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Piccolo's fingers

Post by tinlunlau » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:01 pm

There was something that kinda got me all curious. In the manga, he clearly has 4 fingers on his hands while he has 5 in the anime. Why did Toei make such a goof-up on Piccolo's fingers?
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Post by Dayspring » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:14 pm

Old story. They just goofed the first time and remained consistent.
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Post by Olivier Hague » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:47 pm

You guys seriously think it's a goof? Give them some credit... ^^;

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Post by Taku128 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:29 pm

Hey, Toriyama goofed too. He is drawn with five fingers on page 154 in volume 13 of Dragon Ball, when he holds up five fingers to tell Goku that the fight will be finished within 5 seconds. The VIZ editor, possibly the Japanese editor too, even humorously notes that he grew an extra finger below the panel.
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Post by Metrite » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:30 pm

Perhaps they just like characters to have five fingers in the anime. Other characters like Cell's first form and some of Buu's forms only had two or three fingers in the manga but had five in the anime.

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Post by Olivier Hague » Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:37 pm

Taku128 wrote:Hey, Toriyama goofed too. He is drawn with five fingers on page 154 in volume 13 of Dragon Ball, when he holds up five fingers to tell Goku that the fight will be finished within 5 seconds.
That wasn't a "goof" either, that was a joke.
The VIZ editor, possibly the Japanese editor too, even humorously notes that he grew an extra finger below the panel.
That wasn't Viz nor the Japanese editor. That was Toriyama.

Metrite wrote:Perhaps they just like characters to have five fingers in the anime.
If by "they", you mean "Fuji TV", yes, they liked characters to have five fingers. Or rather, they didn't want characters to have less than five fingers.

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Post by Anonymous Friend » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:50 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:If by "they", you mean "Fuji TV", yes, they liked characters to have five fingers. Or rather, they didn't want characters to have less than five fingers.
They were afraid that some child may go to certain lengths to be more like their favorite characters. :lol:
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Post by desirecampbell » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:17 pm

wasn't there an "Ask Vegetto EX" about this? They changed a lot of character designs to a regular hand to make it easier on the animators - apparently it's harder to remenber who has three fingers, or four fingers, or a mitten hand, or a "penguin" hand.

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Post by Olivier Hague » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:13 am

desirecampbell wrote:wasn't there an "Ask Vegetto EX" about this? They changed a lot of character designs to a regular hand to make it easier on the animators - apparently it's harder to remenber who has three fingers, or four fingers, or a mitten hand, or a "penguin" hand.
I doubt that. Was that speculation, or did they have some kind of confirmation that's what went on?

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Post by Godo » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:44 am

Just don't even think about it. Piccolo is from Namek. At times he rips one of his fingers off just for mere pleasure, and then he grows them back when he wants to.
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Post by Kaboom » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:28 am

You know that one chapter title page or something from the manga, where Cell is standing in the middle, and a few of the other characters around him are flipping him off?

Toriyama should have had Piccolo looking at his hand, confused as to which of his four fingers to put up.
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Post by omegacwa » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:51 pm

I always just assumed that it was changed so the animators wouldn't have to remember who had four and who had five.

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Post by Olivier Hague » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:58 pm

Well, it's not like they were drawing the characters from memory alone (fortunately)...

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Post by Xyex » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:46 pm

I believe it was stated in an interview with someone that Piccolo and Cell and so on were given 5 fingers in the anime to make it easier on the animators. If everyone's got 5 fingers then they don't have to keep track of "did I give him the right number of fingers?" and can just draw the hand.
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Post by The S » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:00 pm

desirecampbell wrote:wasn't there an "Ask Vegetto EX" about this? They changed a lot of character designs to a regular hand to make it easier on the animators - apparently it's harder to remenber who has three fingers, or four fingers, or a mitten hand, or a "penguin" hand.
Remenber? Was that an intentional reference to a DBZ Engrish?
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Post by Duo » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:16 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:You know that one chapter title page or something from the manga, where Cell is standing in the middle, and a few of the other characters around him are flipping him off?

Toriyama should have had Piccolo looking at his hand, confused as to which of his four fingers to put up.
Haha, awesome idea. I love that image as is, but that would be even better. Maybe someone can fanart that.

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Post by Super Sonic » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:38 pm

Maybe it's like how in the Bleach manga Ganju's sister only has one arm, but in the anime she wears a prosthetic? Or would that be along the same lines?

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Post by Olivier Hague » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:40 pm

Xyex wrote:I believe it was stated in an interview with someone that Piccolo and Cell and so on were given 5 fingers in the anime to make it easier on the animators.
Hmm... I don't know.
Does anybody know what that interview is?

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Post by desirecampbell » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:56 pm

The S wrote:Remenber? Was that an intentional reference to a DBZ Engrish?
Indeed it was :lol:

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Post by Hawkuro » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:52 am

Taku128 wrote:Hey, Toriyama goofed too. He is drawn with five fingers on page 154 in volume 13 of Dragon Ball, when he holds up five fingers to tell Goku that the fight will be finished within 5 seconds. The VIZ editor, possibly the Japanese editor too, even humorously notes that he grew an extra finger below the panel.
Also, on panel 1 of page 155, he has 4 fingers again.
On Panel 3 he has five...
Then he has three again...
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