Question about the Ultimate Uncut DVDs

Hitman Hart · Post by **Hitman Hart** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:58 am

I'm sorry if this question has been answered before, but I recently found the Ultimate Uncut DVDs on Netflix and as I've been watching the first two volumes, I noticed that despite the very low episode count, the picture looks extremely fuzzy, like an old VHS tape. Is this just because Funimation's masters had gone to pot by the time these discs were released? Also, if they asked, would they have been able to get access to the Dragon Box remasters? I don't know the logistics and such that go into something like that.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:32 am

Hitman Hart wrote:Is this just because Funimation's masters had gone to pot by the time these discs were released?

Pretty much, yes. EX did a feature on these discs, comparing them to the old Pioneer DVDs and the Dragonbox remasters, but bugger if I can find it right now.

EDIT: There it was.

Hitman Hart wrote:Also, if they asked, would they have been able to get access to the Dragon Box remasters? I don't know the logistics and such that go into something like that.

Not without paying more for them than they felt they had to to sell us this material, at least.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:13 pm

From what we've seen of the recent Spain DVD releases, they're almost certainly using the same video source (or at least incredibly close to) as the Dragon Box. There's no apparent reason why Toei would refuse to sell something to FUNimation that they've already sold to Spain.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:33 pm

desirecampbell wrote:From what we've seen of the recent Spain DVD releases, they're almost certainly using the same video source (or at least incredibly close to) as the Dragon Box. There's no apparent reason why Toei would refuse to sell something to FUNimation that they've already sold to Spain.

It could be that Toei doesn't want Funimation to get in the way of their R2 releases. Why would the Japanese fans buy 6 disc singles of something in which they could import Season sets with the same content and quality?

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:12 pm

Raki wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:From what we've seen of the recent Spain DVD releases, they're almost certainly using the same video source (or at least incredibly close to) as the Dragon Box. There's no apparent reason why Toei would refuse to sell something to FUNimation that they've already sold to Spain.
It could be that Toei doesn't want Funimation to get in the way of their R2 releases. Why would the Japanese fans buy 6 disc singles of something in which they could import Season sets with the same content and quality?

Why don't the Japanese import the Spanish DVDs?

Vegard Aune · Post by **Vegard Aune** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:32 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Raki wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:From what we've seen of the recent Spain DVD releases, they're almost certainly using the same video source (or at least incredibly close to) as the Dragon Box. There's no apparent reason why Toei would refuse to sell something to FUNimation that they've already sold to Spain.
It could be that Toei doesn't want Funimation to get in the way of their R2 releases. Why would the Japanese fans buy 6 disc singles of something in which they could import Season sets with the same content and quality?
Why don't the Japanese import the Spanish DVDs?

Indeed. And it's not like we'd ever get a 100% complete release anyway, seeing how Toei is too... something... to give FUNi the next episode previews. (I heard that those were absent from the spanish DVDs too.) And honestly, I don't see WHY japanese companies fear reverse-importation so much. What's the point in importing something from America when you've got the exact same thing available in your own country, only that you DON'T need a region-free DVD-player to watch it?

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:47 pm

Vegard Aune wrote:Indeed. And it's not like we'd ever get a 100% complete release anyway, seeing how Toei is too... something... to give FUNi the next episode previews. (I heard that those were absent from the spanish DVDs too.) And honestly, I don't see WHY japanese companies fear reverse-importation so much. What's the point in importing something from America when you've got the exact same thing available in your own country, only that you DON'T need a region-free DVD-player to watch it?

Indeed they are.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:11 pm

Vegard Aune wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:
Raki wrote:It could be that Toei doesn't want Funimation to get in the way of their R2 releases. Why would the Japanese fans buy 6 disc singles of something in which they could import Season sets with the same content and quality?
Why don't the Japanese import the Spanish DVDs?
Indeed. And it's not like we'd ever get a 100% complete release anyway, seeing how Toei is too... something... to give FUNi the next episode previews. (I heard that those were absent from the spanish DVDs too.) And honestly, I don't see WHY japanese companies fear reverse-importation so much. What's the point in importing something from America when you've got the exact same thing available in your own country, only that you DON'T need a region-free DVD-player to watch it?

The Season Sets and most other FUNi releases are Region 1, 2, and 4. They'll work in a Japanese DVD player.

If Toei was worried about Japanese fans importing FUNi's products, you'd think that this would be the first thing to change.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:20 pm

Vegard Aune wrote:What's the point in importing something from America when you've got the exact same thing available in your own country, only that you DON'T need a region-free DVD-player to watch it?

The product will be billions of times cheaper even with shipping. If we got the Dragonbox footage for the season sets then they would be getting anywhere from 26-39 episodes instead of getting 6 episodes for nearly the same price.

All Anime DVD releases from Japan are different in some way than the American releases but still, Toei is just like an asshole licking prick when it comes to their stuff in the end. And wouldn't Toei still get some sort of money from a foreign release? I thought that since Toei owns the DB anime no matter where around the world it would sell?

And I still don't know why Funi just didn't get better masters from Toei if not Dragonbox ones instead of what they did, but that's another story.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:32 pm

Huh... you know, it's possible that FUNimation would have to charge a ridiculous price on their releases in order for the dbox footage to be a profitable purchase. Hence, they made their own remaster. Note that I am *not*excusing their obviously stupid decisions, but it is a possibility.

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