Dragonball novels

chronocross · Post by **chronocross** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:50 pm

Well, I was on Barnes and Nobles last night and I saw one Love Hina Novel and one Full Metal Alchemist novel. Does anyone knows if there are Dragonball novels.
I would definately would like to write one if there is none. Would anyone would like to read it?

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:39 pm

I highly doubt it. Any DragonBall themed novel would have some pretty stiff competition from years upon years of free fanfiction.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:28 am

In all fairness, 99.9% of DBZ Fiction on the net is either Yaoi or completely lame/retarded.

Don't the Lova Hina and FMA Novels come from Japan anyway (Translated, obviously).

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:18 am

Duo wrote:In all fairness, 99.9% of DBZ Fiction on the net is either Yaoi or completely lame/retarded.

Don't the Lova Hina and FMA Novels come from Japan anyway (Translated, obviously).

I thought 99.9% of all DBZ fan fiction were stories on how Bulma and Vegeta got together.

Tatsunoboshi Horoko · Post by **Tatsunoboshi Horoko** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:27 am

Duo wrote: Don't the Lova Hina and FMA Novels come from Japan anyway (Translated, obviously).

Yep.

The two FMA novels are actually pretty good. I was thinking of getting the third and fourth one off of Amazon if I had the spare cash (or just wait for the domestic release in a few months.)

Shueisha has a pretty big list of Jump comic novels. (Not like it's any new thing or anything. Hmm...they even the latest One Piece movie.)

http://j-books.shueisha.co.jp/main2.html

I would actually like to see a DBZ novel. It'd be interesting, to say the least.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:12 am

I've read some Fan-written pieces that would definately make the cut for me. One would be "Of Angels and Demons" by this boards own Xyex. Tis' a great tale indeed.

But how exactly would one go about publishing such a thing? If it hasn't been done, it probably can't be done...that's how I look at it.

Castor Troy wrote:I thought 99.9% of all DBZ fan fiction were stories on how Bulma and Vegeta got together.

I was referring to the remaining .1% cut from that ratio.

99.9% of Dragonball / Z Fanfiction is "How Bulma and Vegeta got together".
99.9% of the remaining .1% is either Yaoi or completely retarded (.0999%).

The rest is anywhere from decent to jaw-droppingly amazing pieces (.0001%).

I didn't realize this until I first visited "Fanfiction.net" because up until then all the Dragonball Fanfiction I had ever seen was on "MFG Forums" which actually consisted mostly of the .0001% stuff. FF.net showed me what was really out there...

That post ended up much bigger than intended...forgive me.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:36 am

Wait, these are fan-made novels - for sale? Is that legal?

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:50 am

*pulls an akanbe* Some yaoi is fantastic.

Actually I'm quite good on my fanfiction figures. For instance; when ff.net still allowed lemons, 92.5% of ALL fanfictions were Bulma/Vegetas.

Currently though; (due to the increase on rules, fighting sechts deleting smaller sechts and introduction of GT) These are the statistics in romance:

Total Romance pages: 441 =100%

Bulma/Vegeta: 99 = 22.4%
Pan/Trunks: 49 = 11.1%
Gohan/Videl: 37 = 8.4%
Goku/ChiChi: 17 = 3.85%
Goku/Vegeta: 15 = 3.4%
Goten/Trunks: 11 = 2.5%
Goku/Bulma: 4 = 0.9%
Gohan/Vegeta: 2 = 0.5%
Gohan/Piccolo: 2 = 0.5%
Goku/Piccolo: 1 = 0.3%
Goten/Paresu(Valese): 1 = 0.3%

As you can see... Mary Sues have made a come back! *face of horror* -and yaoi isn't as popular as it seems sometimes. =P

From previous records of FanNovels in the Star Wars fandom; and what hell that brought apon Star Wars fans; including the infamous Mary Sue by the name of, get this, Mary Jane... I would scream in horror at the concept of a Dragonball Novel. *proceeds to do so*

I don't think even 1% of fanfics would make the cut; especially these days in the era of the Vegeta and Trunks fans... can you imagine the horror of walking into your bookstore and finding nothing but B/Vs and T/Ps? It'd be unbearable... that's why I don't -browse- for fanfiction anymore. (I especially like to avoid Vegeta dominant over Goku fics, yaoi or non)

There would be few fics that I'd recommend in paper format. Chuquita's comedic series, a fic called KiBlind (not yaoi, go read it!) a few called Bound (about as yaoiish as Movie 12, so if you're in for a fantastic plot and can handle the emotional bonding it's a good read too) annnnd... not much else. And I've been reading for... 7 years.

