Was Cell perfect? What exactly was perfect about him?

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Was Cell perfect? What exactly was perfect about him?

Post by nickzambuto » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:37 pm

Dr. Gero's ambition was to create a perfect fighter and Gero is the one who started all this perfect talk. It's not something Cell made up on his own. But did Gero have any scientific basis on why this creation would be "perfect"? Or does it mean nothing and Gero only wanted to create a cool name?

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Post by Melee_Sovereign » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:06 pm

Yes he's perfect! Have you seen his jaw line?!

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Post by SupremeKai25 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:16 pm

Nothing was perfect about him, but since Gero was just a lowly mortal scientist, he thought Cell was the epitome of perfection. You have to consider that Gero was just a mere earthling, he spent the entirety of his pathetic existence on one planet, so you can't expect him to have a general understanding of just what kind of fighters there are out there in the cosmos. If he saw any of the new characters from Super, he'd eat his words.
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Post by precita » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:21 pm

Considering how 17 increased in strength, had Cell never been killed or not been evil, he would have been at Super Saiyan Blue levels of power now.

Remember Cell has both Saiyan and Freeza's cells in him, now imagine Super Saiyan Blue + Golden Freeza....he literally would have been unstoppable.

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Post by mute_proxy » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:24 pm

He was the best version of himself, so I guess in that sense he was perfect.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:49 pm

Cell is the perfect warrior in many ways.

At his core cell is a genetically created organism, formed from the DNA and selected traits of the strongest warriors known at the time. All of whom were in fact alien or of alien decent. In terms of genetics' alone Cell puts all to shame, he has all the racial traits of saiyans, namekians and Frieza Clan combined, meaning he can survive things that would be lethal to anyone else, perfectly heal from it and grow stronger. He can also survive in any in environment without the use of ki. Then factor in many of these aspects have been enhanced like his regeneration. That makes him the the toughest to kill character outside of beings with magic or god power enhanced bodies.

Then look at his abilities. He has the collective fighting skills and intelligence of many battled hardened warriors, which makes for a bastard of a person to fight becuase not only dose he know everything you do and the best fighters you ever had fought (from Goku's perspective), but his collective knowledge allows him to improve his tactics making him more unpredictable. Then combine that with his total lack of morals and you have got a nightmare of a warrior on your hands.

While Cell never improves on any of his copied abilites, he doesn't really need to. He's got a very wide range of attacks that he can apply at any time making him very versatile.

Thats what make's him the perfect warrior. He's got everything stacked in his favour.

That said I've often voiced that some people may over estimate just how much potential Cell has. While his potential for growth very easily puts Frieza to shame, we must not forget that Cell is not a direct clone. He's a being created from their DNA, i.e. certain traits were selected and cultivated, while others were rejected. The fact Cell looks more like an insects then any of the races he takes DNA from is the most glaring proof of this. The computer in Gero's lab didn't just dump all the DNA together to see what would come out. As a result we cannot say for shore, in a post Super world, if Cell can achieve god ki or attain a more powerful form like Golden Frieza though training, at least within the cannon of the original manga or that of future works.

So with that in mind Cell was the Perfect Lifeform/Warrior, for the time he appears. Even in the original manga he's quickly outclassed by Buu who's superior regeneration and absorption power combined with his ability to learn new attacks after seeing them just once put Cell to shame.

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Post by ZodiacBeast » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:20 pm

I do wish that we knew more about Cell's physiology and DNA. Did Gero design him so that he has improved spatial sense? Does he have "perfect" balance? I think Gero would have thrown in any improvement that he could.

Lol Cell is a Newtype.

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:31 am

Cell saw himself as the ultimate being. His final form is "perfect," because how could anything be better than him? Also, just look at him! How could you improve on this sexy bug man robot...thing?

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Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:25 am

Considering how strong No.17 became and that Cell has Saiyan potential to growth and an outstanding life force like Freeza, I could definitely see him nearing God of Destruction level with some training or abusing near death experience.

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Post by coola » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:08 pm

His biggest flaw was lack of purpose, after he achieved his Perfect form, he basically had nothing left, with made him do same mistakes Vegeta and others did, fight with everyone at max strength.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:37 pm

coola wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:08 pm His biggest flaw was lack of purpose, after he achieved his Perfect form, he basically had nothing left, with made him do same mistakes Vegeta and others did, fight with everyone at max strength.
This is a very good point and something I wish could be explored more. He was created to become perfect, he was never programmed as far as know, to kill Goku. It's only his desire to test his power and the wish's of Gero that lead him to that idea.

Really wonder what Cell would do if he had won. Yes he could go on a little rampage and destroy parts of the universe but he's going to get bored in no time. What dose one do when they have achieved everything they wanted in life? In fact what they were made to do. Gero likely never gave any thought to what Cell should do after he achieved perfection. Hell Gero likely never expected to be alive when Cell was born originally.

