Episode #0056 (17 December 2006)

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Episode #0056 (17 December 2006)

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:35 pm

Episode #0056 (download MP3)
34:41; 64 kbps, mono; 15.8 MB

Episode #0056! VegettoEX, Meri, and Julian take the time out this holiday season to catch up on e-mail from the listeners! A batch of questions related to parodies, characters, games, and more round out the submissions. Referenced sites: Whee! Go ahead and grab it. Big thanks to godofchaos for hosting the disgusting *fifty-six* episodes, now.

w00t! Always nice to catch up with everyone and answer some questions. Don't feel bad if we didn't get around to you... we're still sitting on what appears to be hundreds of questions :P. We'll get to you! Hopefully you found some items of interest here, though!

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Post by kvon » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:44 pm

I'm listening the podcast right now, and guess what? My week's been really crazy as well. I have a bunch of finals starting this week and I have to play quite a few pieces of music for juries (music major), so I can kind of relate to Julian's situation. Tiring indeed! :evil:

I'll post some comments after I finish listening. Later!
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Post by DaemonCorps » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:41 pm

Wow, I completely forgot about the podcast this week! Finals will do that to a guy, I guess... (And yay for Meri having $200 more :) )

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Post by TAS » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:11 pm

Just finished listening to it and gotta mention something about the Sparking Neo stuff.

First off Julian is/was right about the fact that people too often take something as a personal attack whenever something they don't like is criticized, or rather don't really seem to understand how reviews work for that matter.

Now with most major reviewers I've found that whatever they're reviewing is held against the absolute BEST game(s) they've ever played, so whatever game in question they're reviewing basicly needs to match that of "the best" or go beyond it to be considered great. Like if the reviewer has seen better graphics, better mechanics, camera system, etc, and they play a game that has worse examples then the best they've seen then that's automaticaly a negative to them, as they know better can be achieved.

^This style of reviewing is even how Mike basicly looked at Sparking Neo. Note how Mike has played (what he considers) better fighting games (Street Fighter Alpha 3, etc) so if something can't come close to what the individual knows as being good, then it's dissapointing, because they know the game(s) can achieve better.

This is exactly how I feel about it too. They need to stop giving all these DB/Z/GT games a production time of less then a year, and put the time and money into a game for once to finally give us at least one truly great DB/Z/GT game. I mean look at the Smash Brothers games, or Resident Evil 4, or God of War, or Zelda: Twighlight Princess, etc, ie things that really benefit from the amount of work put into them, or rather are perfect examples of what a decent production time can achieve, because note how all of those games I just listed are going to be remembered for far longer and held in a higher regard then any of the current DB/Z/GT games ever will, as they just keep putting ones out year after year in the same fashion that sports games are done in.
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Also as far as Sparking's "look and feel being the best match to that of the show" I've never felt that it's actual look is better then Budokai's or Super's, as it's done in a fan arty type style, while Budokai 3 matches the late DBZ (TOEI) style with it's designs/graphics. Not to mention stuff like the Kaioken (and just about every other attack, transformation, etc) look (or are animated) a hellva lot better in Budokai then in Sparking. However as far as the actual "feel" goes, then yeah Sparking does a better job of recreating the show then the others.

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Post by Peabo » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:08 pm

Great podcast as usual! Is there a youtube movie of the SNL Dragon Ball parody? I'd love to see it, but I live in the UK and we don't get that program over here :(

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Post by TAS » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:20 pm

Is there a youtube movie of the SNL Dragon Ball parody? I'd love to see it, but I live in the UK and we don't get that program over here
I was looking for it too, but found out it was removed from You Tube due to legal reasons.

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Post by fps_anth » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:42 pm

Thank you for answering that Sparking Neo question. I know a lot of people who are pissed of at you guys for your OPINION of the game. I really enjoy Sparking Neo, in fact, I'm playing it right now. Sure, you guys like Super Dragon Ball Z better, but I'm not complaining. It is only opinion, not fact. I remember seeing a bunch of n00bs complaining over your review, and I just felt like punching them.

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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:49 pm

My Best Buy has Naruto 4 and the original Jump in stock right now! I have a great, great site that is local and, well, see for yourself: National Console Support. I would definately recommend this site. :)
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:12 am

WOW! There IS a sixth Yotsubato volume! That's awesome. I must pick it (along with volume four) up next time I'm in NY.


