Hyperbolic Time Chamber Errors

[Lord_X_Beerus]

When the Hyperbolic Time Chamber was first introduced Mr.Popo Said that only 2 people can be in the room at once, however in the Buu Saga when Trunks and Goten Fused into Gotenks to fight Super Buu Piccolo was in the room at the same time. Also In the Cell saga Goku said that they are completely cut off from the Earth and said that they can't feel Trunk's Or Vegeta's energy, However once again in the Buu saga Piccolo was taking Super Buu to the Chamber while talking to Goten and Trunks. It's probably bad writing or the rules went over Toriyamas head while witing.

[90sDBZ]

I remember reading years ago that Goku eventually admitted that he lied about that to get Vegeta and Trunks to spend time together. I'm not sure if that's actually the case though.

[TheRed259]

Wasn't that the 3rd time Piccolo entered the Hyperbolic time chamber? If this is true, that's an extra mistake as well, right?
Correct me if I am wrong but I do think that he did enter the room twice in the Cell Saga.

[Herms]

I remember reading years ago that Goku eventually admitted that he lied about that to get Vegeta and Trunks to spend time together. I'm not sure if that's actually the case though.

That's not actually the case.

(I've moved this thread over to the In-Universe forum.)

[Kaboom]

I suspect that either...

1) Only 2 people at once is the practical limit, because of the living space or how much food can be stored or something like that, or...
2) The time-stretching effects of the room don't happen if more than two people are inside.

[Hitiro]

Where is this line by Popo about there being a 2 person limit? In the Viz bigs Goku says to Vegeta that the room is only "set up" for two people. No limit is ever imposed in the manga as far as I can see. I don't suppose if Herms could tell us if the Japanese version actually says it's limited to 2 people? As far as I've seen Popo doesn't even comment on the RoSaT's 2 person at a time thing. Is it a filler line?

Wasn't that the 3rd time Piccolo entered the Hyperbolic time chamber? If this is true, that's an extra mistake as well, right?
Correct me if I am wrong but I do think that he did enter the room twice in the Cell Saga.

You're only allowed to stay in the RoSaT for a total of 2 days of your life. I don't believe there was ever an amount of times you could go into there. You could go in there 48 times if you only used an hour each time.

[TheLegend23]

Wasn't that the 3rd time Piccolo entered the Hyperbolic time chamber? If this is true, that's an extra mistake as well, right?
Correct me if I am wrong but I do think that he did enter the room twice in the Cell Saga.

He was going to but I don't think he did. I'll have to go watch it again quick.

[dbzfan7]

I suspect that either...

1) Only 2 people at once is the practical limit, because of the living space or how much food can be stored or something like that, or...

I personally go with this one. Especially food since saiyans eat a lot.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Wasn't that the 3rd time Piccolo entered the Hyperbolic time chamber? If this is true, that's an extra mistake as well, right?
Correct me if I am wrong but I do think that he did enter the room twice in the Cell Saga.

They only said you can spend no more than 2 days (years) in there. Nothing about the number of times you enter.

But the fact that 3-4 characters were in there at the same time in the Buu Saga must have been a plot hole. It would make sense to have Goku state the limit is 2 people so Trunks and Vegeta could spend more time together, however with the world being in peril at the time, it also doesn't make sense to have him say this if it isn't true.

[TTC817]

I have always believed that the room was SET UP for two people, not restricted to two people being in there. Nothing explicitly (to my recollection) states that only two people can be in at a time.

[KentalSSJ6]

I suspect that either...

1) Only 2 people at once is the practical limit, because of the living space or how much food can be stored or something like that, or...
2) The time-stretching effects of the room don't happen if more than two people are inside.

Which begs the question. Why not just bring food in with them? Have Bulma put a supermarket in a capsule and take it in with them.

[hyperbeing1]

I suspect that either...

1) Only 2 people at once is the practical limit, because of the living space or how much food can be stored or something like that, or...
2) The time-stretching effects of the room don't happen if more than two people are inside.

Which begs the question. Why not just bring food in with them? Have Bulma put a supermarket in a capsule and take it in with them.

From what i notice saiyans eat a lot one could basically clear a supermarket in minutes let alone a year. I gotta mention though their must have been tons of food in there to last the saiyans a year and i am also thinking a couple of senzu beans.

The whole Piccolo thing, if he did go in more then twice, can be explained by him being the former guardian and having certain privileges.

[KentalSSJ6]

I suspect that either...

1) Only 2 people at once is the practical limit, because of the living space or how much food can be stored or something like that, or...
2) The time-stretching effects of the room don't happen if more than two people are inside.

Which begs the question. Why not just bring food in with them? Have Bulma put a supermarket in a capsule and take it in with them.

From what i notice saiyans eat a lot one could basically clear a supermarket in minutes let alone a year. I gotta mention though their must have been tons of food in there to last the saiyans a year and i am also thinking a couple of senzu beans.