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:06 pm

coola wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:08 pm Really wonder what Cell would do if he had won. Yes he could go on a little rampage and destroy parts of the universe but he's going to get bored in no time. What dose one do when they have achieved everything they wanted in life? In fact what they were made to do. Gero likely never gave any thought to what Cell should do after he achieved perfection. Hell Gero likely never expected to be alive when Cell was born originally.
My little MasakoX style what-if idea is that after winning, Cell wanders the universe, looking for someone to challenge him. But after touring multiple planets and finding them lacking, he comes to the conclusion that the only way he's going find a worthy challenger is if he makes one. So he creates more Cell Juniors and unleashes them on a populated planet. They absorb the lifeforms of the planet to become stronger.

After a few years, once the Cell Juniors have grown to full size (which, despite the Super manga showing them as child-sized, I assume they do eventually) Cell returns to hold a tournament. The Juniors fight to the death, with the strongest surviving to the end to fight their daddy. Finally, Cell has his perfect challenge. But it turns out he might have bitten off more than he could chew, and he loses to his own creation.

Then the Cell Junior repeats what his father did, finding a populated planet to release his spawn into. Each generation becomes more powerful than the last. Eventually, however, Beerus wakes up. He's disappointed to learn that the Super Saiyan God he dreamed about could no longer be, because Cell killed the last remaining Saiyans on Earth. He's equally pissed to learn that these bug men have been wiping out entire civilizations while he was asleep. So he locates the planet these Cell spawn are hanging out on and annihilates them without any trouble.

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Post by Matches Malone » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:04 pm

If you had the DNA of the universe's strongest warriors (except Buu, the 12 destroyers, the 12 angles, the grand priest, Hit, Toopo, Jiren, Broly, Moro), wouldn't you consider yourself perfect ?

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Post by precita » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:15 pm

Eventually one of the videogames or Heroes will do "Golden Cell Super Saiyan Blue."

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Post by Nodeo-Franvier » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:38 am

Lord Frieza wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:37 pm
coola wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:08 pm His biggest flaw was lack of purpose, after he achieved his Perfect form, he basically had nothing left, with made him do same mistakes Vegeta and others did, fight with everyone at max strength.
This is a very good point and something I wish could be explored more. He was created to become perfect, he was never programmed as far as know, to kill Goku. It's only his desire to test his power and the wish's of Gero that lead him to that idea.

Really wonder what Cell would do if he had won. Yes he could go on a little rampage and destroy parts of the universe but he's going to get bored in no time. What dose one do when they have achieved everything they wanted in life? In fact what they were made to do. Gero likely never gave any thought to what Cell should do after he achieved perfection. Hell Gero likely never expected to be alive when Cell was born originally.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:41 am

Cell was made to be the ultimate fighting machine. A fail-proof creation of Dr. Gero.

He has the cells of the best fighters (Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, King Cold) within his scope.
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Post by Anonymous Friend » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:01 pm

As far as Z is concerned, his only challenge would be Buu. And if Cell had decided to destroy Earth after the tourney, that would be gone. Many of the dieties seemed fine with letting Freeza do whatever he wanted, so they probably wouldn't have interfered with Cell. Cell might have found and taken over the Freeza army, potentially tasking them to find a suitable challenge. At some point he might have bumped into Beerus. The outcome of which would depend on Beerus' mood. GT says that Baby was still out there.
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Post by TobyS » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:50 am

Anonymous Friend wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:01 pm As far as Z is concerned, his only challenge would be Buu. And if Cell had decided to destroy Earth after the tourney, that would be gone. Many of the dieties seemed fine with letting Freeza do whatever he wanted, so they probably wouldn't have interfered with Cell. Cell might have found and taken over the Freeza army, potentially tasking them to find a suitable challenge. At some point he might have bumped into Beerus. The outcome of which would depend on Beerus' mood. GT says that Baby was still out there.
Was baby finished? If he destroys M2 or whatever before that he'd be ok?

A cell possessed baby would be lethal.

Dabra possibly gives him a challenge stone spit is the only worry.

Wonder if babidi could posses him or whether he could resist like vegeta. A baby cell possessed by babidi would be nuts. Only Beerus could beat that

If he frees Moro he'd have trouble unless he kills Moro very fast and years before super where he's still weaker.

He's able to kill Broly if he doesn't kill paragus first he may even then be able to it to safety and come back for Broly when Broly has calmed down
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Post by Desassina » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:11 am

Cell was perfect, because in little to no time, he had children that were just like him. Piccolo Daimao had no such feat, except when he spun himself off, and lived to see his own growth. Cell was a narcisist, however, while Piccolo did it for survival.

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