Also, the Best Buy you're talking about that has the Jump DS game, is it the one out past Quakerbridge Mall; the one in Princeton? If so I'm thinking of purchasing a copy.
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Post by Adey » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:39 am

Great podcast, I liked how it focused on emails. Poor Mike not having Jotaro! He's possibly my most played character apart from Dio!

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Post by Phred » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:30 am

Huh, I always thought the blue water/ocean group dub in Canada was more or less an attempt to meet the requirement the government places on television/radio stations for Canadian content.
It seems to count if it's dubbed in Canada by Canadians.
Otherwise we wouldn't have so much Ocean Group anime.
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Post by Adey » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:47 pm

Here, from about the episode where Android 18 starts to fight Vegeta, then it switched to the Ocean group instead of Funimation. Then for about 2 episodes randomly when Gotenks was fighting Buu it changed back to Funimation, but then back again.

Our DB and DBGT was handled by Blue Water all the way through too.

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Post by TAS » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:51 pm

Yeah the people who watched it Canada/Europe from what I've heard got really screwed over with it all as it would often switch back and fourth, not to mention there's like an entire season or two of DBZ that Ocean Group didn't get to dub at all, which is why it would sometimes switch back and fourth.

I really do think that OG should get to the chance to do it all over again for those markets, because as much as I'd love a US/American re-dub, due to the overall crappy way FUNimation handled the entirety of DB/Z/GT overall, I doubt will/would ever happen, but given how bad the whole situation was in Canada/Europe it be nice for those regions to get their own specific dub (that's uncut and consistent, ie re-dub/redo) with Ocean Group and have Pioneer publish it again as they've always done a great distribution job to me (great packaging designs, etc)

And yeah Blue Water handled DB and GT.

I actually just watched the last Blue Water GT dub on You Tube after hearing the pod cast and good lord it was pretty terrible given that apparently none of the OG actors were invovled with it except Saffron Henderson (Gohan) who voiced Kid Goku, however it was great in that the dialogue was a lot closer to the Japanese version then FUNi's and it also used the original Japanese music too, which is always better.

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Post by Phred » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:31 pm

But why dub it "World Martial Arts Tournament" in Dragon Ball and then dub it "Number one Under the Heavens Martial arts Tournament" in GT? Did they know that both were the same thing? Silly Blue Water
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Post by desirecampbell » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:49 pm

Phred wrote:But why dub it "World Martial Arts Tournament" in Dragon Ball and then dub it "Number one Under the Heavens Martial arts Tournament" in GT? Did they know that both were the same thing? Silly Blue Water
That reminds me, didn't they call it 'number one under the sun' (my favourite name for the tenka'ichi budokai) in Z? I'm sure I saw that on YTV, though I'd be hard pressed to saw which dub that would've been - or even what saga.

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Post by Adey » Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:26 pm

I've always wanted Ocean Group voices to be optional in a DBZ videogame, I know it'll never, ever happen, but it would be nice, there are quite a few voices I prefer over Funi's. I also remember our SSJ2 Gohan's transforming scene (Cell Saga) to have not been messed around with like Funimations was, the footage was all (unneccesarily) rearranged horribly.

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Post by gobgob » Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:20 pm

Hey ya'll. This is my first post! Wii!! Anyway, I found the SNL parody on youtube. It's under TV Funhouse- Kobayashi. Freakin' hilarious! I wonder if there were any legal repercussions?

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Post by Kirbopher » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:14 am

The EvilGamerX impression was totally the highlight of the episode for me XD; (I say this as a fellow Long Islander accent).

If you guys are able to pull anything off for next weekend, I look forward to it. In any case, hope all three of you have some Merry Christmases-es-es-es.

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Post by QuantumDestiny » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:45 am

*spits out drink* :shock: Dang, you guys get some pretty funky e-mails. The one about that guy ranting about not having a DBZ girlfriend left me pretty 'what the heck!?' Wow! Looking forward to more stuff from fans of the podcast LOL!

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Post by desirecampbell » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:28 am

QuantumDestiny wrote:*spits out drink* :shock: Dang, you guys get some pretty funky e-mails. The one about that guy ranting about not having a DBZ girlfriend left me pretty 'what the heck!?' Wow! Looking forward to more stuff from fans of the podcast LOL!
I on the other hand predicted such an event. Of course, I've also seen the destruction of my planet by 'meteors', so this premonition comes as no surprise :P

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