Question about Cell stealing his time machine.

[Crazy_vegeta]

Yo, whattup, I'm new and am a big dragonball z fan. This s*** has been buggin me for yrs, maybe yall dragonballz experts can explain this to me.

Cell came from the future right? He couldnt absorb 17# n 18#, cuz Future Trunks killed them. So Cell killed Future Trunks and stole his time machine to travel back to the past in the main timeline.

My questions:

1) If Future Trunks killed 17# n 18# why can we see Future Trunks going back to the future to kill 17# n 18# of him time?????

2) If Cell stole Future Trunks' time machine n killed him, how did Future Trunks manage to travel back to the past for the second time (android saga)???

3) Cell traveled to the main timeline, but at the end of the cell games we can see Future Trunks killing Imperfect cell.

4) I'm f****** confused. How many timelines are there? How many cell's/ trunks are there?

5) If there are more timelines how is that possible. Because the "original" is the time of future trunk but he went back to the main timeline.

6) How is it possible that there are two time machines??

PLEASE EXPLAIN....

TKS

[Kaboom]

Nooooo!

Not another timelines thread! Anything but that! Anything!

Mommy!

*curls into fetal position*

[Crazy_vegeta]

Nooooo!

Not another timelines thread! Anything but that! Anything!

Mommy!

*curls into fetal position*

srry about that. I'm new and this has been buggin me 4 yrs...

[VegettoEX]

Hi:

Please remember to always type properly on this forum, as outlined in the forum rules. Thanks!

To begin answering your questions...

(01) Trunks doesn't initially kill #17 & #18 in his own timeline. He comes to our timeline, gives Goku the heart medicine, goes back to his own timeline, comes back to our timeline (insert rest of Cell arc here), goes back to his own timeline one final time, and THEN goes on to kill #18, #17, and Cell.

(02) Multiple timelines. There are at least four. You have to remember that by Toriyama-logic, each time someone time travels, they essentially make another "branch" in yet another timeline... all of these timelines co-exist. Think of them as something like parallel universes.

(03) See #2, above.

(04) See #2 & #3, above . Also look for various threads on this forum. Timeline discussions are known to go on for pages, and pages, and pages...

In fact... I'll stop numbering...

[TriforceCaptre]

Well the DBZ world doesn't follow "Back to the Future" rules. By wich I mean changing the past doesn't alter the future of the person who traveled back. That should at least help a little.

Also a reminder to type properly and follow the rules. Other than that, welcome to the forums.

Edit: Whoops, the headmaster beat me to it.

[Crazy_vegeta]

Hi:

Please remember to always type properly on this forum, as outlined in the forum rules. Thanks!

To begin answering your questions...

(01) Trunks doesn't initially kill #17 & #18 in his own timeline. He comes to our timeline, gives Goku the heart medicine, goes back to his own timeline, comes back to our timeline (insert rest of Cell arc here), goes back to his own timeline one final time, and THEN goes on to kill #18, #17, and Cell.

(02) Multiple timelines. There are at least four. You have to remember that by Toriyama-logic, each time someone time travels, they essentially make another "branch" in yet another timeline... all of these timelines co-exist. Think of them as something like parallel universes.

(03) See #2, above.

(04) See #2 & #3, above . Also look for various threads on this forum. Timeline discussions are known to go on for pages, and pages, and pages...

In fact... I'll stop numbering...

thanks for the info, will read up on the rules.

how can I effective search old thread about time lines?
cause I tried the search option....thanks.

[Crazy_vegeta]

Hi:

Please remember to always type properly on this forum, as outlined in the forum rules. Thanks!

To begin answering your questions...

(01) Trunks doesn't initially kill #17 & #18 in his own timeline. He comes to our timeline, gives Goku the heart medicine, goes back to his own timeline, comes back to our timeline (insert rest of Cell arc here), goes back to his own timeline one final time, and THEN goes on to kill #18, #17, and Cell.

huh???, but cell said, the reason he travelled to the main time line is because Trunks killed #17 and #18.

He couldnt become perfect and Trunks timemachine was set to the main timeline, so I assume Trunks and Cell are from the same future timeline.

[VegettoEX]

You've stated you would re-read the forum rules, so please do so. You will not be allowed to continue posting with the style you are currently using.

Here is an old timeline discussion with many pages of information:

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=3554

[Crazy_vegeta]

You've stated you would re-read the forum rules, so please do so. You will not be allowed to continue posting with the style you are currently using.

Here is an old timeline discussion with many pages of information:

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=3554

Thanks.

[Xyex]

Yo, whattup, I'm new and am a big dragonball z fan. This s*** has been buggin me for yrs, maybe yall dragonballz experts can explain this to me.

Cell came from the future right? He couldnt absorb 17# n 18#, cuz Future Trunks killed them. So Cell killed Future Trunks and stole his time machine to travel back to the past in the main timeline.

My questions:

1) If Future Trunks killed 17# n 18# why can we see Future Trunks going back to the future to kill 17# n 18# of him time?????

2) If Cell stole Future Trunks' time machine n killed him, how did Future Trunks manage to travel back to the past for the second time (android saga)???

3) Cell traveled to the main timeline, but at the end of the cell games we can see Future Trunks killing Imperfect cell.

4) I'm f****** confused. How many timelines are there? How many cell's/ trunks are there?

5) If there are more timelines how is that possible. Because the "original" is the time of future trunk but he went back to the main timeline.

6) How is it possible that there are two time machines??

PLEASE EXPLAIN....

TKS

1) Because that Trunks doesn't go back to the time-line where Cell came from. He goes to a new 4th time-line.

2) Cell killed a Future Trunks that was going to make his 3rd trip back, to report the defeat of his Androids. Trunks second trip was 3 years prior to this.

