Some quick questions on Funi DVDs vs the Dragon Boxes...

Amiable-Akuma · Post by **Amiable-Akuma** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:37 pm

Please, answer one of the below questions or as many as you can...it's greatly appreciated.

I've finally saved up enough to buy all the Dragon Box sets and naturally I want all of DBZ, DB, and GT with equal interest - and I want them all in their best viewing format with their best possible pictue quality --- however, I don't really want to go through the trouble of buying all the Dragon Boxes if it doesn't make sense to...hence I desperately need the answers to the following questions:

1. I know that portions of "Dragon Ball Z" are zoomed in on the Funi discs...but are sections of "Dragon Ball" zoomed in as well? What about GT?

2. And, if so, how much of each series (DB/Z/GT) is zoomed in? What percentage? Just guess/estimate...about 50 percent or more, less, etc?

3. What about the TV Specials (Bardock, Trunks, and the GT)? Are the Funi DVDs zoomed in on those as well? And the TV specials are the same aspect ratio as the regular eps right? It's not like the Dragon Boxes letter box those while Funi doesn't, right?

4. About all the DB/DBZ movies - is it true that it's better to get them all on Funi DVD only because Funi doesn't letterbox them (ie cutting off portions of the original picture) while the Dragon Boxes do? Are all the movies in the Dragon Box movie set detrimentally letterboxed? If not, which aren't?

5. In terms of picture quality - I know that the DBZ episodes in the Dragon Boxes look much better than the Funi but is this also very true of the original DB and GT episodes? Does each series compare differently? Or do the Dragon Boxes just blow all of Funi's stuff away? How do each compare?

6. And what about the movies? How does picture quality compare between the Funi movies and the Dragon Box movies (despite possible letterboxing)?

7. Last question, slightly more off topic - I just bought the R4 DB set and the R1 tournament saga - and I've decided I want to run them both through my computer to test for picture quality and, more importantly, pixelization issues. Can somebody just quickly name for me a good, really fast-moving scene that you know of within the first 20 or so original DB episodes - that would be great for testing this?

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:48 pm

As far as I saw in ways of screenshots, it was just Z that was zoomed in on. The differences with DB and GT in Dragon Box format compared to FUNi DVDs are the amount of grain on the film and the saturation. The FUNi DVDs have a high saturation that makes the color look pretty bad, especially in Dragon Ball (orange would come out looking like a bright yellowish orange). The grain was cleaned up in the Dragon Box sets.

No, the TV specials are not in letterbox format since those were animated like any normal episode, only they're longer in time length.

As for the movie box, it's your call. The Dragon Box comes with all of the movies. DB movie 1 isn't available uncut anywhere outside of Japan in the English language, or subtitled. DB movie 2 has a bit of a weird thing going on with the Japanese video during the opening, while the dub uses the original Dragon Ball opening and ending used for the 1995 dub. Z movie 1 now has an added sound effect in the Japanese track. Yeah, the Dragon Boxes are in letterbox, but that really shouldn't matter since it's cleaned up and includes goodies. Though I'm sure the US DVDs may be cheaper all together.

And yes, all of the movies in the Dragon Box movies set are in letterbox format.

From what I saw of screenshot, Dragon Boxes are more superior in quality. Here's a couple of examples in terms of quality for GT:

As for the movies, we don't know. The movies Dragon Box is set to be sent out to those who reserved it next month. There really haven't been any screenshots aside from those posted on the official site, though those have been spruced up to come out looking fancier, like other screenshot images, for the site.

As for the quality, I'm pretty sure it's the same thing. Just a completely different distributor and region disc.

As for your purchasing of the Dragon Boxes..good luck finding any new copies or any Japanese folk selling their's that are also willing to ship outside of Japan.

