Is this DVD package legitimate?

[Piccolo-San]

I've been meaning to pick up the DVD set of the Frieza saga for years now... But FUNimation, for some unknown reason, has never released it as a DVD box set. They've only released the Frieza saga through individual discs (which is extremely bizarre considering they have released every other saga in the series as a box set). So anyhow, much to my delight, I just came across this DVD box set on Ebay. I was hoping you guys could help me determine whether or not it would be a safe and worthwhile purchase: [link removed by administrator]

Edit: I forgot to mention that this DVD set is not an official release, but rather, is an import. That's why I am a little concerned about its quality.

[Chaos Saiyajin]

It's probably a bootleg. However, it does look an awful lot like how FUNi would package a DVD set way back in 1999.

[Piccolo-San]

It's probably a bootleg. However, it does look an awful lot like how FUNi would package a DVD set way back in 1999.

But do you think the bootlegs are terrible quality? I realize that generally, bootlegs aren't as good as their true counterparts. However, I don't need perfect quality - I'm just looking for a cheap way to own the episodes on DVD. But I guess my real concern here is the possibility that the bootlegs might not play on my DVD player... What do you think?

[Jord]

Hmmm English dub only on the Frieza/Farlic DVD's?

Bootleg'd

[Chaos Saiyajin]

But do you think the bootlegs are terrible quality? I realize that generally, bootlegs aren't as good as their true counterparts. However, I don't need perfect quality - I'm just looking for a cheap way to own the episodes on DVD. But I guess my real concern here is the possibility that the bootlegs might not play on my DVD player... What do you think?

You can never tell quality with bootlegs...some could be extremly good, while others remind you that you've just wasted your money. I guess you'll just have to wait until you get them to see if they play in your DVD player. I don't see why they wouldn't... Unless you've got a really old DVD player or something...

[VegettoEX]

However, I don't need perfect quality - I'm just looking for a cheap way to own the episodes on DVD.

You're barking up the wrong god damn tree, there, buddy.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Hmmm English dub only on the Freeza/Farlic DVD's?

Bootleg'd

There's also the very realistic possibility that they're the R4's from Australia, which were dub only for a good while. Since the link was removed though, I can't say.

-Corey

[desirecampbell]

However, I don't need perfect quality - I'm just looking for a cheap way to own the episodes on DVD.

You're barking up the wrong god damn tree, there, buddy.

Seriously, the last thing you want to do is buy bootleg dvdz - you can't be sure of the quality, it'll never be as good as official merchandice, and (most importantly) you're payin someone tfor illegal merchandice. Do not let them profit from you!

[Piccolo-San]

However, I don't need perfect quality - I'm just looking for a cheap way to own the episodes on DVD.

You're barking up the wrong god damn tree, there, buddy.

I'm not sure what this comment implies... Are you suggesting that it would be a mistake to purchase a bootleg, or is your hostility directed toward my having posted the link? If the latter is the case, I don't understand why this would present a problem. What's with the extreme censorship?

[Xyex]

However, I don't need perfect quality - I'm just looking for a cheap way to own the episodes on DVD.

You're barking up the wrong god damn tree, there, buddy.

I'm not sure what this comment implies... Are you suggesting that it would be a mistake to purchase a bootleg, or is your hostility directed toward my having posted the link? If the latter is the case, I don't understand why this would present a problem. What's with the extreme censorship?

To put it simply, Illegal = Bad. Either await the offical release of the Box Set or buy the individuals and make your own.

[lost in thought]

I'm not sure what this comment implies... Are you suggesting that it would be a mistake to purchase a bootleg, or is your hostility directed toward my having posted the link? If the latter is the case, I don't understand why this would present a problem. What's with the extreme censorship?

There are a multitude of reasons that can be derived from what Mike/VegettoEX said.

And to help, I'll list them:

1. 1.) Bootlegs are bad, and illegal. (To echo what Xyex, and Desire said, in limited content.)
   
   2.) Bootlegs are a rip off 95% of the time, so you buy them at your own risk.
   
   3.) Daizenshuu EX, and it's community do not support, nor advise the purchase, or sale of bootlegs.

Now as far as extreme censorship goes, well it's VegettoEX's forum, his right. And we as users abide by it, and are better for it.

[Piccolo-San]

I suppose our positions are on opposing ends of the ethical spectrum. The way I see it, FUNimation is not providing me with the product I desire (and even if they did, they would charge me an outrageous amount of money for it), so they've left me with no other choice but to purchase the product elsewhere.

[VegettoEX]

I suppose our positions are on opposing ends of the ethical spectrum. The way I see it, FUNimation is not providing me with the product I desire (and even if they did, they would charge me an outrageous amount of money for it), so they've left me with no other choice but to purchase the product elsewhere.

No, you've personally *chosen* to be a bootlegger. You have your options... you just don't *want* to pay for them. There's absolutely nothing inherently preventing you from legally obtaining the material that has been licensed for release. You just don't want to.

Boo-fuckin'-hoo.

[lost in thought]

I agree with Mike/VegettoEX. Currently FUNimation releases good quality products, that are made better by the inclusion of Steven J. Simmons' subtitles, the Japanese audio, and even the Spanish audio (on UU discs.) The only thing that you would get from importing is better picture quality, but then you are sacrificing some of the best subs you might ever find for an inhouse production like DBZ.
Not to mention bootlegs while having subtitles, only have shitty ones.

