Mr.Piccolo wrote:Going along the lines of Sebastian's post, I think if I was to follow the series with its original run had to the choice to end it at any period of time, it would be a tie between ending it with the 23rd tournament and the Cell games. The Goku in Z isn't the Goku in DB imo. Even though his morals and innocence is the same, they seem almost like two different people. I'm not sure if Toriyama wanted it that way but as mentioned before Z is geared more towards Vegeta and Gohan then Goku himself. I just think having Goku dying with a planet exploding would be very grim (then again that is how he dies in the Cell Game
).
-rick
As far as Son Goku in the
Z-era, as I like to call it, not being the same Son Goku in the
early era, I disagree. He may seem to be different, but it's not that he wasn't childish or innocent, it's just that (like you said) the Z-era's focus often tend to shift from one character or another since all the mayhem going on about (getting from point A to Point B, making sure Freeza doesn't discover the Dragon Ball's whereabouts, Distract Freeza, killed or be killed, etc.,). It doesn't help much when Goku arrives to the scene he
has to get serious. It's not about being childish or innoncent, granted if had the time he
would, but at this point of the series your'e not
fucking around. Your'e dealing with baddest mo' fo' of the face of the universe, do you think you have the time to be yourself Goku?
Son Goku:
No I have to save my friends!!!
*
saves the day*
Son Goku: Hey guys!!! LOLZ
*
gets all early Goku-ish*
Narrator:
Once again Son Goku saves the day. What other trifles will lie ahead of Goku & friends? However no matter what lies ahead of them they all treasure the earth & each other very much. No matter what the circumstance is they'll prevail & have the Dragon Balls by their side. These are our heroes....Our stories.
I hope that all helps. Also I hope you're not thinking I'm lashing at you
Mr. Piccolo/Rick, I was just trying to get that idea through. You have no idea, how many times, I've heard people talking about how Goku is vastly different from both eras. I just don't think that's true because provided reasons above & the fact that Goku has been one of the major reasons in my interest of the series & my favourite character.
Now as far as his deaths is involved, I mostly prefer his death at the Cell Games. The fact that he chose to die for the responsibility of his actions, his son's arrogance, & for the earth was very mature, noble, & touching of him. That final scene where his saying bye to the Z fighters & Son Gohan before his demise was...just a classic that I'm glad Toriyama had decided to continue the series just for that. His final goodbye to the crew at Kami's Place & his decision to stay dead was just so.. Goku-ish. The fact that he was all cheery even dead really helped to contribute to that. I honestly would've been content with the series ending there. I do agree that the ending at Namek would've been grim, but it also would've been a good closure to the series for reason mentioned before by other forum members.