And for some reason, CDJapan's still taking pre-orders for the movie box. o_O;

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:30 pm

I find it so freaking funny how some people prefer the GT Dragonbox over the FUNi releases all because of the color saturation. C'mon you guys, that's gotta be the most spoiled sounding nit-pickey complaint of anything else. Personally, I don't mind FUNi's "saturation" on GT in the least, it doesn't in any way distract me from the viewing experience, and the fact that FUNi's GT prints are 100% Uncut to begin with is more than enough reason to buy over Toei's. Hell, you can go to any Best Buy right now and purchase the Bebi and Super 17 saga box-sets for about $37 each, combine that with the imminent Shadow Dragon set, Lost Episodes starter set and rest of that saga's DVDs (let's say $15 each while the starter-set is about $20), and the Goku Jr. special (let's say $18 ), I think that's not too bad a deal. The GT box-sets FUNi're currently releasing, combined with the starter-set, last 4 Lost episode DVDs, and Goku Jr. special DVD, that about comes to $209. That's a hell of a lot less than $500, which is the minimum going price of the GT Dragonbox. FUNi's release of the GT series has no zoom-in effect, it's equally 100% Uncut to the Dragonbox counterpart, the only missing screws being the Eye-catchers for the Goku Jr. special and final scrolling Kanji credits that roll on the screen as Goku walks along the outside of the Tenkaichi Budokai arena in episode 64 (which the Dragonbox doesn't even have either). Not only that, it has the Steve Simmons translated subtitles, something the Dragonbox release obviously doesn't have.

Amiable-Akuma · Post by **Amiable-Akuma** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:59 pm

Thanks for your replies, they're great.

Well, hmm, it sounds like buying the the Dragonball and, for sure, the two DBZ Dragon Boxes might be worth it but that there's little benefit (if any) to getting the GT and Movie Dragon Boxes. Do you feel that's an accurate assessment? I mean, saturation level means nothing to me - whether it's too bright or too dark. Saturation is one of the easiest things to change either via PC videog editing programs or just extra calibration on your TV settings.

But do we believe that Toei has done the noise and scratch removal from the GT/Movie boxes that Funi hasn't and that it makes a significant difference? Seems like the general opinion is that there was never even enough noise/scratch damage on the prints that Toei gave Funi or just in general - to begin with anyway. But correct me if I'm wrong.

As for buying the actual JPN Dragon Boxes - yeah, I know it's a pain. God knows that I wish they would take new pre-orders again sometime or at least have created more Boxes in the first place. The only current, semi-safe/sane way I know to do it is through some online international bidding company like CELGA. So that's what it will come down to for me - if I can ever finally decide on which way of buying each piece of the series will satisfy me most.

EDIT: ALSO...can somebody answer my questions as to percentage zoomed in? If, as suggested, it hasn't been done as much (or at all) to the GT/DB sets -- how much of the footage from DBZ is zoomed in on...would you guess? Is it just certain scenes here and there or most of every episode or what? If it turns out that it's not too much then maybe I can rationilize keeping the Funi stuff I have or maybe only buying one of the two DBZ boxes instead of both. Thanks...

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:42 pm

EDIT: ALSO...can somebody answer my questions as to percentage zoomed in? If, as suggested, it hasn't been done as much (or at all) to the GT/DB sets -- how much of the footage from DBZ is zoomed in on...would you guess? Is it just certain scenes here and there or most of every episode or what? If it turns out that it's not too much then maybe I can rationilize keeping the Funi stuff I have or maybe only buying one of the two DBZ boxes instead of both. Thanks...

Regarding Z, basically everything is zoomed in. While comparisons havent been done for each second of every episode, most screenshot comparisons do indicate that there is, infact, zooming from each arc to the next.

Amiable-Akuma wrote: Well, hmm, it sounds like buying the the Dragonball and, for sure, the two DBZ Dragon Boxes might be worth it but that there's little benefit (if any) to getting the GT and Movie Dragon Boxes. Do you feel that's an accurate assessment? I mean, saturation level means nothing to me - whether it's too bright or too dark. Saturation is one of the easiest things to change either via PC videog editing programs or just extra calibration on your TV settings.

I'm not sure if the sauturation on GT is the same with Z. For odd reasons, a lot of the reds are very dark, while other colours are very bright. This ends up meaning that while you can change other colours to look "right", you can't change other colours, because they go one way rather than another. It's a bit fickly.

If you're going to cash-in on the Dragonboxes.. um, I wouldn't suggest it. They're generally pretty darn expensive right now and unless you're getting a good deal from someone, you'd be better off picking up the Z singles, or even the HK R3 release. Note that singles for the other series will come out eventually.

