Has the Dub or original made you hate a character?

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:45 pm

Ultimate DBZ wrote:See what I mean! You should get baned. Its called an oppinion. Do you know that means.

Dictionary.com wrote:o·pin·ion /əˈpɪnyən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pin-yuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

You looked up a dictionary and you still can't spell it right?

... Sorry folks, had to be said.

Anyway. King Kai: *while on hard drugs* "Yoo halvve learn'd well, Goku! Yoor Kaiyo-ken tekneeq thurpathes even my owen!"

... *shudders and beats Sean Schemmel with a stick*

Joji Yanami could be whimsical and funny, but he also made Kaio-sama more of a wise old sage, which is what his role is. King Kai is a blue catfish on cocaine.

Kaio-sama is the man.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:00 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote:Vollmer's interpretation of Bulma probably comes the closest due to the extreme exaggeration of the character's subtle flaws (not to mention fairly stupid dialogue in the initial seasons)

I'm horribly reminded of when she called Vegeta a "homeboy".

:Rolls Into Convulsions: I know you can't translate "Vegeta-Kun" in the dub without doing something and I know Bulma's mom calls Vegeta "trendy" in the original, but for the love of God, fucking homeboy. Wasn't that dated in 1999? Whatever. Horrible dated slang FTL.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:25 pm

Vekurotto wrote:I'm horribly reminded of when she called Vegeta a "homeboy". :Rolls Into Convulsions: I know you can't translate "Vegeta-Kun" in the dub without doing something and I know Bulma's mom calls Vegeta "trendy" in the original, but for the love of God, fucking homeboy. Wasn't that dated in 1999? Whatever. Horrible dated slang FTL.

Are moms usually on the cutting edge of slang?

KinoFourpaws · Post by **KinoFourpaws** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:32 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:I'm horribly reminded of when she called Vegeta a "homeboy". :Rolls Into Convulsions: I know you can't translate "Vegeta-Kun" in the dub without doing something and I know Bulma's mom calls Vegeta "trendy" in the original, but for the love of God, fucking homeboy. Wasn't that dated in 1999? Whatever. Horrible dated slang FTL.
Are moms usually on the cutting edge of slang?

Point.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:38 pm

Bulma's mother shouldn't have tried to use slang, it's completely out of character.

The point of using -kun was to show familiarity, the tone of her speech was to show friendliness/sexual attraction. If the intention was to convey the same feeling or information as the original script, Funi failed. If the point was to simply translated the word, they failed.

Funi failed, end of story.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:40 pm

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:44 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:So the answer to that question would be "no, and neither apparently are the wiggers who make up FUNimation's writing staff".

That's just too funny.

Yeah I guess I didn't make it clear enough that Bulma called Vegeta a homeboy and while there's slang in the sub with Bulma's mom when she called Vegeta "trendy", it's nowhere as ridiculous as calling somebody "homeboy".

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:58 pm

desirecampbell wrote:The point of using -kun was to show familiarity, the tone of her speech was to show friendliness/sexual attraction.

So... "beefcake"?

Yeah I guess I didn't make it clear enough that Bulma called Vegeta a homeboy

Aye, I thought Bulma's mom had said it.

Bulma's mother shouldn't have tried to use slang, it's completely out of character.

Bulma's mom doesn't have a character to be out of. She doesn't even have a name.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:10 pm

Rocketman wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:Bulma's mother shouldn't have tried to use slang, it's completely out of character.
Bulma's mom doesn't have a character to be out of. She doesn't even have a name.

She has a wild streak though, offering alcohol to a minor Goku for instance and innocently trying to attract other men, though maybe Mrs. and Dr. Briefs are swingers?

I keep talking about character sexuality today, damn.

I'm just glad I've given up on the Funimation Dub now.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:10 pm

Rocketman wrote:Bulma's mom doesn't have a character to be out of. She doesn't even have a name.

We don't know Kame Sennin's name either, but he's certainly a character.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:12 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Bulma's mom doesn't have a character to be out of. She doesn't even have a name.
We don't know Kame Sennin's name either, but he's certainly a character.

*cough* Muten *cough*

Bottom line slang is shit. Don't use it in entertainment.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:20 pm

Vekurotto wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Bulma's mom doesn't have a character to be out of. She doesn't even have a name.
We don't know Kame Sennin's name either, but he's certainly a character.
*cough* Muten *cough*

Bottom line slang is shit. Don't use it in entertainment.

