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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:18 am

Assigning the starters to 1-3, 4-6 & 7-9 based on the draw of the last digit of their TID was a mistake. They handicapped themselves without doing the proper research. The highest TID you can get is 65535, so they had 60% chance for Chikorita and 40% for Cyndaquil. Totodile was never an option...
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:37 am

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Assigning the starters to 1-3, 4-6 & 7-9 based on the draw of the last digit of their TID was a mistake. They handicapped themselves without doing the proper research. The highest TID you can get is 65535, so they had 60% chance for Chikorita and 40% for Cyndaquil. Totodile was never an option...
Yeah, RNG's are usually the best way to go.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:45 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Assigning the starters to 1-3, 4-6 & 7-9 based on the draw of the last digit of their TID was a mistake. They handicapped themselves without doing the proper research. The highest TID you can get is 65535, so they had 60% chance for Chikorita and 40% for Cyndaquil. Totodile was never an option...
...unless they DID proper research and still did it on purpose. Considering it's TFS we're dealing with here...

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Post by Puto » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:26 pm

Max TID being 65535 doesn't mean you can't get 10009 or anything like it.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:46 pm

I had a terrible, terrible bout with stupidity there, and apparently so did everyone else who didn't correct me sooner. The odds were still in Chikorita and Cyndaquil's favor, but my percentages are way off now.
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:44 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I had a terrible, terrible bout with stupidity there, and apparently so did everyone else who didn't correct me sooner. The odds were still in Chikorita and Cyndaquil's favor, but my percentages are way off now.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Noah » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:00 pm

I don't get it, what are you guys talking about is this a % of receiving a shiny starter in the beginning of the game?
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:38 am

Noah wrote:I don't get it, what are you guys talking about is this a % of receiving a shiny starter in the beginning of the game?
It's the RNG system. Your ID and Secret ID determine a lot of factors in Gen 4 onward including shiny Pokemon. Your IDs were one of the requirements needed to perform RNG abuse back in Gen 4 and Gen 5 games.

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Post by Vegard Aune » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:19 am

Noah wrote:I don't get it, what are you guys talking about is this a % of receiving a shiny starter in the beginning of the game?
They simply chose their starter based off the last digit in their randomly generated Trainer ID number. If it was 1-3, they had to pick Chikorita. 4-6, Cyndaquil. 7-9, Totodile. They said nothing about what would happen if it was 0, but I guess that would make them free to choose?

For the record, the odds of the starter being shiny is roughly 1 in 8000. It would be nothing short of amazing if that had happened. They have yet to encounter a single shiny in either run (though they thought they'd run into a shiny Sentret in the VS Mewtwo stream... but they were wrong.)

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Post by Alruneia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:52 am

Alright, I guess we're doing some math now?
First, getting a shiny is a 1/8192 chance, if memory serves. AKA 2^-13. That's about 0.0122 %. This is for a Pokémon you get "randomly", though, such as in a random encounter or when choosing your starter. Mechanics for Shiny Pokémon in Gen 2 make it possible to breed shinies with a 1/64 chance, though, according to Bulbapedia.
The starter chance is pretty much a third each. Out of 65536 choices (if 00000 is available), Chikorita gets 19,662, Cyndaquil gets 19,661 and Totodile gets 19,659. It leaves 6554 numbers with 0 as the last digit. It's (rounded to four decimal points) 30.0018 % for Chikorita, 30.0003 % for Cyndaquil and 29.9973 % for Totodile. The final 10,0006 % are last digit 0. We can easily round this off to 30 %, 30 %, 30 % and 10 %. So yeah, no problem there.
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Noah wrote:I don't get it, what are you guys talking about is this a % of receiving a shiny starter in the beginning of the game?
No one was discussing shiny starters until after you brought it up.
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Post by FoolsGil » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:44 am

Only with TeamFourStar can you get a Pokemon math discussion on a DBZ site. :lol:

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FoolsGil wrote:Only with TeamFourStar can you get a Pokemon math discussion on a DBZ site. :lol:
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Tbf, Sentret sprite's in Gen 3 and in Gen 4 (minus HGSS) is incredibly misleading.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Vegard Aune » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:23 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:Tbf, Sentret sprite's in Gen 3 and in Gen 4 (minus HGSS) is incredibly misleading.
It is. So is Dratini's, for that matter. I remember playing Fire Red myself and actually being all "HOLY CARDGAMES ON MOTORCYCLES, IS THAT A SHINY?!" for a second when I got one.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

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BlazingBarrrager wrote:It's the RNG system. Your ID and Secret ID determine a lot of factors in Gen 4 onward including shiny Pokemon. Your IDs were one of the requirements needed to perform RNG abuse back in Gen 4 and Gen 5 games.
Wow! I never knew about that, like which things more?
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:23 am

Noah wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:It's the RNG system. Your ID and Secret ID determine a lot of factors in Gen 4 onward including shiny Pokemon. Your IDs were one of the requirements needed to perform RNG abuse back in Gen 4 and Gen 5 games.
Wow! I never knew about that, like which things more?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by simtek34 » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:27 pm

Still 33%. And Broly movie comes in September-December. Kaiser said.

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Post by KaiserNeko » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:08 pm

It's at 58%, though. And expect Broly for Youmacon most likely. Or Christmas. Either one.
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Post by Alruneia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:18 am

KaiserNeko wrote:It's at 58%, though. And expect Broly for Youmacon most likely. Or Christmas. Either one.
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