But do we believe that Toei has done the noise and scratch removal from the GT/Movie boxes that Funi hasn't and that it makes a significant difference? Seems like the general opinion is that there was never even enough noise/scratch damage on the prints that Toei gave Funi or just in general - to begin with anyway. But correct me if I'm wrong.

It's there, however your mileage may vary. Some movies, given age, will have it worse than others. Movie #12 might look the best so far, but I'm going to give it comparisons anyway with the Dragonbox.

As for buying the actual JPN Dragon Boxes - yeah, I know it's a pain. God knows that I wish they would take new pre-orders again sometime or at least have created more Boxes in the first place. The only current, semi-safe/sane way I know to do it is through some online international bidding company like CELGA. So that's what it will come down to for me - if I can ever finally decide on which way of buying each piece of the series will satisfy me most.

With those kinds of services, while they're awesome for smaller, cheaper things, you're going to end up paying a lot more when it comes to the other end buying it, calculating a fee, shipping, etcetc. Best off getting singles now.

I find it so freaking funny how some people prefer the GT Dragonbox over the FUNi releases all because of the color saturation. C'mon you guys, that's gotta be the most spoiled sounding nit-pickey complaint of anything else.

I like colours proper? I like collections to match up? It's my money?

Personally, I don't mind FUNi's "saturation" on GT in the least, it doesn't in any way distract me from the viewing experience, and the fact that FUNi's GT prints are 100% Uncut to begin with is more than enough reason to buy over Toei's.

But personally, I do notice colour saturation, plus from what I can remember, the audio on R1 GT isn't as good as the audio on the R2.

$500, which is the minimum going price of the GT Dragonbox.

Yes, assuming you didn't preorder, which was the same price as each funimation single, or there abouts. Plus Dragonradar, new artwork, sturdier packaging etc etc. But hey, personal preference.

Not only that, it has the Steve Simmons translated subtitles, something the Dragonbox release obviously doesn't have.

No one with any idea what they're on about would expect such a massive series to contain subtitles in a foreign language release, and on top of that if the OP is considering boxes/singles from japan, subtitles aren't an issue.

4. About all the DB/DBZ movies - is it true that it's better to get them all on Funi DVD only because Funi doesn't letterbox them (ie cutting off portions of the original picture) while the Dragon Boxes do? Are all the movies in the Dragon Box movie set detrimentally letterboxed? If not, which aren't?

Entirely your preference, and while the R1s are cut, they aren't as good looking nor as complete as the R2 will be.

You see, a lot of these films are animated at 4:3 for cost-concerns, but they're also animated with a 16:9 theatrical showing in mind. However, the 4:3 works well as a home-video means back then, so they were released in both. Now, when things are cut from top to bottom, NOTHING IMPORTANT IS LOST. This is a very important thing, that while it is still animated, generally, mostly, it's either backgrounds, the tip of someones head, or something completely irrelevant. So it's perfectly enjoyable in either aspect. personally, I enjoy 16:9 more, because I feel the 4:3 is more "spaced out", it's entirely up to you, but it's best to understand why these things are done than to simply go "wuh, cut! wah!"

ignition · Post by **ignition** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:48 pm

I'm 100% satisfied with my R1 Funimation DVDs. I suppose the only reason I would ever even possibly think of picking up the Japanese Dragonboxes would be if I won the lottery and had nothing else to spend my money on.

If that makes me a passive fan then so be it. I just don't see the reason to pick up anything for that price point that's really not that different quality between regions.

It's not like it's the difference between aspect ratio or frame rate or anything major. From what I've seen, the color saturation and the grain is negligible between the releases. I'm sure some people will differ, but let's face it... Dragonball was never made to be seen on a 60" plasma HD set.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:52 pm

ignition wrote: Dragonball was never made to be seen on a 60" plasma HD set.

No one is really denying that.

If that makes me a passive fan then so be it. I just don't see the reason to pick up anything for that price point that's really not that different quality between regions.