But how will we appeal to the child-er-ren?

But how will we appeal to the child-er-ren? And I swear I remember a In da hood reference in the dub too, which would make my blood boil more than the Homeboy would.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:22 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:
desirecampbell wrote: We don't know Kame Sennin's name either, but he's certainly a character.
*cough* Muten *cough*

Bottom line slang is shit. Don't use it in entertainment.
But how will we appeal to the child-er-ren, and I swear I remember a In da hood reference in the dub too, which would make my blood boil more than the Homeboy would.

I believe you're thinking of the infamous narrator line "Krillin's in da house!"

Terrible.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:41 pm

Vekurotto wrote:*cough* Muten *cough*

Muten isn't a name. It's a description of the particular kind of "roushi" the character is.

...okay, didn't come out well, but you know what I mean. He's "the Muten-roushi", not "Muten the roushi".

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:57 pm

You know what?
... I think I'd rather have just had someone read DBZ to me before seeing the dub.
(... that paragraph sounds way too bitter! I can't be bitter when Tori-bot posts in the same thread. ^_^)

... AH! Kino Sigginess! *feels unworthy, even though it's just a quote of me quoting toonami quoting Funimation paraphrasing DBZ*

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:41 pm

Adamant wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:*cough* Muten *cough*
Muten isn't a name. It's a description of the particular kind of "roushi" the character is.

Oh

Leaves before he embarrasses himself any farther

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:20 am

I really don't like Nozawa's Bardock. The Son voice works for the Son family, and for Tullece since his whole point is "evil Goku," but for Bardock, not so much. I think Sonny Strait really nailed that one.

In fact, Strait was one of the best, most underappreciated VAs FUNi has, I think. Even when the actual dialogue sucks, he always delivers it well.

Not a fan of Norio Wakamoto's Cell. When I first watched the original version, I was dumbstruck. He basically made Cell sound like an evil businessman IMO, and from what I've read, he also voiced Mr. Sinister in the Japanese dub of the X-Men 90's cartoon, and I can only cringe at the thought of another ruined villain. Dameon Clarke knocked Cell out of the park, especially when the Cell Games were going and afterwards.

As for the English dub, I've "gotten used" to most of the character voices, and the only ones that really grate are some of the minor characters. Ox King, Umigame, etc.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:30 am

Rocketman wrote:Bulma's mom doesn't have a character to be out of. She doesn't even have a name.

Mama...>_>?

And I think I remember her calling Vegeta handsome, or was that the sub?

But back to my main point, a few pages back some one mentioned that Goku doesn't have the same cult following in America as he did in Japan.

True.

In fact he is actually hated by most fans because of the dub (madefromgoats xD). But Schemmel doesn't do that bad of a job of making Goku sound like an idiot ("popcorn people" anyone) as opposed to the naiveness that Japan loves so much. Funimation must have mistaken naivety for idiocy.

Also. McNeil's Piccolo is closer to the original that Sabat IMO. I just finished watching Season 2 and some scenes just did not seem to work with Sabat where as McNeil nailed the calm yet demonic tone that Piccolo had in the original. The script didn't help at all either. Piccolo wasn't meant to sound gruff, it completely contrasts his character. To be on-topic, Sabat made me hate the character that McNeil made me love.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:58 am

Thanos6 wrote: In fact, Strait was one of the best, most underappreciated VAs FUNi has, I think. Even when the actual dialogue sucks, he always delivers it well.

A lot of folks like his Major Hughes. Heck, a lot of DBZ cast members get more love for what they do on FMA. Remember buddies of mine's jaws dropped when they found out Armstrong was done by guy who did Vegeta.

On topic, no hating a character, but saw some friends of mine get shocked after seeing the Behind the Screams feature. One guy said he could no longer picture Ginyu without picturing an old man, and others said, Duncan Brannan scared them when they saw him doing Babidi live.

JohnnyBoy_Z · Post by **JohnnyBoy_Z** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:09 am

I despised Furiza's voice in FUNi's dub. And as a result, his ranking as a villain went down a few notches for me. It doesn't even matter if I don't watch the dub anymore. Everytime he talks, I keep hearing and thinking about that stupid Granny voice.

Kanzenshuu

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