"Bardock" or "Burdock"?

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:06 am

So, is Goku's father's name "Bardock" or "Burdock"?

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:40 am

Daimao & Viz's translations use "Burdock", however when it's pronounced in the anime it sounds like "Bardock".

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:09 am

Sebastian (SB) wrote:Daimao & Viz's translations use "Burdock", however when it's pronounced in the anime it sounds like "Bardock".

I wonder if it has anything to do with the long "ba-" at the beginning of his name. Wouldn't any elongated "a" be translated as "er"? That's pretty close to how we pronounce Burdock.

Edit- My fault here. I had just remember instances where elongated "a" could be translated as "ar" as well. So the mystery still remains...

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:14 am

well, how would one write "burdock" in katakana? Is it the same characters used for 'Bardock'?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:49 am

I thought "burdock" was the actual name of the vegetable, and "Bardock" is the pun on it.

Wiki! "Burdock"

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:57 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:I thought "burdock" was the actual name of the vegetable, and "Bardock" is the pun on it.

Wiki! "Burdock"

I'm asking because there's a disagrement over the article title on Wikipedia.
One guys said:

In the Dragon Ball guide book "Dragon Ball Forever," Toriyama was asked about the characters and their names. Here's what he had to say about Burdock: "I don't remember him very well (this is understandable since he was only in two panels!). Was he in the original story? If so, his name would definitely come from the vegetable." (and then it says "(baadakku=gobou)" which is the Japanese word for burdock).

Can anyone verify that or a proper katakana of 'burdock'?

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:02 am

desirecampbell wrote:So, is Goku's father's name "Bardock" or "Burdock"?

Sebastian (SB) wrote:when it's pronounced in the anime it sounds like "Bardock".

It's "ba-dakku", in kana.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:03 am

"Barduck"

This changes everything!

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:16 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:"Barduck"

This changes everything!

Quack! Quack! Quack! BarDUCK!? I'm going to my local bar to look for a duck and I'll be sure to say hello, "Hey! Barduck!"

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:23 am

A funny sounding name in "Dragon Ball"? Man, that would be a first!

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:42 am

Olivier Hague wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:So, is Goku's father's name "Bardock" or "Burdock"?

Arg! I can't see the image! :'(

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:02 pm

desirecampbell wrote:Arg! I can't see the image! :'(

You can't? Er... Sorry, then.

Anyway, it's a Super Barcode Wars card, and it says "Barduck". And that works, in my opinion.
I don't think I've ever seen his name spelled in alphabet somewhere else, in Japan.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:15 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:Arg! I can't see the image! :'(
You can't? Er... Sorry, then.

Anyway, it's a Super Barcode Wars card, and it says "Barduck". And that works, in my opinion.
I don't think I've ever seen his name spelled in alphabet somewhere else, in Japan.

Oh, I can now. Somehow (my whole system's going to hell).

Yeah, Barduck. That's awesome. Any idea about how one would write burdock in katakana? (or kana, or whatever, I can never remember the names).

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:28 pm

desirecampbell wrote:Any idea about how one would write burdock in katakana?

That would be "ba-dokku". Sometimes, it's "ba-dakku" (i.e. the way the "Dragon Ball" character's name is spelled in kana), but it's far less common, as far as I can tell. And in general, they'd use the Japanese word ("gobô") anyway.

(or kana, or whatever, I can never remember the names).

When in doubt, you can just say "kana".

Magica · Post by **Magica** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:14 pm

I have an old action figure package that has some pictures on the back. It shows a Bardock one named "Badack"

EDIT: By habit I say "Baddaku" even though it's most likely wrong.
EDIT2: Barduck?

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:48 pm

Magica wrote:I have an old action figure package that has some pictures on the back. It shows a Bardock one named "Badack"

Japanese action figures? Were there other names?

Suupaa Gohan 2 · Post by **Suupaa Gohan 2** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:11 pm

As already mentioned, the Kana name is "Baadaku", or バーダク, which could be the pronunciation of either "Bardock" or "Burdock". I've always thought his name was MEANT to be Bardock, though, because if it were straight-up the name of the ACTUAL vegetable it wouldn't be a PUN...afterall, Gokou isn't simply "Karotto" nor Nappa "Napa", they're all slightly altered to become puns.

I think it's supposed to be Bardock, because Burdock isn't a PUN name, it's just the name of a vegetable. XD

johnny139 · Post by **johnny139** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:22 pm

I call him Badock. You know, since it's a punny name, and Burdock is just, you know, a burdock.

That's about it...

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:13 pm

Well, this thread kind of descended into a translation discussion. Perhaps the discussion should head there? I've already said a bunch of stuff about Burdack (as I call him, begrudgingly) that's probably wrong, but I've said it anyway.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:44 pm

Someone needs to photoshop that with a duck beak.

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