In the end, you should be fucking kissing Gen Fukanuga's toes. Because it isn't often that a dubber will include two EXTRA audio tracks, and subtitles, on their products, and still sell it at the same damn price. If you look at ANY other dubbed release (Trigun comes to mind,) that has done this, you will note that those discs sell between $20.00 and $25.00, while FUNi releases at $14.00, which is not only consumer friendly, but they are actually taking profit loss as a result of it. (marginal, but it's there.)

[Piccolo-San]

No, you've personally *chosen* to be a bootlegger. You have your options... you just don't *want* to pay for them. There's absolutely nothing inherently preventing you from legally obtaining the material that has been licensed for release. You just don't want to.

Boo-fuckin'-hoo.

Not true. As I've already mentioned, Funimation has released every DBZ saga on DVD as a boxed set, except for the Frieza saga - which just happens to be the one I want... If they suddenly came to their senses and released it, then I would probably buy from them. It would be more expensive, but the quality would obviously not be an issue. Unfortunately, the fact remains they have not made this product available. So, I'm left with two options: 1) Buy 10 individual discs from FUNimation with no pretty little box set, or 2) Buy a bootleg boxed set for a reasonable price. The choice seems clear to me.

[lost in thought]

Not true. As I've already mentioned, Funimation has released every DBZ saga on DVD as a boxed set, except for the Freeza saga - which just happens to be the one I want... If they suddenly came to their senses and released it, then I would probably buy from them. It would be more expensive, but the quality would obviously not be an issue. Unfortunately, the fact remains they have not made this product available. So, I'm left with two options: 1) Buy 10 individual discs from FUNimation with no pretty little box set, or 2) Buy a bootleg boxed set for a reasonable price. The choice seems clear to me.

Like Mike said, boo-hoo. Buy the 10 individual discs like everyone else.

If you're so jaded that you need to have a pretty little paper box adorning your collection (which no one would really see anyway, if it's in a shelf) then buy the VHS fucking box, they sell it on the site. There will be a little extra room in it, but you can fill that up with a few issues of manga or something.

Or you could make your fucking own.

edit
As far as the choice being clear, it is, you shouldn't do it. Buying bootlegs is illegal, like every other act of piracy out there. There are penalties for such actions to the buyer, and the seller alike. I think when taking that into account, it would be obvious.

[desirecampbell]

No, you've personally *chosen* to be a bootlegger. You have your options... you just don't *want* to pay for them. There's absolutely nothing inherently preventing you from legally obtaining the material that has been licensed for release. You just don't want to.

Boo-fuckin'-hoo.

Not true. As I've already mentioned, Funimation has released every DBZ saga on DVD as a boxed set, except for the Freeza saga - which just happens to be the one I want... If they suddenly came to their senses and released it, then I would probably buy from them. It would be more expensive, but the quality would obviously not be an issue. Unfortunately, the fact remains they have not made this product available. So, I'm left with two options: 1) Buy 10 individual discs from FUNimation with no pretty little box set, or 2) Buy a bootleg boxed set for a reasonable price. The choice seems clear to me.

What the fuck are you talking about?
1. illegal
2. legal

There is only one choice, don't be a fucking moron.

[Piccolo-San]

While I respect your collective opinion and your stance on this moral dilemma, I nonetheless disagree with it whole-heartedly. I am not snatching a purse from some innocent elderly person. I can assure you that Fukanuga and the rest of the FUNi gang will sleep quite well tonight. You needn't worry about their well being.

[lost in thought]

While I respect your collective opinion and your stance on this moral dilemma, I nonetheless disagree with it whole-heartedly. I am not snatching a purse from some innocent elderly person. I can assure you that Fukanuga and the rest of the FUNi gang will sleep quite well tonight. You needn't worry about their well being.

Oh, none of us worry about their wellbeing, because they make enough off product sales.
What we're trying to tell you is that it's illegal, and you could be arrested for it, all for the sake of purchasing damn dvds. Don't be that stupid.

[VegettoEX]

While I respect your collective opinion and your stance on this moral dilemma, I nonetheless disagree with it whole-heartedly. I am not snatching a purse from some innocent elderly person. I can assure you that Fukanuga and the rest of the FUNi gang will sleep quite well tonight. You needn't worry about their well being.

This isn't about logic. This isn't about who has money. This isn't about what one whiney little fanboy wants.

This is about legality. It is not legal for you to purchase, or otherwise obtain, and therefore own, a bootlegged DBZ DVD.

At Daizenshuu EX, we are 100% against these items, and we will simply not tolerate those who insist upon looking for ways to obtain them. We ("we" meaning fandom as a whole since 1995) fought so god damned hard just to get these things released. Fans don't know how good they have it, with a company willing (and *dedicated*) to release(ing) a 500+ episode series to DVD with the Japanese version, entirely unedited. This doesn't mean I'm in love with FUNimation's DVDs, but it means I damn well respect them and don't buy bootlegs.

You want cheap Freeza discs? They're $8.99 a pop on DeepDiscountDVD.com. Go outside, get some fresh air, learn a thing or two about economics, and pay for things you want.

Christ.