Dub/Fandom Stories from a U.K. Fan

[Gokuden553]

I decided to make this topic because I would like to tell you what my DB/Z/GT dub is like... especially for those who are curious about what it was like.

*Sorry if my writings joined up and all, it's mostly because I'm cramming it all into a nutshell... well you know what I mean

I come from the U.K

The DB/Z/GT I get to see is a very confusing one indeed so I will cut it into parts.

The U.K get the Ocean Group (Canadian) DBZ dub, this dub has its own composed BGM done by the Ocean Group staff and this is the reason why I got into watching DBZ also their VA's were very good and emotional. Their composed music has to be the best I have ever heard since they turn down their composed BGM eveytime a character speaks or starts fighting (meaning that I can hear every punch, energy blast and foot step... I can also hear the birds and animals in the background) Somehow when I saw the U.S DBZ dub it just didnt seem right (It had loud composed BGM and I couldent hear most of the punches or energy blasts ^^:) This series was edited (Like the edited funimation dub) but I did see the word Satan and see hercule with a ciggar in a few scenes :lol1: I got to see this entire series... and it will always be my faverourite

We also get the Blue Water (Canadian) DBGT dub, this dub had different VA's and they just didn't sound right? Most of the original script has been changed into weird quotes like "scumbag" and "clown" (Said by Vegeta a lot of times :sweatdrop: ) They did keep the original BGM in their DBGT dub however their was very few edits (Goku's nudity and the word Satan getting edited out) but they did leave all the blood in it I also saw all the episodes of the DBGT dub but they werent as good as DBZ was :sweatdrop:

Then we got the Blue Water (Canadian) DB dub, this dub has the same VA's as the DBGT dub did, I never got to see most of the episodes due to me doing collage work :sweatdrop: Like above their were minor edits (Mostly Goku's nudity) all of the blood and other stuff was left in... also the original BGM was left in it aswell Once again the script was changed and had weird quotes such as the word "Scumbag" (covering up a swear word or more) also little goku's weird one liner "Blast that green slug face, son of a slug tail" as said on Korins tower after he tells Goku that Roshi and Chaoitzu were killed by King Piccolo.

And now we had an even stranger DB/Z/GT Movie dub's done by a company called Bridge Studio's which had awful VA's which called Piccolo by his name "Big Green"

So basicaly DBZ didn't become popular in U.K at all (No DVD's were releced and no merchain dice, except some action figures around 1993 and the DBZ games)

If you have anymore questions about the U.K DB/Z/GT dubs tell me here and I'll try my best to answer them

[Duo]

Well, the frequents around here have come to learn quite a bit about the aforementioned dubs, and we make jokes and threads about the Bridge Ent. Movie dubs all the time...I imagine a certain DesireCampbell will be posting a fine photoshop job of his.

How do you feel the Ocean Actor's performances were for the Cell / Boo arcs when compared to the first 2 seasons which were syndicated here in the U.S. some years ago?

[Gokuden553]

How do you feel the Ocean Actor's performances were for the Cell / Boo arcs when compared to the first 2 seasons which were syndicated here in the U.S. some years ago?

Ocean dramatically improved over the years, from what they did back then... Pioneer made them not show blood on characters faces in the first 2 seasons but once they quit they decided to show it instead

Even the voice acting improved and so did the music.

[The Tori-bot]

How do you feel the Ocean Actor's performances were for the Cell / Boo arcs when compared to the first 2 seasons which were syndicated here in the U.S. some years ago?

Ocean dramatically improved over the years, from what they did back then... Pioneer made them not show blood on characters faces in the first 2 seasons but once they quit they decided to show it instead

Even the voice acting improved and so did the music.

Saban.

[Gokuden553]

How do you feel the Ocean Actor's performances were for the Cell / Boo arcs when compared to the first 2 seasons which were syndicated here in the U.S. some years ago?

Ocean dramatically improved over the years, from what they did back then... Pioneer made them not show blood on characters faces in the first 2 seasons but once they quit they decided to show it instead

Even the voice acting improved and so did the music.

Saban.

Oh your right it was Saban, though I remember the VHS boxes said Pioneer on them for some reason?

[The Tori-bot]

Ocean dramatically improved over the years, from what they did back then... Pioneer made them not show blood on characters faces in the first 2 seasons but once they quit they decided to show it instead

Even the voice acting improved and so did the music.

