"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ekrolo2]

There are reasons they could want to, but they simply don't exist in the story. It makes me seriously question their humanity, but the simple reason is the writers don't want them being relevant. So they simply don't want it. A good enough reason is they don't care about fighting nor their families enough to power up.
They don't need it to protect their families, Goku & Vegeta are already better to this than them, since they keep training, and they can merge with Fusion or the Potara if there is no way for Goku & Vegeta to defeat an enemy together, which is far more efficient than having SSGSS Gohan & SSGSS Gotenks around. And even if SSGSS Vegetto is unable to defeat said a enemy alone, Gohan & Gotenks won't be strong enough to make a difference. The only real reason the Saiyan Halflings need SSGSS is fan-service..

It would be nice if they just wrote them out of the show then. If they aren't going to serve any purpose just stop putting them back into stuff like they eventually did for Lunch. Not every arc needs to be a big reunion of the entire cast.

[dbzfan7]

I don't really think this kind of banter should be brought back and forth again. Honestly I kinda wonder if this question is brought up every episode whether or not the others can, should, or would use the super easy convenient ritual. Perhaps in time we'll get an answer within the series. Of course there's plenty of answers we can draw from such as lack of interest or care...especially the care part to quite frankly scary degrees.

[Araki]

Yeah, but it took a while, and Vegeta even asked if he would like to be replaced, saying he should stop complaining.

Vegeta said that because he wanted to be an ass.

That's beyond the point. The point was that it wasn't something Goku just relaxed and bam, God happened.

[dbzfan7]

They don't need it to protect their families, Goku & Vegeta are already better to this than them, since they keep training, and they can merge with Fusion or the Potara if there is no way for Goku & Vegeta to defeat an enemy together, which is far more efficient than having SSGSS Gohan & SSGSS Gotenks around. And even if SSGSS Vegetto is unable to defeat said a enemy alone, Gohan & Gotenks won't be strong enough to make a difference. The only real reason the Saiyan Halflings need SSGSS is fan-service.

I'll have to disagree, especially in light of F, but that's my opinion.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It would be nice if they just wrote them out of the show then. If they aren't going to serve any purpose just stop putting them back into stuff like they eventually did for Lunch. Not every arc needs to be a big reunion of the entire cast.

You don't need to have a huge power to serve a purpose to DB. Gohan got weaker in FnF, and yet he still served a purpose. Even weaklings like Kame-sennin & Jaco served their purpose.

I'll have to disagree, especially in light of F, but that's my opinion.

Why do you disagree?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I'm also of the opinion that we totally don't need to see Vegeta's god ritual. We already know how it goes.

I definitely don't want to see the whole ritual. Especially not after Super made it take half a episode. BUT, I would love to see a flashback of him in the form or whatever. Just something to get it animated, if for no other reason than to see people complain about Toei ruining the character by giving him Super Saiyan God's features (the larger eyes, the skinny build, etc).

[dbzfan7]

It would be nice if they just wrote them out of the show then. If they aren't going to serve any purpose just stop putting them back into stuff like they eventually did for Lunch. Not every arc needs to be a big reunion of the entire cast.

This may happen by the universe 6 arc thankfully. I'm actually pretty excited to see the new characters they hinted at being on par with Goku. A new Z group would be fascinating.

[ekrolo2]

It would be nice if they just wrote them out of the show then. If they aren't going to serve any purpose just stop putting them back into stuff like they eventually did for Lunch. Not every arc needs to be a big reunion of the entire cast.

This may happen by the universe 6 arc thankfully. I'm actually pretty excited to see the new characters they hinted at being on par with Goku. A new Z group would be fascinating.

So am I, a nice bone to throw the people who still want some of the regular crew would be to have them face threats without Goku or Vegeta there to help but sadly I think that won't happen despite the potential it presents.

[dbzfan7]

It would be nice if they just wrote them out of the show then. If they aren't going to serve any purpose just stop putting them back into stuff like they eventually did for Lunch. Not every arc needs to be a big reunion of the entire cast.

This may happen by the universe 6 arc thankfully. I'm actually pretty excited to see the new characters they hinted at being on par with Goku. A new Z group would be fascinating.

