Who is more powerful?

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Who is more powerful?

Post by Lucas Abner » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:09 pm

Among Hatchyack, Broly, who is more powerful?

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:11 pm

Broly IMO

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Post by Kaboom » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:12 pm

Didn't the heroes actually specifically note in the OVA that Hatchyak was stronger than Broly?
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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Herms » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:30 pm

Kaboom wrote:Didn't the heroes actually specifically note in the OVA that Hatchyak was stronger than Broly?
I think they say that he "may be" stronger.
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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Savage68 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:58 pm

Yeah, but when Goku says that he "may" be more powerful than Broly, I think that tips the odds more in Hatchyack's favor.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Darkprince410 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:09 am

Herms wrote:
Kaboom wrote:Didn't the heroes actually specifically note in the OVA that Hatchyak was stronger than Broly?
I think they say that he "may be" stronger.
I believe Goku's exact dialogue was, "His power might be even greater than Burorii's, but..." and then puts the 15 second charging time on his blasts to the test.

So basically it comes down to Goku believing that he might be stronger than Burorii, but that the difference wasn't that major that it was clear who the stronger was.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by mysticboy » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:14 pm

Hatchyack. Goku said it himself.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by mrzisawesome » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:29 pm

In Dangerous Duo! Super Warriors cannot Rest! Broly got a zenkai and his KI increased. Broly is stronger then, but maybe Hatchyak was stronger in the first Broly movie(Goku said "may").

Broly destroyed a Galaxy in his restricted form, as was claimed as a universal threat. Hackyak was only claimed as a universal threat, though he could destroy a Galaxy for sure.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Darkprince410 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:51 pm

mrzisawesome wrote: Broly destroyed a Galaxy in his restricted form, as was claimed as a universal threat. Hackyak was only claimed as a universal threat, though he could destroy a Galaxy for sure.
He never actually destroyed the Southern Galaxy in one attack though, if that's what you're suggesting. The beginning of movie 8 is basically a time lapse of the destruction Burorii inflicted across the galaxy throughout the majority of his life, as we see flashbacks of him going around blowing up planets as a child and as a teenager.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Savage68 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:00 pm

mrzisawesome wrote:In Dangerous Duo! Super Warriors cannot Rest! Broly got a zenkai and his KI increased.
How do figure this to be true? Super Saiyans never receive zenkais, and the criteria for acquiring one in the first place was lost on Broly. He didn't heal at an accelerated rate. Not only that, but he didn't even really heal properly at all. He was only trapped in a pool of ice for ~7 years, following his defeat at the hands of Goku. He seemed weaker, if nothing else, in Movie 10. Despite the Toriyama notation that dictates otherwise.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:20 am

I think Goku's words were along the lines of Hatchiyack being 10x stronger than Broly.
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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Darkprince410 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:56 am

Nah, that's an old and purely fictitious rumor. The exact wording of Goku's dialogue is what I mentioned above, which suggests that though he might be stronger than Burorii's, the difference between them isn't great enough to where he could say that with any real confidence.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by mrzisawesome » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:28 am

Darkprince410 wrote:
mrzisawesome wrote: Broly destroyed a Galaxy in his restricted form, as was claimed as a universal threat. Hackyak was only claimed as a universal threat, though he could destroy a Galaxy for sure.
He never actually destroyed the Southern Galaxy in one attack though, if that's what you're suggesting. The beginning of movie 8 is basically a time lapse of the destruction Burorii inflicted across the galaxy throughout the majority of his life, as we see flashbacks of him going around blowing up planets as a child and as a teenager.
So you think Kaio Sama just decided to notice that NOW?
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mrzisawesome wrote:In Dangerous Duo! Super Warriors cannot Rest! Broly got a zenkai and his KI increased.
How do figure this to be true? Super Saiyans never receive zenkais, and the criteria for acquiring one in the first place was lost on Broly. He didn't heal at an accelerated rate. Not only that, but he didn't even really heal properly at all. He was only trapped in a pool of ice for ~7 years, following his defeat at the hands of Goku. He seemed weaker, if nothing else, in Movie 10. Despite the Toriyama notation that dictates otherwise.
Don't they? I'm pretty sure only Chou Gohan didn't get a Zenkai.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Savage68 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:55 pm

mrzisawesome wrote:Don't they? I'm pretty sure only Chou Gohan didn't get a Zenkai.
Isn't that what I was saying...? :?

Now that I re-read it, I missed the "only" part of your post. Super Perfect Cell is the closest example of a Super Saiyan receiving a near-death power-up.
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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Rory » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:05 pm

Darkprince410 wrote:Burorii
Burorii...really?

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:06 pm

Rory wrote:
Darkprince410 wrote:Burorii
Burorii...really?
You're going to complain about this? Really...?
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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Miracles » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:52 pm

Who is Hatchyak [sp]?

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by Eddie » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:55 pm

He's a villain from Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans.

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:59 pm

"Hatchihyakku" is the final villain in the Famicom game + "Official Visual Guide / OVA" + Playdia games all named (with minor variations) Saiya-jin Zetsumetsu Keikaku ("The Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans").

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Re: Who is more powerful?

Post by sj1million » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:05 pm

Lucas Abner wrote:who is more powerful?
Well, the OVA is based on the DBZ Playdia game and what's worth mentioning is that both Cell and Broli makes an appearance in the game. We know which Cell this is, because he has only his Super Perfect form. Broli on the other hand, has three forms: Base, Super Saiyan, and his legnedary or powered up form.


In movie 8, Goku confirmed that Broli's Super Saiyan IS more powerful than all of theirs when he discovered Broli's ki signature. In the night scene, Goku realizes the exact same ki when Broli decides to power up during their confrontation. Paragus soon shows up and tells Broli to not raise his ki any further, revealing more depth to the suppressed Super Saiyan Broli that was already stated to be more powerful than everyone else.

So to answer your question, Hatchiyack is only slightly more powerful than movie 8 Super Saiyan Broli.

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