Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

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Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by goodguy777 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:11 pm

Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth? Some say yes and some say no. Was it ever hinted in some databooks or any reliable source?
It's a gag manga! It never was nor was it meant to be scientifically sound or accurate.

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:14 pm

goodguy777 wrote:Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth? Some say yes and some say no. Was it ever hinted in some databooks or any reliable source?
No he did not. The visual of his speeding around the Earth is just that: a visual. It's not meant to imply he left the atmosphere or whathaveyou.
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Post by goodguy777 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:37 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
goodguy777 wrote:Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth? Some say yes and some say no. Was it ever hinted in some databooks or any reliable source?
No he did not. The visual of his speeding around the Earth is just that: a visual. It's not meant to imply he left the atmosphere or whathaveyou.
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Pay attention to the thing or creature that I encircled with color blue. Who do you think is that guy?
It's a gag manga! It never was nor was it meant to be scientifically sound or accurate.

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:52 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:
goodguy777 wrote:Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth? Some say yes and some say no. Was it ever hinted in some databooks or any reliable source?
No he did not. The visual of his speeding around the Earth is just that: a visual. It's not meant to imply he left the atmosphere or whathaveyou.
Pay attention to the thing or creature that I encircled with color blue. Who do you think is that guy?
A gag character.
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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by goodguy777 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:58 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
A gag character.
It's simple but clear, is there any evidence that panel was gag scene like looney toons?
It's a gag manga! It never was nor was it meant to be scientifically sound or accurate.

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:08 pm

goodguy777 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:
A gag character.
It's simple but clear, is there any evidence that panel was gag scene like looney toons?
Pretty much every Gotenks panel is a gag.
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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by VegettoEX » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:13 pm

goodguy777 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:
A gag character.
It's simple but clear, is there any evidence that panel was gag scene like looney toons?
You're going to get yourself to a point where you're self-selecting, "OK, this panel is canonical to scientific accuracy in the Dragon World, but this panel is not." Not only that, but you'll be doing so in a section of the series where the entire point was to reintegrate the slapstick style and tongue-in-cheek statements from the most earliest parts of the series, all thrown in together with the relative-seriousness of immediately-preceding parts.

That's not going to work, and no-one will be able to carry out discussions with you.
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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by goodguy777 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:19 pm

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goodguy777 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:
A gag character.
It's simple but clear, is there any evidence that panel was gag scene like looney toons?
You're going to get yourself to a point where you're self-selecting, "OK, this panel is canonical to scientific accuracy in the Dragon World, but this panel is not." Not only that, but you'll be doing so in a section of the series where the entire point was to reintegrate the slapstick style and tongue-in-cheek statements from the most earliest parts of the series, all thrown in together with the relative-seriousness of immediately-preceding parts.

That's not going to work, and no-one will be able to carry out discussions with you.
OK, I don't get it, I only answered simple and serious but clear based on the manga. I'm only asking who was the character that I encircled. Is that insulting?
It's a gag manga! It never was nor was it meant to be scientifically sound or accurate.

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by Drayenko » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:48 pm

Well, it is...we can't know for sure, because we can't see his/her face 8) , but we can assume it is Gotenks! :lol:

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by Kaboom » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:18 pm

goodguy777 wrote:Pay attention to the thing or creature that I encircled with color blue. Who do you think is that guy?
Superman. :P
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:19 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Superman. :P
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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by Maphisto86 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:18 pm

Ugh! :x

I take the entire Dragonball series with a grain of salt . . . special salt that eats away at logic just as well as it does ice on your driveway. :P

If you really need a "logical" "in-universe" explanation of how some characters can enter space and live when they normally wouldn't (i.e. The Bardock special) it's either:
A ) They don't actually leave the breathable atmosphere of the planet. Yes I know air is thinner at higher altitudes but I have another thing called "Suspension of Disbelief". Handy tool that "SoD" ; ).

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B ) Warriors who know how to master ki can make a airtight shield to act as a temporary, artifical atmosphere for a limited amount of time. *shrug*

Overall though I wouldn't take it literally. All the panel is saying is that Gotenks was flying super fast, several times around the globe.

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by desirecampbell » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:55 pm

1. The panel showing Gotenks' supposed travel path around the planet cannot be to scale - the width of his 'trail' is not several hundred kilometres wide (as is shown in the image) thus we cannot be certain the distance of it from the planet is also representative.

2. The land masses shown on the globe there do not match up with the continents given in official maps (kanzentai). Again, the panel cannot be taken as representative.

3. Even if we could prove Gotenks did in fact leave earth's lower atmosphere, it means nothing.

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by The Time Traveller » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:10 pm

Maybe he did it so fast he didn't need to breath.

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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by goodguy777 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:07 am

The scan clearly shows that Gotenks is outside the planet. Atmosphere is inside the planet not outside.
It's a gag manga! It never was nor was it meant to be scientifically sound or accurate.

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Post by Kendamu » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:29 am

goodguy777 wrote:The scan clearly shows that Gotenks is outside the planet. Atmosphere is inside the planet not outside.
Again... gag character. Same as that one human police officer character from a Jump comic that Freeza couldn't kill in some random one-off manga.

Heck, Dragon World's Earth's continents aren't even shaped like that and what the continents looked like had been established by then. So, obviously, it's not to scale or is it a "realistic" representation.

Also, why is it so important if Gotenks can breathe in space? Do you know him? Is he going to write your name on the surface of the moon for you? Is there a cash prize involved in this knowledge? Or is it some personal argument with a friend that you're gathering information for? I'd really like to know why it matters so much.
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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by Godo » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:50 am

Your question was:
goodguy777 wrote:Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth? Some say yes and some say no. Was it ever hinted in some databooks or any reliable source?
And your answer is:
goodguy777 wrote:The scan clearly shows that Gotenks is outside the planet. Atmosphere is inside the planet not outside.
Why the hell do you make a thread if you don't want to discuss the matter, or to start with, having an open mind to the possibility of that not being the case?

My theory is, yes, he moved so fast that he could hold his breath. Remember, he had the time to take a nap too until Piccolo arrived. 8)

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Post by goodguy777 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:01 am

Kendamu wrote:
goodguy777 wrote:The scan clearly shows that Gotenks is outside the planet. Atmosphere is inside the planet not outside.
Again... gag character. Same as that one human police officer character from a Jump comic that Freeza couldn't kill in some random one-off manga.
That was canon chapter manga of dragon ball, not random one-off manga.
Kendamu wrote:Heck, Dragon World's Earth's continents aren't even shaped like that and what the continents looked like had been established by then. So, obviously, it's not to scale or is it a "realistic" representation.
It's not about the continent, what I'm trying to say is the scan clearly shows Gotenks was outside the planet.
Kendamu wrote:Also, why is it so important if Gotenks can breathe in space? Do you know him? Is he going to write your name on the surface of the moon for you? Is there a cash prize involved in this knowledge? Or is it some personal argument with a friend that you're gathering information for? I'd really like to know why it matters so much.
Some say yes and some say no, despite the fact that the scan clearly shows Gotenks was outside the planet.
It's a gag manga! It never was nor was it meant to be scientifically sound or accurate.

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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:38 am

Goodguy, you must be drowned in the lake of boredom aren't you?
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Re: Did SSJ Gotenks fly outside the Planet Earth?

Post by desirecampbell » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:39 am

Fine. I could just quote myself again to prove that there's no way to 'prove' that Gotenks left the planet's atmosphere, but you clearly aren't reading it anyway.

So let's move on: fine, Gotenks left the atmosphere. So what? What is your point?

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