Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:03 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
SSJ Helldog wrote:How do you guys pronounce Xicor anyway? I'm sure we've been over this before, but hell if I can find it. I say "Zee-core."
I pronounce it "Zicksore." Although now that I think about it, that's totally wrong.

Oh well, I also pronounce Saiyan wrong so who cares?

I know that Xenomorph si pronounced as Zenomorph, but in Xicor, I think it'll be same as with Xizor from SW, She-zor. But maybe we should ask the author personally how he want's to pronounce it.....

She-cor then?? That name is indeed weird even pronounced with ordinary Z

Post by **Herms** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:36 pm

Going by the katakana spelling, it should be pronounced more or less to rhyme with "psycho", only with a "z" sound at the start and the "r" on the end (a direct romanization of the katakana spelling would be "Zaikou"). "Xicor" is kind of an odd way of romanizing the katakana name, but it's taken from the pre-existing name of this character from the AF rumors. Here's Daizenshuu EX's explanation of the name from the rumor guide:

You may even have come across "episode guides" for the series listing full episode titles and descriptions, which also drop hints at new characters. For example, one of the most-cited "new characters" in these episode titles goes by the name of "Xicor". It is unknown where this name came from, what it is based on, or may possibly be a reference from or to. It may be of some relation to "Xizor" from the Star Wars expanded universe, though the pronunciations may be quite different ("zai - kor" vs "shee - zor"). Absolutely no mention of the name "Xicor" appears throughout the history of alt.fan.dragonball (a popular DragonBall discussion newsgroup), which leads us to believe that the name possibly came after approximately 2002-2003 (when the newsgroup began to decline in activity). Indeed, searching through the internet and its various fansites / forums will reveal that the name "Xicor" in conjunction with DragonBall AF took off in popularity sometime around 2004.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:41 pm

Herms wrote:Going by the katakana spelling, it should be pronounced more or less to rhyme with "psycho", only with a "z" sound at the start and the "r" on the end (a direct romanization of the katakana spelling would be "Zaikou"). "Xicor" is kind of an odd way of romanizing the katakana name, but it's taken from the pre-existing name of this character from the AF rumors.

So in romanization it's Zaikoru? I'm learning to read in hiragana and katakan for two weeks now after I started with some of the Japanese basics in conversation

Post by **Herms** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:47 pm

MCDaveG wrote:So in romanization it's Zaikoru? I'm learning to read in hiragana and katakan for two weeks now after I started with some of the Japanese basics in conversation

The katakana spelling is ザイコー, so it'd be Zaikou or just Zaiko.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:59 pm

Herms wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:So in romanization it's Zaikoru? I'm learning to read in hiragana and katakan for two weeks now after I started with some of the Japanese basics in conversation
The katakana spelling is ザイコー, so it'd be Zaikou or just Zaiko.

ー means extended pronuntiation of the previous character right? Not a U...

So it should be pronounced as Zigh kor.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:09 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:
Herms wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:So in romanization it's Zaikoru? I'm learning to read in hiragana and katakan for two weeks now after I started with some of the Japanese basics in conversation
The katakana spelling is ザイコー, so it'd be Zaikou or just Zaiko.
ー means extended pronuntiation of the previous character right? Not a U...

So it should be pronounced as Zigh kor.

Yeah, but there's no "r" sound at the end of it.

If there was an intended "r" sound at the end of it from Toyble's perspective, it probably would be spelled something like ザイコーロ (za - i - koo [kou] - ro) or ザイコール (za - i - koo [kou] - ru). It's sorta kinda similar to how Freeza's name is フリーザ furiiza, which we don't typically end with the "er" (as in "Freezer").

Then again, the longer "aa" sound typically indicates an "er" sound in English, so I'm not sure what the long "oo" (or "ou") sound is intended to approximate in English, if anything other than a long syllable.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:19 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Then again, the longer "aa" sound typically indicates an "er" sound in English, so I'm not sure what the long "oo" (or "ou") sound is intended to approximate in English, if anything other than a long syllable.

It can be used to indicate an "or" sound. For instance, "corkscrew" is spelled in katakana as コークスクリュー/kookusukuryuu.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:30 pm

New pages up and zipped.

http://desirecampbell.com/dbaf

goku the krump dancer · Post by **goku the krump dancer** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:49 pm

Thanks I enjoyed that.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:19 pm

Ack, I had to download the .zip to get page 148. Ah well.

Man, I love Toyble's art...

EDIT: Oh God, it just hit me: with Kaiôshin dead, the gang won't be able to heal or teleport away!!

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:06 am

desirecampbell wrote:New pages up and zipped.

http://desirecampbell.com/dbaf

Thanks again for the great translations and scans that you are hosting on your website. Really appreciate it Campbell!

finnishjuoppo · Post by **finnishjuoppo** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:26 pm

I'm really exicted about the story Gohan is going to tell

I bet that we are going to see Gotenks in this saga; Goten and Trunks train as themselves and in the fight they fuse that would be so cool!

peterx · Post by **peterx** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:39 pm

Thanks for the new pages!

Any news on missing page 128?

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:53 pm

受かりました(⌒＿⌒;

2009年12月30日
東地区　“P”ブロック　30b

です。

あれ？夏と似てるな「ピ」→「P」に変わっただけっていうｗ

で、販売はおそらくDBZEROの下書きじゃないやつ…のみです。

毎回応募するときは次の巻を販売するつもりなんですけど
全然追いつかないです。

来年の夏はさすがに出せるかな…(⌒＿⌒;
すいません。

Translation, Mr. Scot?

Post by **Herms** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:16 am

JulieYBM wrote: Translation, Mr. Scot?

Scot?

Well anyway, Toyble will be at the Winter Comiket, which will be held on December 30th. It looks like all he’ll be selling is the finished version of DB Zero, and not the next AF volume. Each time he applies for Comiket, he always plans on having the next volume ready to sell, but he hasn’t been able to keep up at all. He’ll be able to have it out by next summer, though.

(Meanwhile, I continue to be mad about having been unable to attend a single Comiket during my time in Japan last year due to various schedule conflicts.)

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:26 am

Herms wrote:
JulieYBM wrote: Translation, Mr. Scot?
Scot?

It was suppose to be a Star Trek reference (I believe Scotty speaks Klingon)...why I thought this would be witty I haven't a clue.

Sorry, Mr. Schutz.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:05 am

I wounder when the next page will appear. My Predictions the next pages will about Xicor's origns and we will see the Z fighters going to Kami Lookout to train in the ROSAT.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:31 am

JulieYBM wrote:
Herms wrote:
JulieYBM wrote: Translation, Mr. Scot?
Scot?
It was suppose to be a Star Trek reference (I believe Scotty speaks Klingon)...why I thought this would be witty I haven't a clue.

Sorry, Mr. Schutz.

Yeah, in spoken word not, but when I'm breaking trough the hiragana and katakana I actually feel like reading Klingon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNTVzwjEyb4

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:47 am

SSJ Helldog wrote:How do you guys pronounce Xicor anyway?

"Broly 2.0".

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:38 pm

Herms wrote:Well anyway, Toyble will be at the Winter Comiket, which will be held on December 30th. It looks like he’ll just be selling DB Zero rough drafts again, which he apologies for.

He says "DBZEROの下書きじゃないやつ", which means "DB ZERO which isn't a rough draft".