Dude, how much money you invest/have/whatever doesn't make you any less of a fan than someone who does. The fact is you're atleast buying a legit release of the series, so there's no big deal, really

Amiable-Akuma · Post by **Amiable-Akuma** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:06 pm

In response to Blitzen's first reply:

^^^Hmm, thanks for you response. And yeah, I hear everything your saying. God, this issue is frustrating though - for the general consumer who's a perfectionist but doesn't have collector's level money/interests (someone like me) - getting what you want out of this series on DVD has been impossible for years now and apparently still is.

I guess when the R2 singles have all been released for all 3 series' plus the movies/specials - then THAT will be some sort of solid solution but still that seems uncertain and a long way off...

Are we even sure that Toei will be releasing singles of DB, GT, the movies, and the specials? My feeling was that they would do it for Z since that series has the most proven demand but that everything else might not get the same treatment.

Yeah, and it's true that subtitles aren't an issue for me. However, that's only because picture quality is instead and because I find it fairly easy to add subs to anything. The R2 singles would be fine...

...if they were all out now. That would be great and more than enough to satisfy me. As it stands though I haven't watched much of the series on DVD yet at all and am pretty desperate to just have everything now and call it a day. Whadda ya gonna do?

How long do you think it will be before Toei releases everything on singles? And will they start with the original DB next?

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:20 pm

Amiable-Akuma wrote:In response to Blitzen's first reply:

^^^Hmm, thanks for you response. And yeah, I hear everything your saying. God, this issue is frustrating though - for the general consumer who's a perfectionist but doesn't have collector's level money/interests (someone like me) - getting what you want out of this series on DVD has been impossible for years now and apparently still is.

The answer to this is to never ever be interested in Anime, ever, because it's far too annoying

Are we even sure that Toei will be releasing singles of DB, GT, the movies, and the specials? My feeling was that they would do it for Z since that series has the most proven demand but that everything else might not get the same treatment.

The chances are very, very high that both GT and DB will get a similar style of release. The reason Z is out first is because yes, it's the most popular, but it was also the first series to be released Via Dragonbox. So subsequently, DB and GT will come. I'm unsure about the movies but if they were to come out, it wont be for some time now, so get the Dragonbox if you're uncertian (if you still can. amazon.co.jp will have some for sale after initial preorders ship, as they often overorder or have preorders cancelled). The specials... I'm not so sure about, hopefully they do.

Yeah, and it's true that subtitles aren't an issue for me. However, that's only because picture quality is instead and because I find it fairly easy to add subs to anything. The R2 singles would be fine...

Have you given consideration towards the R3? The picture quality is not the same as the R2s, but they are better than the R1s.

...if they were all out now. That would be great and more than enough to satisfy me. As it stands though I haven't watched much of the series on DVD yet at all and am pretty desperate to just have everything now and call it a day. Whadda ya gonna do?

I still think picking up the singles as they come out is ultimatly the cheaper way to do it but eh.

How long do you think it will be before Toei releases everything on singles? And will they start with the original DB next?

three discs per month excluding singles which I have no clue about. 11 discs for GT, 26 for DB, and a remaining 37 for Z, would be roughly two years before everything is out in singles.

This is a bit of a risk, but a similar situation occoured with the Fist of the north Star TV series. There was a limited edition box (similar to Dragonbox), which was done in june of 2002. THen 26 single discs came out. Now, in june of this year, the TV box is being reprinted and reissueD (preorder only, as per usual), obviously to tie in with the new FotNS Movie/OVA franchise. This might happen to the Z boxes but it wouldn't be until maybe atleast next year.

Amiable-Akuma · Post by **Amiable-Akuma** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:21 pm

ignition wrote:I'm 100% satisfied with my R1 Funimation DVDs. I suppose the only reason I would ever even possibly think of picking up the Japanese Dragonboxes would be if I won the lottery and had nothing else to spend my money on.

If that makes me a passive fan then so be it. I just don't see the reason to pick up anything for that price point that's really not that different quality between regions.

It's not like it's the difference between aspect ratio or frame rate or anything major. From what I've seen, the color saturation and the grain is negligible between the releases. I'm sure some people will differ, but let's face it... Dragonball was never made to be seen on a 60" plasma HD set.

