is Pan really the Grandmother of Goku Jr?

[successoroffate]

There's is little to none data on any of Goku Jr's parents or other relatives besides Pan. If by any chance, Pan is indeed Goku's grandmother, then that would probably mean that Goku was either Abandoned by his parents or they died somehow, which seems rather odd unless they died of Natural causes of course. Pan, During Hero's Legacy Pan states that: Once Goku Jr was born, she saw the resemblance with his grandpa on the child and decided to named the baby after him. If Pan was present during Goku Jr's Birth, that means two possible routes: 1. Pan is the mother of Goku Jr or 2. Pan saw, knows or knew Goku Jr's Parents and somehow a series of events leaded the way to Pan adopting the child.

Thoughts?

[KameRule]

I always just assumed that his parents died or something. I don't think there's any more to it.

[DoomieDoomie911]

The most likely in-universe reason is that his parents died. To be honest, though, I wouldn't think too much about it because it's obvious that there wasn't much thought put into it in the first place.

[Gyt Kaliba]

If by any chance, Pan is indeed Goku's grandmother, then that would probably mean that Goku was either Abandoned by his parents or they died somehow, which seems rather odd unless they died of Natural causes of course.

I'm assuming the natural causes bit is to cover the Dragon Balls right? Don't forget though, they were rendered unusable for a good long time (I want to say 100 years but I forget if that was only in the dub or not), so it's entirely possible they couldn't have been revived no matter what happened to them.

I kind of assumed they were gone too though, yeah.

[GTX]

It does not make sense because Hero's legacy contradicting GT.

[successoroffate]

If by any chance, Pan is indeed Goku's grandmother, then that would probably mean that Goku was either Abandoned by his parents or they died somehow, which seems rather odd unless they died of Natural causes of course.

I'm assuming the natural causes bit is to cover the Dragon Balls right? Don't forget though, they were rendered unusable for a good long time (I want to say 100 years but I forget if that was only in the dub or not), so it's entirely possible they couldn't have been revived no matter what happened to them.

I kind of assumed they were gone too though, yeah.

Yeah, is just that in the Dragon Ball Universe, there are really no natural deaths except for Grand Elder Guru and Goku dying in Future Trunks timeline due to his heart disease. So it's either way, Someone killed Goku Jr's parents off or they just died. Even if the DragonBalls were working, Natural causes would have not allow Shenlong to bring them back.

Also, I'm aware that Guru's death wasn't all natural causes as the stress he went through due to Freeza invading the planet accelerated his death.

[Hellspawn28]

Goku's Jr parents are most likely dead. They may died from being sick or they died in some type of crash. I doubt any villains came by after Super Yi Xing Long since they mention that the Earth was peaceful for a century.

[successoroffate]

Goku's Jr parents are most likely dead. They may died from being sick or they died in some type of crash. I doubt any villains came by after Super Yi Xing Long since they mention that the Earth was peaceful for a century.

Yeah, specially if Goku wasn't around. I don't think there would be a threat coming to Earth in the form of a new enemy seeking revenge or something...

[GTX]

Super Yi Xing Long since they mention that the Earth was peaceful for a century.

This statement is totally wrong

[Cetra]

Of course she is not. You can say "grandma" to your "grand-grand...grandma" as well though. There is really not more to say about this as they entire "was he adopted" thing or anything is not necessary. Of course they are a part of one family but how close? Not exactly as close as the word seems to tell us. It does not matter though. Goku's family has always been close to the rest of their people nonetheless.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Pan is stated to be Goku Jr's great-great-grandmother, so no, she isn't his mother.

[samuraix123]

I think I remember VegettoEX told me a long time ago when I asked about Goku Jr's parents, To use my imagination

[Hellspawn28]

Pan is half Saiyan and she is super strong. Her being 109 or 110 years old in GT is not surprising. If Roshi can live that long then why can't Pan?

[Zephyr]

Someone's grandmother contributing to deciding their name isn't that strange, nor is someone's parents no longer being around. I'm not seeing where there's reason for any confusion here.

[successoroffate]

Someone's grandmother contributing to deciding their name isn't that strange, nor is someone's parents no longer being around. I'm not seeing where there's reason for any confusion here.

Well, Pan got ill and the only one at the Hospital was Goku. Keep in mind, that Pan is a well known public figure during those times, so it's kinda odd the only family relative is Goku Jr. Pan helping with deciding the name is not strange at all, is just the fact that there's no else around. I was just curious about any theories on Goku Jr's Roots.

[successoroffate]

Pan is half Saiyan and she is super strong. Her being 109 or 110 years old in GT is not surprising. If Roshi can live that long then why can't Pan?

I'm not following your comment, not because I don't get it is just that I don't see where it fits in the conversation...Just curious

[DBZAOTA482]

Pan is half Saiyan and she is super strong. Her being 109 or 110 years old in GT is not surprising. If Roshi can live that long then why can't Pan?

Roshi drank the immortal elixir. That's why he lived so long.

[Cetra]

Pan is half Saiyan and she is super strong. Her being 109 or 110 years old in GT is not surprising. If Roshi can live that long then why can't Pan?

Roshi drank the immortal elixir. That's why he lived so long.

Roshi lied. He, the Crane Hermit, Baba and Tao Bai Bai are just old.

[soleil444]

In a french magazine they said that Pan have a daughter died when she have Goku junior, but still not convinced me because Pan is too old than a grand mother. I have a grand-grand mother so i think they bad calculate logical things in GT with Pan!

[Darkprince410]

Pan is half Saiyan and she is super strong. Her being 109 or 110 years old in GT is not surprising. If Roshi can live that long then why can't Pan?

Roshi drank the immortal elixir. That's why he lived so long.

Just before he went to try and use the Mafu-ba on Daimao, Roshi commented that there was no such thing as the Immortality Elixir, and that it was all a lie.

In a french magazine they said that Pan have a daughter died when she have Goku junior, but still not convinced me because Pan is too old than a grand mother. I have a grand-grand mother so i think they bad calculate logical things in GT with Pan!

That magazine made all that up. Pan is stated in the dialogue of GT to be Goku Jr's great-great grandmother, not just his grandmother. Additionally, nothing is mentioned about the generations of Pan's family between her and Goku Jr.