Resurrection Time Limit?

Aremke · Post by **Aremke** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:47 am

This has been nagging at me for a long time. I swear I heard in the series that the Dragonballs can't resurrect a person if they've been dead for over a year. Am I just imagining things?

I know Goku was dead for a full year before he was wished back to life to battle Vegeta and Nappa. But what about someone dead longer than that? If I'm right, maybe that's why they never tried to bring back Grandpa Gohan among other things.

Katalyst · Post by **Katalyst** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:51 am

I'm not totally sure Goku was actually dead for a full year, if I remember correctly the manga said something about the saiyans coming earlier then expected? I'll look it up.
But you are right about the "dead for a year" thing. It was said in DB. I don't remember who said it, but i'm 100% that it was said numerous times.

P.S. Wheres issue 8?!?

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:02 pm

Aremke wrote:This has been nagging at me for a long time. I swear I heard in the series that the Dragonballs can't resurrect a person if they've been dead for over a year. Am I just imagining things?

I know Goku was dead for a full year before he was wished back to life to battle Vegeta and Nappa. But what about someone dead longer than that? If I'm right, maybe that's why they never tried to bring back Grandpa Gohan among other things.

Even before they put that limit on it, back in DB, upon hearing that they will have all seven Dragon Balls, Upa asks that it wouldn't be right to wish his father back with Grandpa Gohan dead. Grandpa Gohan said not to worry about him and that he was enjoying the afterlife as there were a lot of far fetching lady souls there. Yamcha then makes some comment to Old Man Roshi about that.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:59 pm

I, for one, can't thing of a single time the rule was broken. The Saiyans only took about 10-11 months to get to Earth (for some reason this fact is severely overlooked) so Goku wasn't dead for a full year.

Aremke · Post by **Aremke** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:39 pm

So then I'm not imagining things. There really is a one year time restriction? Does anybody remember when and where that was established?

MyVisionity · Post by **MyVisionity** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:10 pm

Aremke wrote:So then I'm not imagining things. There really is a one year time restriction? Does anybody remember when and where that was established?

I remember in the Freeza arc when Kami-sama is talking to Kaio-sama and Kaio asks about the wish to bring back everyone Freeza killed. Kami then mentions the one year time limit. However, in another topic posted a while ago someone, maybe Xyex, pointed out that it may have just been for that particular case, seeing as how millions upon millions were probably killed at Freeza's hand, and that would be too many for ShenLong to revive.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:50 am

If I remember correctly, Tenshinhan and Chaotzu were dead for over a year and then brought back to life right before the Cell Saga.

Remember? Although it may have been filler... I'm kinda not sure?

-Yamucha, Tenshinhan & Chaotzu were killed by Nappa/Vegeta
-They train on Kaio's planet
-Goku beats Freeza, returns to earth, resurrects Yamucha
-A year passes (and it would have been around a year and half since they had died back when Nappa was a threat) and then Tenshinhan and Chaotzu are revived.

If I'm wrong please say so. I've only seen the anime thus far.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:15 am

-Goku beats Freeza, returns to earth, resurrects Yamucha
-A year passes (and it would have been around a year and half since they had died back when Nappa was a threat) and then Tenshinhan and Chaotzu are revived.

Erm... sounds like you're really misremembering things in this case.

Goku returned to Earth well after everybody was resurrected. Freeza was beaten, and 130 days later, Kuririn and Yamcha were revived. 130 more days, Ten and Chaotzu were revived. Throw in a couple months(I think) for the trip to Namek, plus a few weeks for odds and ends, and you get oh... somewhere around 11 months between everyone death and revivals. Cutting it close, though.

Also, I don't see where this idea about the one-year rule being a special case is coming from. There's nothing to imply that it was intended for that case only.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:15 pm

Goku returned to Earth well after everybody was resurrected. Freeza was beaten, and 130 days later, Kuririn and Yamcha were revived. 130 more days, Ten and Chaotzu were revived.

Well, that is two years. Namekian years, but years none-the-less.

Also, I don't see where this idea about the one-year rule being a special case is coming from. There's nothing to imply that it was intended for that case only.