God, ignition, I wish I was like you. I think normally I am. But about this series - I don't know - I just can't be. It's not that DB/Z/etc are just one of my favorite shows - it's THE show. My favorite show/thing to watch of all time - including all other live-action, anime, and even porn that's ever existed.

I just can't help it. When that original DB theme song comes on - I swear I lose my mind with ecstacy. It's funny really cause I swear I'm pretty conservative and non-nerdy about everything else in my life.

If I could think like you - god knows that would be sweet. I already have basically every Funi DB release out there but I haven't even watched any of it much just because I've been going crazy about trying to find the perfect set to own so I can watch it all from start to finish again, without pause - just like I did back in the early 90's with fansubbed VHS DB.

It's obvious now though that the whole situation is driving me insane and there seems to be no solution other than spending an obscene amount of money or just buying nothing until the right time comes along.

Lord, I don't know. Somebody remind me again how little difference there is between the two in terms of quality...I can't get it out of my head that it's not huge...

Amiable-Akuma · Post by **Amiable-Akuma** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:37 pm

Blitzen wrote:The answer to this is to never ever be interested in Anime, ever, because it's far too annoying

LOL. Yeah, I'm already scared out of my mind thanks to everything that's happened with this series. God knows what I'll do when I try to start collecting other stuff. I can only pray that in the time I figure this one out - many of the others I'm interested in will have had at least their semi-definitive releases out and complete.

Blitzen wrote:Have you given consideration towards the R3? The picture quality is not the same as the R2s, but they are better than the R1s.

Which are these? The ones with the blue cases, the Chinese subs, and the bad Eng subs or something else? Please, point me to what your talking about...

By the way - thanks for all your other information in that response as well. I guess then based on your advice and depending on what I see after a little research - I'll go ahead and get the R3 stuff while buying the R2 singles as they release. Then eventually things will work themselves out.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:40 pm

Amiable-Akuma wrote:
Blitzen wrote:The answer to this is to never ever be interested in Anime, ever, because it's far too annoying
LOL. Yeah, I'm already scared out of my mind thanks to everything that's happened with this series. God knows what I'll do when I try to start collecting other stuff. I can only pray that in the time I figure this one out - many of the others I'm interested in will have had at least their semi-definitive releases out and complete.

Blitzen wrote:Have you given consideration towards the R3? The picture quality is not the same as the R2s, but they are better than the R1s.
Which are these? The ones with the blue cases, the Chinese subs, and the bad Eng subs or something else? Please, point me to what your talking about...

By the way - thanks for all your other information in that response as well. I guess then based on your advice and depending on what I see after a little research - I'll go ahead and get the R3 stuff while buying the R2 singles as they release. Then eventually things will work themselves out.

www.yesasia.com is where you get them. Generally they're in black and white cases (or slightly grey, or something. Dragonball however is in Dragonbox-esque colours). They dont have english subs or next episode previews I dont think but everything else is fine. They're more affordable than any other legit release too.

DBZ is in 11 sets, DB is on 3 thus far.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:58 pm

FUNi's GT looks like the film masters were kept in a litterbox.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:31 pm

Castor Troy wrote:FUNi's GT looks like the film masters were kept in a litterbox.

Agreed. Totally ignoring the colors, it's grainy as Hell. It's rather disgusting.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:14 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:FUNi's GT looks like the film masters were kept in a litterbox.
Agreed. Totally ignoring the colors, it's grainy as Hell. It's rather disgusting.

Sigh - it still looks better than what I see on YTV...