So am I, a nice bone to throw the people who still want some of the regular crew would be to have them face threats without Goku or Vegeta there to help but sadly I think that won't happen despite the potential it presents.

I don't really think now is too different from how GT handled characters.

In the mean time we always have some nice fan manga that actually do worthwhile things with those who's time have come. Piccolo is awesome in DBNA, the halflings had more to do in the other DBAF, and that other DB fan manga I forgot did have Oob finally get to step up. It's at least nice to see some stuff by fans.

[FortuneSSJ]

Just one more episode. Just one more and we finally have some new content.

[Neon Z]

There are reasons they could want to, but they simply don't exist in the story. It makes me seriously question their humanity, but the simple reason is the writers don't want them being relevant. So they simply don't want it. A good enough reason is they don't care about fighting nor their families enough to power up.

They don't need it to protect their families, Goku & Vegeta are already better to this than them, since they keep training, and they can merge with Fusion or the Potara if there is no way for Goku & Vegeta to defeat an enemy together, which is far more efficient than having SSGSS Gohan & SSGSS Gotenks around. And even if SSGSS Vegetto is unable to defeat said a enemy alone, Gohan & Gotenks won't be strong enough to make a difference. The only real reason the Saiyan Halflings need SSGSS is fan-service.

The point is exactly that Goku and Vegeta are interested in training, so they won't stay around Earth to protect it, since they'll be training elsewhere. Look at the situation in RoF, when their only hope is to somehow get Goku and Vegeta to notice what was going on. A Gohan SSJ God, even if weaker than Goku and Vegeta could still be somewhere around Freeza's level, and he'd be on Earth all the time, unlike his father.

Of course, this is all assuming that they won't explain that retaining the SSJ God power is something special. If they do that, the current lazy Gohan seems like he wouldn't bother.

[soulnova]

You know... this makes me wonder if Goku will leave all the responsibility to Uub and Pan so he can leave and train all he wants without worrying there's no one at the required level to protect Earth.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

There's nothing "doubtful" about it. Gohan doesn't have a set strength level. He can get as strong as the writers want him to get, he unlocked his potential like 3 times after all. They just don't want to use the character anymore.

Gohan only had his dormant powers drawn out to their limits once though, and not just to their limits, but far, far, faa~~aar beyond them. The writers can make him as strong as they want besides that, true, but how will they do that? They can either have him just train and get x times stronger without any reason or explanation, like GT did with Goku, or they can bring a reason for his huge increase in power, like a new form or a new training method. As far as we know, there is no way for Gohan to get extremely stronger than he is, except if he was to become a Super Saiyan God.

They have a walking plot device in the form of the Super Saiyan God ritual available AT ANY TIME. There's zero reason not to make him relevant besides not wanting to.

And we have confirmation that half-breed Saiyans can become Super Saiyan Gods...how? We don't.

[fadeddreams5]

And we have confirmation that half-breed Saiyans can become Super Saiyan Gods...how? We don't.

Well, their power functions to make a SSJG in the first place, so one would deduce...

[Sodhi]

Can anyone tell me, What does this say about episode 14 of super?

[Chuquita]

I definitely see that Gokû is in a "big pinch" (pink text on the right), but everything else is too tiny or complex.

It looks maybe Piccolo and Vegeta will help him? I'm not sure.

I do like how their main picture for Vegeta in these it's him in his casual wear from episode 2. XD

[irreality]

Do you have the original? can you get better pictures/scans if so?

[Sodhi]

Do you have the original? can you get better pictures/scans if so?

Does this look better?

[Herms]

Well, via DLC on Twitter we now have this news:

Witness it in the manga! An unknown super story development!!!
Speeding up the excitement of the TV anime even more!! Check out this completely new DB manga series!!
Toyotaro-sensei tears it up in V-Jump!! Charging on ahead of the TV anime, the "Champa arc" starts up!!
DB Super is in the midst of a successful run on TV!! And you'll be able to read "what's up ahead" for the TV show in the manga running in V-Jump!! What's the goal of the unknown entity "Champa"!?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The only thing disappointing about this news is that if it gets collected into a tankobon, we're missing an arc from the overall story. Though I suppose they could collect the three "F" promotional chapters he already did and just whip up one more to finish the battle. xD

Anyway, maybe we'll learn Girl!Whis' name soon.