The whole Piccolo thing, if he did go in more then twice, can be explained by him being the former guardian and having certain privileges.

Yet Goku and Gohan managed to eat year round with what was already in the chamber, which was a single room with two fridges and a bunch of jars. If two Saiyans can ration off that for a year, they'd be able to work with a supermarket.

[hyperbeing1]

Yet Goku and Gohan managed to eat year round with what was already in the chamber, which was a single room with two fridges and a bunch of jars. If two Saiyans can ration off that for a year, they'd be able to work with a supermarket.

i am assuming their must have been a huge amount of senzu beans aside from the food or the fridge is like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber much much bigger on the inside.Aside from that we see goku clear entire places when he is just a kid. i am gonna doubt a single supermarket, which is unsafe to go at considering Cell being around and about, would fill them up.
I know i am basically repeating my post, but i will say this again. I do heavily believe that considering the Hyperbolic Time chamber is meant to last Two years at most and it having a single room with two fridges and a couple of jars. I am going to assume that the fridges are much bigger on the inside or in the jars their is an extreme amount of senzu beans.
Ps: if you detect an attitude was not my intention and i do apologize in advance for a potential misunderstanding.

[Regarder]

Toriyama didn't think of it, but if Toriyama didn't think of it, then maybe Bulma didn't either, but if Bulma didn't think of it, maybe Toriyama did think of it; it now being Bulma not thinking of it.

Hang on... I can explain this better... I mean, if Toriyama can forget that the capsules can solve this problem, then why couldn't the characters forget? Maybe Toriyama did remember and he decided to have the characters not remember?

Am I making excuses now?

[Hitiro]

Yet Goku and Gohan managed to eat year round with what was already in the chamber, which was a single room with two fridges and a bunch of jars. If two Saiyans can ration off that for a year, they'd be able to work with a supermarket.

i am assuming their must have been a huge amount of senzu beans aside from the food or the fridge is like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber much much bigger on the inside.Aside from that we see goku clear entire places when he is just a kid. i am gonna doubt a single supermarket, which is unsafe to go at considering Cell being around and about, would fill them up.
I know i am basically repeating my post, but i will say this again. I do heavily believe that considering the Hyperbolic Time chamber is meant to last Two years at most and it having a single room with two fridges and a couple of jars. I am going to assume that the fridges are much bigger on the inside or in the jars their is an extreme amount of senzu beans.
Ps: if you detect an attitude was not my intention and i do apologize in advance for a potential misunderstanding.

There aren't that many Senzu in the Z arc. Though I don't understand the Senzu shortage in the Z arc considering in the Piccolo Daimao arc Yajirobe had a pot full of them right in front of him. That pot definitely had well over a 100 beans in it. I guess with Yajirobe and Karin living there they were eating them every day for years? But I doubt that the fridge was stocked with them considering the Senzu shortage in the story later. There wouldn't really need to be that many Senzu in the RoSaT for one day's worth of time in there either. Considering that there are 350 odd days in a year and each Senzu feeds you for 10 days then they would only need 70 beans for two people.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

That was probably just it. Yajirobe ATE all of the Senzu beans in Dragon Ball!! Thus the shortage....

[Hitiro]

That was probably just it. Yajirobe ATE all of the Senzu beans in Dragon Ball!! Thus the shortage....

I think I'm being overly generous as to how many Senzu were in that pot though. There could be as much as several hundred Senzu in there. What are we looking at for them to be all gone by the time they are needed again? I can't even remember the time frame between Piccolo Daimao arc and the late Saiyan arc. Is it like 10 years or something? In that case Yajirobe and Karin went through 600 Senzu during that time? Perhaps it makes sense I guess. But if Karin is struggling to grow the beans in the Z era then how is he living off them? He had to be growing the Senzu in excess up to the Daimao arc which doesn't make much sense if you get into the story later because he has gone from stocking several hundred Senzu to barely making a living with them. I think there is a line that says he had stopped growing them for a while, right?

[hyperbeing1]

That was probably just it. Yajirobe ATE all of the Senzu beans in Dragon Ball!! Thus the shortage....

I think I'm being overly generous as to how many Senzu were in that pot though. There could be as much as several hundred Senzu in there. What are we looking at for them to be all gone by the time they are needed again? I can't even remember the time frame between Piccolo Daimao arc and the late Saiyan arc. Is it like 10 years or something? In that case Yajirobe and Karin went through 600 Senzu during that time? Perhaps it makes sense I guess. But if Karin is struggling to grow the beans in the Z era then how is he living off them? He had to be growing the Senzu in excess up to the Daimao arc which doesn't make much sense if you get into the story later because he has gone from stocking several hundred Senzu to barely making a living with them. I think there is a line that says he had stopped growing them for a while, right?

I think it can also be explained the senzu beans that are in the hyperbolic time chamber is meant specifically for that,i do not remember if this is just filler or not but i remember karin in the anime eating fish.