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:33 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:I find it so freaking funny how some people prefer the GT Dragonbox over the FUNi releases all because of the color saturation. C'mon you guys, that's gotta be the most spoiled sounding nit-pickey complaint of anything else. Personally, I don't mind FUNi's "saturation" on GT in the least, it doesn't in any way distract me from the viewing experience, and the fact that FUNi's GT prints are 100% Uncut to begin with is more than enough reason to buy over Toei's. Hell, you can go to any Best Buy right now and purchase the Bebi and Super 17 saga box-sets for about $37 each, combine that with the imminent Shadow Dragon set, Lost Episodes starter set and rest of that saga's DVDs (let's say $15 each while the starter-set is about $20), and the Goku Jr. special (let's say $18 ), I think that's not too bad a deal. The GT box-sets FUNi're currently releasing, combined with the starter-set, last 4 Lost episode DVDs, and Goku Jr. special DVD, that about comes to $209. That's a hell of a lot less than $500, which is the minimum going price of the GT Dragonbox. FUNi's release of the GT series has no zoom-in effect, it's equally 100% Uncut to the Dragonbox counterpart, the only missing screws being the Eye-catchers for the Goku Jr. special and final scrolling Kanji credits that roll on the screen as Goku walks along the outside of the Tenkaichi Budokai arena in episode 64 (which the Dragonbox doesn't even have either). Not only that, it has the Steve Simmons translated subtitles, something the Dragonbox release obviously doesn't have.

I currently own almost all of GT in R1 format. I'm already sending out a check to purchase the GT Dragon Box from someone. Why? Picture quality is horrible on the R1 GT DVDs. Yes, there's subtitles. But after having seen the series so many times, it's pretty much easy to recognize what's going on or who's saying what. There's very little in ways of extras on the R1 discs. At least the Dragon Boxes include goodies.

As it was mentioned earlier, the saturation is pretty bad, as is the grain. My home DVD player is busted, so I have to use my comp DVD player (which also allows me to play import DVDs). It's rather frustrating seeing an overly bright pink Super Saiyan 4 fur. Not to mention, you can hardly see some details, like in the Next Episode previews. o_o

Amiable-Akuma · Post by **Amiable-Akuma** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:46 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:FUNi's GT looks like the film masters were kept in a litterbox.
Agreed. Totally ignoring the colors, it's grainy as Hell. It's rather disgusting.

Well, I guess these two quotes pretty much wrap up my decision as to whether I'll be dropping the cash on either the GT Dragon Box immediately or the singles when they come out in 2008/whenever.

Though, I have to say that - I carefully did some simple remastering of some Funi GT eps on my PC recently (- stuff from around the time they meet the Para Para Bros. (sp) and Dolltacki (sp) -) and was able to make a really significant improvement.

Basically, was able to get rid of over 90% of the grain with the only major problems left being the scratches on the film that pop up every now and then on certain frames. Part of the problem with remastering the Funi DVDs is that while you can get rid of most all noise and pixelization to have a much clearer image - it, of course, actually makes said scratches all the more apparent.

So...yet another reason why we can all appreciate how Toei diligently took the time to remove such things from their prints frame by frame.

Too bad Funi has never had the same work ethic and/or respect towards the material...

I swear if Funi showed that they cared even just a little more with respect to how they handle their DVD releases - they could almost monopolize the sales of DB stuff on DVD the world over - despite the fact that they were given sub-par transfers/material from Toei.

Now, instead, - by the time they realize this and the extended potential for sales that the series still has - all the fans will have purchased the series by means of some other import, bootleg or not.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:05 pm

Amiable-Akuma wrote: Now, instead, - by the time they realize this and the extended potential for sales that the series still has - all the fans will have purchased the series by means of some other import, bootleg or not.

Now I wouldn't go THAT far- The r1 release certianly does have a decent ammount of consumer support behind it. It's easy enough for people to say 'well, they could have done it like this! it would have made more money/sold better!", but that would have been from the sidelines from a perspective we know little about, realistically.

So I mean, in a way it's been a success, regardless of how mishandled it has been. Be this preference of some sadists or lack of choice, who knows.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:21 pm

Anime companies also tend to have contractual issues with just how much they're allowed to touch the footage. It could very well be that Toei simply wouldn't allow them to do "whatever they wanted" with the footage to bring it to what others might consider a more acceptable level.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:37 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Anime companies also tend to have contractual issues with just how much they're allowed to touch the footage. It could very well be that Toei simply wouldn't allow them to do "whatever they wanted" with the footage to bring it to what others might consider a more acceptable level.

That's true. I don't remember the exact reasons why that my friend said, but I know that Bandai had some problems like that when it came to the dvds of the original Mobile Suit Gundam. Funi might have also ran into something like that.