Krillin, Roshi and Chaotzu were dead for over a year. Krillin died a few days (IIRC) before King Piccolo made his wish and Roshi and Chaotzu the day of. So even if the few days between then and when Kami brought the Dragon back were counted toward the year Krillin would still have been dead over a year. Chances are, though, that that year count didn't start until after King Piccolo's death, once the Dragon was brought back by Kami. So they were all dead over a year.

Kami then mentions the one year time limit.

IIRC, it wasn't Kami that mentioned it. It was Shenron himself that says so, a couple moments after the wish is made. I got the impression he was sort of checking how many that that would be. Unless I'm just remembering wrong....

vl · Post by vl » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:00 pm

Xyex wrote: Krillin, Roshi and Chaotzu were dead for over a year. Krillin died a few days (IIRC) before King Piccolo made his wish and Roshi and Chaotzu the day of. So even if the few days between then and when Kami brought the Dragon back were counted toward the year Krillin would still have been dead over a year. Chances are, though, that that year count didn't start until after King Piccolo's death, once the Dragon was brought back by Kami. So they were all dead over a year.

Actually they were brought back to life sooner than one year. I don't know what the exact dialouge was, but I know that Kami told Goku that they can get the wish right away and don't need to wait one year. That was right after Shenlong was brough back to life again.

Super DC · Post by **Super DC** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:44 am

I don't think the Namek dragonballs have the year limitation. They didn't have a rule of bringing back a person only once. Nothing of the sort was mentioned.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:48 am

Well, that is two years. Namekian years, but years none-the-less.

Er... what's this about Namkeian years?

Krillin, Roshi and Chaotzu were dead for over a year. Krillin died a few days (IIRC) before King Piccolo made his wish and Roshi and Chaotzu the day of. So even if the few days between then and when Kami brought the Dragon back were counted toward the year Krillin would still have been dead over a year. Chances are, though, that that year count didn't start until after King Piccolo's death, once the Dragon was brought back by Kami. So they were all dead over a year.

But in that saga, Kami said they could use the Dragonballs right away. He made a exception to the one-year wait for this case.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:17 am

Namekkian years are only 130 days. Just like the Earth DragonBalls have a 'one year' wait period while the balls are stone, so do the Namekkian DragonBalls.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:39 am

Exactly where is it stated that 130 days is equal to one Namek year? I don't recall seeing this...

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:50 am

Domon wrote:Exactly where is it stated that 130 days is equal to one Namek year? I don't recall seeing this...

When they're about to wish Yamcha back, Dende explains to Gohan that they will have to wait another year for the Namekkian Dragonballs to turn back from stone. Gohan freaks out, but Dende explains that a Namekkian year is only 130 days.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:08 am

I checked, but neither the line or the scene is in the manga. Perhaps you're refering to an anime-only scene...?

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:18 am

Domon wrote:I checked, but neither the line or the scene is in the manga. Perhaps you're refering to an anime-only scene...?

I haven't read that chapter - but I remeber hearing it in the anime.

I'm pretty sure it's specifically mentioned in the manga that they waited 130 days between wishes on the Namekkian DragonBalls.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:27 am

Yamcha's resurrection is only given through narration in the manga.

The 130 days thing is in the manga, but there's nothing that says it's equal to one Namek year. Of course, if I'm mistaken and overlooked something, do point it out and where I can find it...

Albit even if it is there, that would be only referring to the Namek Dragonballs, and not the Earth Dragonballs, which is the set that the one-year rule was applied to. Even that could be yet another means that the two sets differs.

future_trunks · Post by **future_trunks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:15 am

I would like to note that this question was somewhat answered in the podcast. This one year rule was offically established later in the series and was not an official rule at the time of Yamcha, Roshi, Chaotzu, and Krillin.

I think this is right, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:55 am

future_trunks wrote:I would like to note that this question was somewhat answered in the podcast. This one year rule was offically established later in the series and was not an official rule at the time of Yamcha, Roshi, Chaotzu, and Krillin.

I think this is right, please correct me if I'm wrong.

It's right. They didn't get into that one year thing until the Freeza saga. Not that it makes any major differences, though since Kuririn and the rest were dead for only a handful of days(er... wait, why are you grouping Yamcha with the rest?).

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