Saban.

Oh your right it was Saban, though I remember the VHS boxes said Pioneer on them for some reason?

Pioneer was the DVD distributor. Since FUNi had no cash at that point to release DVDs on their own, they struck a deal with Pioneer. The first 3 movies were done jointly between FUNi and Pioneer. See Podcast Episode #0009 for more details.

[Akira]

Someone posted a link awhile back on these forums to a Youtube video that showed the Ocean group intro theme for GT. It was the same as the Japanese intro, but had english lyrics. That was 100 times better than that "Step Into the Grand Tour" bullshit Funimation threw at the North American fans. Funimation did a fine job using the original Dragonball intro and adding English lyrics to it. I am envious of your "Dan dan" intro for GT. "We've got to find them all, got to find those Dragonballs.." Nice job, and they at the very least have my respect for such a neat variation of the original GT intro.

[Gokuden553]

Someone posted a link awhile back on these forums to a Youtube video that showed the Ocean group intro theme for GT. It was the same as the Japanese intro, but had english lyrics. That was 100 times better than that "Step Into the Grand Tour" bullshit Funimation threw at the North American fans. Funimation did a fine job using the original Dragonball intro and adding English lyrics to it. I am envious of your "Dan dan" intro for GT. "We've got to find them all, got to find those Dragonballs.." Nice job, and they at the very least have my respect for such a neat variation of the original GT intro.

Thanx

But it wasn't Ocean Group who dubbed the DBGT intro, it's Blue Water Studios who dubbed that theme song

[Tanooki Kuribo]

I would love if they released the UK version on DVD. Not that I hate the FUNimation version, but I love having different English versions of DBZ. I have the Pioneer box sets, the UK movies and of course FUNimations version.

Pioneer made them not show blood on characters faces in the first 2 seasons

Speaking of the edits from season 1 and 2...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_AiUaPRjmb4

[Gokuden553]

I would love if they released the UK version on DVD. Not that I hate the FUNimation version, but I love having different English versions of DBZ. I have the Pioneer box sets, the UK movies and of course FUNimations version.

Pioneer made them not show blood on characters faces in the first 2 seasons

Speaking of the edits from season 1 and 2...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_AiUaPRjmb4

Wow thanks for the link, I remember those edits and they were so awful... and that one with Turles's fingers erased from Gohans face give me the creeps *Just look how messed up Gohans face looks*

[desirecampbell]

Someone posted a link awhile back on these forums to a Youtube video that showed the Ocean group intro theme for GT. It was the same as the Japanese intro, but had english lyrics.

'He' was me!
And 'that' was this!

[Gokuden553]

Someone posted a link awhile back on these forums to a Youtube video that showed the Ocean group intro theme for GT. It was the same as the Japanese intro, but had english lyrics.

'He' was me!
And 'that' was this!

Gosh that brings back memories, I wish Toonami didn't get rid of DB/Z/GT all together

[Stoney]

I'm not an expert on the dubs but I thought we only had that dub up until some time in the Freeza saga. Then we got funimation's dub for the rest of the series.
I got to love the ocean dub too, I recorded a few of those episodes and whenever I watch them back it makes me feel something that resembles joy, I think.

Yeah that opening for GT was amazing compared to the US version. But our movie dubs were terrible.

[Gokuden553]

I'm not an expert on the dubs but I thought we only had that dub up until some time in the Freeza saga. Then we got funimation's dub for the rest of the series.
I got to love the ocean dub too, I recorded a few of those episodes and whenever I watch them back it makes me feel something that resembles joy, I think.

Yeah that opening for GT was amazing compared to the US version. But our movie dubs were terrible.

It's the other way around, we got Funimation dubs until middle of the Trunks Saga... and once the episode called "Goku's new tecnique" aired we got the Ocean dub all the way through up to the end of the Kid Buu Saga

[Godo]

That was 100 times better than that "Step Into the Grand Tour" bullshit Funimation threw at the North American fans.

That opening just was plain retarded. Not saying that being retarded is wrong or something, but the english DBGT opening is baaaad. Thanks god for the fast forward button.

[Gokuden553]

That was 100 times better than that "Step Into the Grand Tour" bullshit Funimation threw at the North American fans.

That opening just was plain retarded. Not saying that being retarded is wrong or something, but the english DBGT opening is baaaad. Thanks god for the fast forward button.

