What was the point of "Cell"?

GogetaSSJ2 · Post by **GogetaSSJ2** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:09 am

This is something that has boggled my mind as of late. Why did Dr. Gero ever needed to create Cell in the 1st place? Androids #17 and #18 already killed everybody except Trunks in his timeline. If the Androids ever got around to killing Trunks, all of Dr. Gero's enemies he ever had a grudge against will already be dead by the time Cell awakens 3o years later from the lab. And Imperfect Cell's 1st form was more than powerful enough to kill whatever the Andoids didn't get a chance to kill (For example: Trunks...).

So what gives? Overkill?

SSJ YUSUKE · Post by **SSJ YUSUKE** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:27 am

I think it's just a case of DR Gero being a mad scientist. He strives for perfection and even though 17 and 18 are his ultimate creations, I don't think he'd just stop trying to improve his creations. Thus if Dr Gero had not been killed by the Androids it is not inconcievable that he would continue trying to improve his work.
Since he is a mad scientist what he does doesn't have to make sense to us.

Gonstead · Post by **Gonstead** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:31 am

Cell was probably a backup plan in-case Android's 17 and 18 were a failure, in either due to controlling them or the experiment failing altogether. Once Gero found he had trouble controlling the two, he set his computer to work on Cell.

Hearts · Post by **Hearts** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:59 am

Dr. Gero is crazy...
First he makes 19, which is hundreds if not thousands of times stronger than what he anticipated Goku to be, then he makes 18 and 17 which is even stronger than that, then he makes Cell which is unimaginable stronger than the androids.. It feels like Dr.Gero wanted to use a nuclear bomb to kill an ant..

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:23 pm

Hearts wrote:Dr. Gero is crazy...
First he makes 19, which is hundreds if not thousands of times stronger than what he anticipated Goku to be, then he makes 18 and 17 which is even stronger than that, then he makes Cell which is unimaginable stronger than the androids.. It feels like Dr.Gero wanted to use a nuclear bomb to kill an ant..

Well, to be fair, the 'ant' he was trying to kill had quite the history of growing stronger and stronger over time. Even though Gero had that in mind and had already made 19 and the other Androids much stronger than he assumed Goku could ever become, he probably wanted to make absolutely sure he was ready for whatever Goku had to throw at him.

At least, that's kinda what I'd want to think, but he also makes the stupid decision not to keep watching events on Namek, something you'd think he'd be worried about if he was really worried about Goku's continuing growth to that level. Hmm...maybe the little bug robot flying around couldn't go to Namek actually.

There's also the fact that, as has been said, he's a mad scientist. He probably didn't stop to think if he 'should', he just realized that he 'could' and went with it.

Post by **Herms** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:02 pm

GogetaSSJ2 wrote:This is something that has boggled my mind as of late. Why did Dr. Gero ever needed to create Cell in the 1st place? Androids #17 and #18 already killed everybody except Trunks in his timeline.

No, we know from Cell's big speech to Piccolo that Gero started working on creating him "long ago", and that by the time of the Saiyan arc Gero had already stopped working on the project himself and had left it all up to his computer to complete. Then Gero makes 17&18, they kill him, and go on to kill Vegeta and co. So basically the computer is off working on Cell on its own the whole time Gero's working on those last few androids.

Hearts wrote:Dr. Gero is crazy...
First he makes 19, which is hundreds if not thousands of times stronger than what he anticipated Goku to be, then he makes 18 and 17 which is even stronger than that

He makes 19 after 17&18. This is stated in the conversation he has with 17&18 after he wakes them up in his lab.

Also, you know, the numbering system.

then he makes Cell which is unimaginable stronger than the androids.

Just to reemphasize, Gero started up work on Cell "long ago", then left the work up to his computer, then years later gets killed by 17&18. Cell isn't "No.21" as some people call him; he wasn't made in sequence with the rest of Gero's androids, and wasn't even really made by Gero himself.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:14 pm

I always felt like Cell was Gero's ultimate back up plan in case the androids went rogue. He's basically a living anti-android weapon and was obsessed with carrying out Gero's goals. (At least until he became perfect.)

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:22 pm

I actually forgot that Cell was technically begun working on far before the Androids were, huh. I guess that explains away the discrepency of why Gero would have had a fallback plan when he seemed not to worry about Goku being stronger than he'd already guessed then. Though...how does Cell's ability/need to absorb the Androids come into that then? That couldn't have been in his design from the beginning, so was it Gero who later tweaked that, or was it the computer?

Also, this now just goes to my other guess then - he started the creation of Cell simply because he could. Science run amok. Life found a way. Ian Malcolm was right, and all that jazz.

GsTvo · Post by **GsTvo** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:39 pm

As I see it:

#16: Succeed creating a 100% robot.
#17 and #18: Succeed creating an android with a human base.
#19: Succeed creating an android with the ability of absorb energy (And a partner).
Cell: Succeed creating a bio-android, with cells of the strongest warriors in the universe.

It was different experiments, and Dr. Gero was a crazy scientific so... there's the reason.

GogetaSSJ2 · Post by **GogetaSSJ2** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:10 pm

What's ironic about the whole thing is, even if Cell was a back up plan, Gero would have still failed because I bet he wasn't expecting someone like Gohan to kill his ultimate creation.

You think after studying the Z warriors for so many years Gero would pick up on Gohan's hidden potential and calculate that power into his designs for the Androids and Cell lol

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:06 pm

Gero was evil but he was not "crazy".

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:39 am

Out of story, Old friends of Toryama disliked each villain that showed up during the Cell Saga all the way to Cell's Perfect Form.

In Story---Gero is a madman? You kinda have to be when you go off the rails, initially make machines to kill Goku, and instead create machines that commit genocide.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:46 am

Gero wanted to create the perfect being. It wasn't all about revenge. However, he quickly realized that his Cell experiment would take many, many years, so he let his computer handle it while he managed his other creations.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:39 pm

As others said before, Dr. Gero is a crazy muthafuka and wanted to go big or go home however he abandoned the Cell as he knew he wouldn't live to see it complete but the programming for Cell was complex beyond even his comprehension.

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