs Buuhan
Monster Carrot vs King Cold
Cell Jr. vs Kid Buu
Janemba vs Paikuhan
Yamcha vs Cooler
Okay, taking into account equal power...

Piccolo (Saibamen are undisciplined beasts)
Gogeta (Raditz isn't doing anything against the combined fighting prowess of Buu saga Goku and Vegeta)
Goku (Freeza never trained, and psychic powers will only take him so far against an equally-matched opponent)
Hirudegarn and Janemba. They're up to here in weird powers, Bojack and Hatchiyack are just brutes (though in the original video game, Hatchiyack did have multiple forms, but still)
Roshi--Broly showed basically zero fighting skill
Probably a stalemate. They're both big bruisers with nothing too special up their sleeves.
Slug I guess, due to regeneration?
The Ginyus. If up against five people of equal power, Buu's just gonna get smacked around until Ginyu switches bodies with him (and he would--a body with almost endless regeneration? Yes please!) One of Ginyu's henchmen might get absorbed or eaten first, though.
The only way Cold could win is beam spam, and I don't see that happening. Carrot offers a pre-battle handshake. Cold accepts. The Emperor of the known universe is eaten by a talking rabbit.
Buu. His regeneration is far superior to any version of Cell's, and we don't even know if the Jrs. had it.
Paikuhan. If Vegeta can get past Janemba's technique, Paikuhan can, and add in equal power and some nifty special techniques of his own...
They probably deadlock until Yamcha goes for the Sokidan or Wolf Fang Fist, and wins.
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pacz360 wrote:Also quick question why mentioned death battle?
Because we got Goku vs Superman from them?
I mean I guess? They weren't exactly the first people to ever do this debate.
h0kuten wrote: LOL That you actually believe Deathbattle and their bullshit.
I don't agree with them either, but that's a whooooole other debate from this thread.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:06 am

Mecha Freeza vs. Eyebrow Snake
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:57 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Mecha Freeza vs. Eyebrow Snake
Snake is weaksauce. Kids were holding back so they didn't turn an "innocent" animal into a red mist. So, Freeza.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:08 am

pacz360 wrote:kirby runs a gauntlet
1.Perfect cell
2.Sp perfect cell
3.Fat buu
4.kid buu
5.Super buu
6.Buutenks
7.buuhan
P.s no star rod.
Dies before he gets to 1.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:27 am

h0kuten wrote:Gotenks Ssj3 (/w Fan speculation) vs Superman (Deathbattle)
Superman, all the way.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:32 am

Majin Vegeta Ssj2 + Super Perfect Cell vs Goku Ssj2 + Kid Gohan Ssj2 vs Broly LSSJ (M10) + Teen Gohan Ssj2 (M10)

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:37 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Yamcha vs Bacteria
Yamcha holds his breath and kicks Bacteria's ass.
h0kuten wrote:Majin Vegeta Ssj2 + Super Perfect Cell vs Goku Ssj2 + Kid Gohan Ssj2 vs Broly LSSJ (M10) + Teen Gohan Ssj2 (M10)
Broly/Gohan bites the dust first. Then it's a battle to the bloody death between SSJ2 Majin Vegeta/SPC and SSJ2 Goku/SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Vegeta takes care of Gohan, while Goku takes care of SPC, and Vegeta and Goku duke it out alone. It could go either way.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:20 pm

h0kuten wrote:Majin Vegeta Ssj2 + Super Perfect Cell vs Goku Ssj2 + Kid Gohan Ssj2 vs Broly LSSJ (M10) + Teen Gohan Ssj2 (M10)
Team 3 gets annihilated fairly early on, so it basically boils down to Team 1 and Team 2. If Gohan quickly jumps to his senses, obliterates Super Perfect Cell, and lends his father a hand, Team 2 would come out on top. On the contrary, if the match up is reversed, and Vegeta faces off against Gohan, while Cell goes at it with Goku, the end result would most likely entail another dragged out battle between Vegeta and Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:33 pm

Yamcha (EOZ) vs Guldo

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Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:51 pm

h0kuten wrote:Majin Vegeta Ssj2 + Super Perfect Cell vs Goku Ssj2 + Kid Gohan Ssj2 vs Broly LSSJ (M10) + Teen Gohan Ssj2 (M10)
Assuming by "Kid Gohan" you mean Cell Games and "Teen Gohan" you mean early Buu Saga (just clarifying because CG Gohan is often called "teen" despite being 9-12, and Buu Saga Gohan is often called "adult" despite being 16-18).

Anyway, Goku and Vegeta are the major players here; the third team doesn't have anything to match them. Goku and Vegeta are pretty much deadlocked, and team 2's Gohan can take team 1's Cell, soooo team 2, I suppose.
h0kuten wrote:Yamcha (EOZ) vs Guldo
EoZ Yamcha is retired for 17 years, so Guldo. Now, Cell Games Yamcha can probably take Guldo, if he doesn't let himself get too cocky.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:01 pm

h0kuten wrote:Yamcha (EOZ) vs Guldo
Barring Guldo's ability to freeze time, this would be one of the few rare moments where Yamcha actually scores an exceptionally easy win.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:31 pm

h0kuten wrote:Majin Vegeta Ssj2 + Super Perfect Cell vs Goku Ssj2 + Kid Gohan Ssj2 vs Broly LSSJ (M10) + Teen Gohan Ssj2 (M10)
I have to side with Team 1. Broly's team is the weakest and would be done soon, then it would be a case for the better fighters. I give credit to Super Perfect Cell to edge out his small power deficit and defeat his opponent while Vegeta fights the other to a stand still. Cell then helps Vegeta finish the fight.
h0kuten wrote:Yamcha (EOZ) vs Guldo
Yamcha easily, the power gap is large enough that psychic power would be useless.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:00 pm

Imperfect Cell (pre-absorptions) vs Meta Cooler

Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) vs Meta Cooler army

Future Androids 17 and 18 vs. 2 Meta Coolers
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:49 pm

Can y'all stop saying Yamcha and Kuririn retired as if it's a definitive fact.

Yamcha just didn't enter the tournament, that's it! he never said he doesn't train any-more. He always lost in the quarter finals only know he had 3 super saiyans, a super Namek and an Android to compete with. Kuririn only entered hoping to place high enough to earn some money. Yamcha didn't need money. He has a lucrative sports career, (inb4 anime only, it was a Toriyama's creation) He probably has endorsements and shit. For many years he lived in Capsule Corp for probably free and before that he was self sufficient in the desert.

Kuririn was said to have stopped 'fighting' by the time we see him again in the Buu saga. We don't know how late he got into the 7 years before he stopped, it's not even the full 7. And nothing said he didn't work out/train, just wasn't fighting (implicitly 'with' other people)

For all we know Kuririn got way stronger for 6 years, and just maintained for 1 more after the cell games.

The gaps between Yamcha, Ten and Kuririn should be the same as they were at BoZ. Many fans of course thing Kuririn jumps way ahead because of the Guru power up but they could have caught back up depending on how many of those 7 years you think Kuririn took off.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:14 pm

The only people who Toriyama said that train during their off time is Piccolo, Goku & Vegeta. Only those three should be making gains, the rest should either stay as strong as they are or grow weaker.

Goku Ssj4 (Buu Saga) vs Gotenks Ssj Post-ROST

Gotenks Ssj4 (Buu Saga) vs Super Vegetto

Goku SsjG3 (RoSaT) vs Semi-Perfect Cell

Perfect Cell (vs Goku) + Goku MSsj vs Kid Gohan Ssj

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