Taking that into consideration, it would be possible to suggest electing fics by popuarity. HOWEVER popularity makes a fic neither good nor canon.. in all truth, if a fic IS popular, it's usually as far from DBZ as you can get. Constant sexual content, and dark teenage-popular themes such as rape and vampires aren't common-place in the DBZ canon.

Most fanfiction is indeed written by females. MOST fanfiction is indeed written by females between the ages of 12 and 16. Most of these females are Vegeta fans or romance saps... yeah am I putting anyone off?

Downsides: Everything. The chance of you getting the few fics you enjoy published is nill.

Upsides: ...

Our western publishing fandom would not even be as good as doujinshis. Doujinshis have a success rate of 9/10 of them being a very enjoyable read, of a ratio of 50/50 to comedy/yaoi... as our fandom is nothing like the japanese fandom. (such a shame, I, a Goku-fan am resigned to look for pro-goku fanart on japanese websites)

So, yeah. Bad. AHHH!

Chaos Saiyajin · Post by **Chaos Saiyajin** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:15 am

Duo wrote:I've read some Fan-written pieces that would definately make the cut for me. One would be "Of Angels and Demons" by this boards own Xyex. Tis' a great tale indeed.

But how exactly would one go about publishing such a thing? If it hasn't been done, it probably can't be done...that's how I look at it.

Castor Troy wrote:I thought 99.9% of all DBZ fan fiction were stories on how Bulma and Vegeta got together.
I was referring to the remaining .1% cut from that ratio.

99.9% of Dragonball / Z Fanfiction is "How Bulma and Vegeta got together".
99.9% of the remaining .1% is either Yaoi or completely retarded (.0999%).

The rest is anywhere from decent to jaw-droppingly amazing pieces (.0001%).

I didn't realize this until I first visited "Fanfiction.net" because up until then all the Dragonball Fanfiction I had ever seen was on "MFG Forums" which actually consisted mostly of the .0001% stuff. FF.net showed me what was really out there...

That post ended up much bigger than intended...forgive me.

*ahem* DBZ Fanfiction isn't always that...sometimes you get retarded sequels to GT, or AU stories...*points to sig*

Tatsunoboshi Horoko · Post by **Tatsunoboshi Horoko** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:15 pm

desirecampbell wrote:Wait, these are fan-made novels - for sale? Is that legal?

No, these are APPROVED novels. (That was what I was talking about. Take a gander at the link I posted.) Many of them are original stories that get run by the manga-ka first, and the non-original ones are just adaptations of movies/manga/anime stories. (In FMA's case, one or two of the books got turned into actual episodes. Land of Sand did...not sure about the Abducted Alchemist.)

Then there were talks about fanfiction and it confused people.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:08 pm

Chaos wrote: Smile *ahem* DBZ Fanfiction isn't always that...sometimes you get retarded sequels to GT, or AU stories...*points to sig*

You fit into the "Decent to amazing" category, making up .0001% of Dragonball Fanfiction.

I found Nekoni's post to be quite fascinating, but I really can't add to it. Seems as true as it gets.

Horoko wrote:Then there were talks about fanfiction and it confused people. Smile

Well then, if someone decided to Novelize a portion of Dragonball...? I still don't see American Fandom ever getting anything published for the Dragonball universe, no matter how good.

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:44 pm

Duo wrote:
Chaos wrote: Smile *ahem* DBZ Fanfiction isn't always that...sometimes you get retarded sequels to GT, or AU stories...*points to sig*
You fit into the "Decent to amazing" category, making up .0001% of Dragonball Fanfiction.

You can add this truly amazing piece (well, I think so) to that 0.0001% of the good fan fiction. Actually, I'd classify this as phenomenal. Anybody read this one? It deals with the depths of Vegeta's mind, and the psychological side of things. It's been a while since I've read it, but it's very realistic.

http://www.adimra.100megs6.com/fanficti ... ution.html
Tell QueenSaiyajin what you think.

Here's a little section:

He was immersed in water; something covered his mouth and nose, giving him air to breathe. He felt too sleepy to be afraid. His eyes wouldn’t open, and yet he could hear everything going on around him. Men’s voices, saying something about the Prince…That was him! Then the voice of his father, making his heart pound with sudden fear, although he couldn’t remember why…

"So the brat’s power level is up you say?"

Another man answered him. "The blast nearly killed him, your Majesty. His Saiyan healing ability has made him twice as strong as he was. But—"

"But what, speak up, now!" his father boomed impatiently.

"It’s not something I would recommend doing again," the man replied timidly. "You nearly killed him."

