Saiyan Civil War and Goku's Mother

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:47 pm

Wojak wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Wojak wrote:Another thing, Trunks said it would be contagious so Yamchu and Chi-Chi should take the medicine too, right?

What about Gohan and Piccolo that trained with him in three years, beating the crap out of eachother, mixing eachother's blood from their wounds?
Let's say Piccolo was a Namek, and that it wouldn't count, but Gohan was a Saiyan and a Human, so there is no way he would have not have gotten the virus too.
It could not be contagious until the virus stops being dormant.
That's not right either.
Example: HIV is the dormant version of the AIDS virus.
HIV is a contagious virus.
That's why they make a HIV-test before you donate blood.

True, most (if not all) Real World Earth viruses are contagious 24/7. But fiction has already produced multiple viruses that are only contagious during certain stages of their existance, or whos means of infection changes over the stages of their lives. Like the T-Virus shifting from air born to bodily fluid contact only.

So it's not hard to imagine that this virus, especially if you assume it to be an alien (most likely Yardratian) virus then it could simply burrow itself into the host and be nearly non-transmitable. Maybe it starts off as an STD and then goes air born?

Chi-Chi did take some of the medicine so even if he gave it to her in the process of making Goten she'd be good. XD

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:18 pm

Dayspring wrote:In the daizenshuu chronology, there are two very random notes in the last years of the Saiyan Empire's existence:

735: -Relations between the Saiyans and Freeza begin breaking down.
-Civil War breaks out on Planet Vegeta between the Saiyans.

Huh. I don't have my Daizenshû with me (it's the seventh one, right?), so I can't check, but... Does somebody have a scan of that page?

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:25 pm

Ugh...Another AIDS discussion. Why does this forum bring up a link between Dragonball and AIDS?

Post by **Herms** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:33 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
Dayspring wrote:In the daizenshuu chronology, there are two very random notes in the last years of the Saiyan Empire's existence:

735: -Relations between the Saiyans and Freeza begin breaking down.
-Civil War breaks out on Planet Vegeta between the Saiyans.
Huh. I don't have my Daizenshû with me (it's the seventh one, right?), so I can't check, but... Does somebody have a scan of that page?

I don't have a scanner, but the sentence goes like this: 惑星ベジータにおいて、サイヤ人同士の内乱が多発。

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:39 pm

Thanks!

Well, it sounds quite a bit less drastic than a "civil war" already...
I mean... "Nairan" could mean "civil war," technically... but here, with "tahatsu"? More like "internal disturbances," in my opinion...

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:42 pm

Herms wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:
Dayspring wrote:In the daizenshuu chronology, there are two very random notes in the last years of the Saiyan Empire's existence:

735: -Relations between the Saiyans and Freeza begin breaking down.
-Civil War breaks out on Planet Vegeta between the Saiyans.
Huh. I don't have my Daizenshû with me (it's the seventh one, right?), so I can't check, but... Does somebody have a scan of that page?
I don't have a scanner, but the sentence goes like this: 惑星ベジータにおいて、サイヤ人同士の内乱が多発。

"wakusei beji^ta nioite , saiya hitodoushi no nairan ga tahatsu."

That's what romaji.org got for me. Is that right?

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:48 pm

'Should be "Saiyajin."

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:22 pm

How does 内戦 differ from 内乱?

-Corey

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:24 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:How does 内戦 differ from 内乱?

The second bunch of squiggly lines look different.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:32 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:How does 内戦 differ from 内乱?
The second bunch of squiggly lines look different.

What would I do without you

-Corey

Post by **Herms** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:45 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:How does 内戦 differ from 内乱?

-Corey

内戦 seems to have somewhat stronger connotations than 内乱.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:09 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:Thanks!

Well, it sounds quite a bit less drastic than a "civil war" already...
I mean... "Nairan" could mean "civil war," technically... but here, with "tahatsu"? More like "internal disturbances," in my opinion...

I seem to remember nairan being translated as "civil war" in Fullmetal Alchemist, I think. Wasn't it the "Ishvalan Civil War"? It's been so long since I've followed that series...

Tatsunoboshi Horoko · Post by **Tatsunoboshi Horoko** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:30 pm

I thought it was the Ishvalan Rebellion (Ishbal Rebellion.) It's been a while since I watched my FMA DVDs or read any volume of the Viz manga.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:37 pm

Hmm, you're right, I think that's what the FUNimation had called it. I thought I remembered somebody calling it a "civil war." Bah, anyway, it was nairan in Japanese. I had never heard the word before, so I had to look it up when I used to read the manga.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:39 am

Note: civil war is any large scale in-fighting. Rebellions are merely revolutions that failed to take place because the rebellion lost. In-fighting being caused by relations with Freeza breaking down kind of implies that these were politcal in nature.