I think it wasn't properly translated and just made up, I remember seeing a translated intro on youtube... and it came out nothing like our DBGT dub intro did.

[Azure]

So basicaly DBZ didn't become popular in U.K at all (No DVD's were releced and no merchain dice, except some action figures around 1993 and the DBZ games)

Yes it was only one of the top rated cable shows in it's time slot for much of it's run, and I'm sure it's popularity couldn't have anything to do with Dragon Ball being on of the first manga Gollancz brought over here #13 is out now , and I suspect we'll carry straight on into Z. You can't compare the UK market to the American one, it's very different and DBZ was on in a pre freeview time. Almost no shows that are cable/sky only get massive status, even Pokemon didn't really explode until it went mainstream.

I assume Toonami's liscence for DB has expired and judging from what I hear they are disapointed with every show they've bought since to replace it. I also suspect that if they wanted to they could have paid for the FUNi/Ocean movie dubs if they had wanted to spend some extra money. But considering we got to see Gohan's wang pre-watershed I suspect no one at toonami ever watched it to check!

[Gokuden553]

So basicaly DBZ didn't become popular in U.K at all (No DVD's were releced and no merchain dice, except some action figures around 1993 and the DBZ games)

Yes it was only one of the top rated cable shows in it's time slot for much of it's run, and I'm sure it's popularity couldn't have anything to do with Dragon Ball being on of the first manga Gollancz brought over here #13 is out now , and I suspect we'll carry straight on into Z. You can't compare the UK market to the American one, it's very different and DBZ was on in a pre freeview time. Almost no shows that are cable/sky only get massive status, even Pokemon didn't really explode until it went mainstream.

I assume Toonami's liscence for DB has expired and judging from what I hear they are disapointed with every show they've bought since to replace it. I also suspect that if they wanted to they could have paid for the FUNi/Ocean movie dubs if they had wanted to spend some extra money. But considering we got to see Gohan's wang pre-watershed I suspect no one at toonami ever watched it to check!

I remember that scene it was in the DBZ movie "Strongest Guy In The World", I still have the DVD on me but I avoid watching it again because of Goku's low toned voice

[Bejiita]

You refreshed my memoery with a load of stuff there Gokuden553.

Those are some of the great facts about the Ocean dub I just didn't really realise to point out, it's what makes Funi's version seem so different, mainly where the BGM is so quiet it's like there isn't any BGM in some parts, you have to struggle to hear it, and by this you can hear all the sound from the surrounding area like bird singing.

I remember the marathon days when they showed the saga's, thats when Ic aught most of the series. The Ocean dub was the first way I watched DBZ in any form, and when you get used to it, watching Funi's dub seems like another anime altogether, it's definately the BGM that plays a part in this, it even disguises the different VA's for a moment, and it's wierd coming on here for the first time, mainly all people here have watched the Funi dub, and all taking the mick out of Ocean's dub, when it's the one we take as the original dub.

Anyway, I have always enjoyed the Ocean dub equally as much as the Funi dub, mainly on first viewing of each, but after watching the original Japanese series, going back to Funi's seems like your watching some kind of joke, but, going back to Ocean's, I get memories of the old days and just like it.

[Gokuden553]

You refreshed my memoery with a load of stuff there Gokuden553.

Those are some of the great facts about the Ocean dub I just didn't really realise to point out, it's what makes Funi's version seem so different, mainly where the BGM is so quiet it's like there isn't any BGM in some parts, you have to struggle to hear it, and by this you can hear all the sound from the surrounding area like bird singing.

I remember the marathon days when they showed the saga's, thats when Ic aught most of the series. The Ocean dub was the first way I watched DBZ in any form, and when you get used to it, watching Funi's dub seems like another anime altogether, it's definately the BGM that plays a part in this, it even disguises the different VA's for a moment, and it's wierd coming on here for the first time, mainly all people here have watched the Funi dub, and all taking the mick out of Ocean's dub, when it's the one we take as the original dub.

Anyway, I have always enjoyed the Ocean dub equally as much as the Funi dub, mainly on first viewing of each, but after watching the original Japanese series, going back to Funi's seems like your watching some kind of joke, but, going back to Ocean's, I get memories of the old days and just like it.

Wow so I'm persuming your an Ocean Group DBZ fan aswell, if so I've finally found someone who's seen the same dub as me