"No, I nearly killed his Mother. He just chose to get in the way. You should have seen him fly! It was incredible! No, despite all her misguided efforts to soften him, he will be a bloodthirsty warrior. Enough to save his people from Lord Frieza."

"And his mother? What shall we tell him when he comes out of the Regeneration chamber?"

"She is to be kept away from him. I will tell him that she is in seclusion for her own protection. Nappa will undertake his training now. He’s three standard years old. He no longer needs a mother."

Mr. Announcer · Post by **Mr. Announcer** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:21 pm

I don't think I would every read a dragonball based novel, or what I mean is, I would read it out of curiosity but not enjoy it. Somehow when I read fanfiction it just makes the dragonball world seem too serious? realistic? Not sure. It would also bother me to a different degree based on the subject because a lot of fanfiction I have read is based on the saiyans, who supposedly have some kind of advanced culture/society and according to some 12 year old girls....yeah, I wont go into that. I just prefer to say they were those evil monkey people who got blown up by Freeza and leave it at that. And romance as the main subject would either just crack me up of make me sick to my stomach. Falling in love and getting married is just such a matter of fact thing in DBZ and while it may be fun at times to fantasize about how things might've been it's just not something I can take seriously, especially if it involves a coupling that wasn't even hinted at in the series (yes, Vegeta and Gokuh count as one of those in my mind). Overall I am a very unfun person with no imagination who swore off of fanfiction 3 years ago so my opinion doesn't really matter because I'm guessing if some kind of dragonball novel were ever published, the fans would really go for that.

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:35 pm

Mr. Announcer wrote:Somehow when I read fanfiction it just makes the dragonball world seem too serious? realistic? Not sure.

It's not just a big parody, you know; there's a lot more to Dragonball Z than meets the eye! It's very complex, and serious! Just look at Vegeta!

Hey man, if you've never read in between the lines, I guess you don't have any imagination (that's surprising; you art doesn't show this).

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:09 pm

If there was a DragonballZ novel... I'd rather it be written by a male. (cut out the romance and TOO much emotional depth) It'd HAVE to be in the genres of Action/Adventure/Comedy and it'd 100% HAVE to not be centered around one character. Goku, Gohan, Goten and Trunks, Vegeta, Krillin- they'd have to take their turns... in other words, if there were to be any novel worthy of publification, it would have to be CANON and -in- style. Otherwise it's not DBZ.

100% would have to be NON-Vegeta based. It's so easy to drown on that guy. And sure, he went through the most emotional depth in DBZ (which wasn't much, just his journey of getting over his ego) but DBZ never was about Vegeta's endless turmoils to beat Goku up and troublesome childhood that so many fanfics make it out to be *sweatdrop*

x_O You can tell the concept of a novel scares me because I'm babbling...

Recently my sister participated in NaNoWriMo. She had to search up other Star Wars books and read them, because they were commonly taken as canon. (this is where I get my novel-fandom information from) MOST unthankfully some genius author decided it'd be a good move to go and kill off all the characters. Can you imagine that for DBZ?

Thankfully it's true that there's no chance of anything being published; at-least for years to come...

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:15 pm

chronocross wrote:Well, I was on Barnes and Nobles last night and I saw one Love Hina Novel and one Full Metal Alchemist novel. Does anyone knows if there are Dragonball novels.

Such books are usually translations of what are known as "light novels" in Japan -- relatively short, illustrated books that aren't manga, but carry a similar ethos. I believe a fairly substantial amount of anime are adapted from this medium in addition to manga, but there are plenty of light novel adaptations of anime and manga, as well. I don't know offhand if there are any such books in the Dragon Ball franchise (too lazy to check Shueisha's site), but my guess would be no.

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:08 pm

That might fit; except for Barnes and Nobles' company profile.

They're a company specialising in new, up-and-coming female authors. They produce a wide range of romantic and erotic books. *nod*

Tatsunoboshi Horoko · Post by **Tatsunoboshi Horoko** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:43 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote: don't know offhand if there are any such books in the Dragon Ball franchise (too lazy to check Shueisha's site), but my guess would be no.

I thought I had found one buried deep in the corridors of Shueisha's J-Books section, but it ended up being something completely different.

chronocross · Post by **chronocross** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:10 am

Well, I am going to get my mangas, take my time, remember as much of my spanish dialogue as i can try to write an adpatation of all the volumes. Since it seems that I am never going to get to read a Dragonball novel i will write one myself, it might take me 12 years, i am still young

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:06 am

Didn't some kid and his mom write some dbz novel many years ago?

I remember we ridiculed the crap out of it on planetnamek.

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