3) That Imperfect Cell is from TL4, the Cell of the Cell Games is from TL1.

4) 4 Timelines, 2 Future Trunks', 2 Cells (that we see).

5) The original is the Time-line Trunks originated from, and then Cell. When Cell altered the past he caused a new Trunks to exist, one that knew of him. Thus Trunks going home made a new 4th time-line instead of going back to the original.

6) Same way there's two Trunks' in series (Future Trunks and the baby one). One is from farther in the future than the other.

[Super Sonic]

Well the DBZ world doesn't follow "Back to the Future" rules. By wich I mean changing the past doesn't alter the future of the person who traveled back. That should at least help a little.

Yeah. It's more similar to Days of Future Past in the way it worked..

[Crazy_vegeta]

Yo, whattup, I'm new and am a big dragonball z fan. This s*** has been buggin me for yrs, maybe yall dragonballz experts can explain this to me.

Cell came from the future right? He couldnt absorb 17# n 18#, cuz Future Trunks killed them. So Cell killed Future Trunks and stole his time machine to travel back to the past in the main timeline.

My questions:

1) If Future Trunks killed 17# n 18# why can we see Future Trunks going back to the future to kill 17# n 18# of him time?????

2) If Cell stole Future Trunks' time machine n killed him, how did Future Trunks manage to travel back to the past for the second time (android saga)???

3) Cell traveled to the main timeline, but at the end of the cell games we can see Future Trunks killing Imperfect cell.

4) I'm f****** confused. How many timelines are there? How many cell's/ trunks are there?

5) If there are more timelines how is that possible. Because the "original" is the time of future trunk but he went back to the main timeline.

6) How is it possible that there are two time machines??

PLEASE EXPLAIN....

TKS

1) Because that Trunks doesn't go back to the time-line where Cell came from. He goes to a new 4th time-line.

2) Cell killed a Future Trunks that was going to make his 3rd trip back, to report the defeat of his Androids. Trunks second trip was 3 years prior to this.

3) That Imperfect Cell is from TL4, the Cell of the Cell Games is from TL1.

4) 4 Timelines, 2 Future Trunks', 2 Cells (that we see).

5) The original is the Time-line Trunks originated from, and then Cell. When Cell altered the past he caused a new Trunks to exist, one that knew of him. Thus Trunks going home made a new 4th time-line instead of going back to the original.

6) Same way there's two Trunks' in series (Future Trunks and the baby one). One is from farther in the future than the other.

I get it now. Basically every time when Trunks goes back to the future, he does not go back to the future he came from. Instead he creates a new timeline.

[Anonymous Friend]

I get it now. Basically every time when Trunks goes back to the future, he does not go back to the future he came from. Instead he creates a new timeline.

Actaully, he even though he creates a new timeline, he doesn't go to the future of that timeline whne he goes "Home." He goes to the same future from where he came.

[Super Sonic]

I get it now. Basically every time when Trunks goes back to the future, he does not go back to the future he came from. Instead he creates a new timeline.

Actaully, he even though he creates a new timeline, he doesn't go to the future of that timeline whne he goes "Home." He goes to the same future from where he came.

Hence what I said about Days of Future Past. Kate returned to her time where nothing changed, but her and Rachel's actions kept the Marvel Universe from going down that path.

[Adamant]

4) 4 Timelines, 2 Future Trunks', 2 Cells (that we see).

3 Cells. There's the infant one in the main timeline that Trunks and Kuririn killed too.

[Xyex]

3 Cells. There's the infant one in the main timeline that Trunks and Kuririn killed too.

Oh yeah, forgot about him.

I get it now. Basically every time when Trunks goes back to the future, he does not go back to the future he came from. Instead he creates a new timeline.

Actaully, he even though he creates a new timeline, he doesn't go to the future of that timeline whne he goes "Home." He goes to the same future from where he came.

No.

Trunks goes back to his own time... normally. But the Trunks we saw in the series couldn't go back to his own time. Why? Because the Trunks that went to TL2 (the one that Cell killed to steal the Time Machine) had already been there. Thus he had to make a new future where he could kill Cell, instead of being killed by him.

[desirecampbell]

You know... I was just going over the timeline stuff - and now I'm debating whether or not to make a whole new thread for it.

[Anonymous Friend]

No.

Trunks goes back to his own time... normally. But the Trunks we saw in the series couldn't go back to his own time. Why? Because the Trunks that went to TL2 (the one that Cell killed to steal the Time Machine) had already been there. Thus he had to make a new future where he could kill Cell, instead of being killed by him.

The Trunks we see getting killed by at the Cell Games does go back to the timeline where Cell kills him and steals his time machine. It's just that instead of getting killed by him, he anticipates the attack and makes a new timeline branch where he survives.

[Xyex]

No.

Trunks goes back to his own time... normally. But the Trunks we saw in the series couldn't go back to his own time. Why? Because the Trunks that went to TL2 (the one that Cell killed to steal the Time Machine) had already been there. Thus he had to make a new future where he could kill Cell, instead of being killed by him.

The Trunks we see getting killed by at the Cell Games does go back to the timeline where Cell kills him and steals his time machine. It's just that instead of getting killed by him, he anticipates the attack and makes a new timeline branch where he survives.

Impossible. There would be two Trunks' around then. The one that Cell killed that didn't know about him, and the one that we killed Cell because he had known about him. Don't forget, that Trunks returned to his own time already, before Cell went back. Your way would make him simply stop existing and that doesn't work. The time-line had to branch as soon as the new Trunks, created by Cell's interference in the past, tried to return home.

[caejones]

Well, there's your answer, thread-starter: We're still debating it sorta.