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{{Infobox transformation
{{Infobox transformation
| name          = Super Saiyan Rosé
| name          = Super Saiyan Rosé
| image        = [[File:Super_Saiyan_Rose.png|thumb|300px]]
| image        = [[File:Super_Saiyan_Rose.png|300px]]
| caption      = The Super Saiyan Rosé form with aura.
| caption      = [[Goku Black]] in Super Saiyan Rosé form with aura
| jpn_title    = 超サイヤ人ロゼ
| jpn_title    = 超サイヤ人ロゼ
| rom_title    = Sūpā Saiyajin Roze
| rom_title    = Sūpā Saiya-jin Roze
| eng_title    =  
| eng_title    =  
| debut        = [[Dragon Ball Super Episode 56]]
| debut        = [[Dragon Ball Super Episode 56]]
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| allchars      = [[Goku Black]]
| allchars      = [[Goku Black]]
}}
}}
'''Super Saiyan Rosé''' is introduced in [[Dragon Ball Super Episode 56]] as [[Goku Black]]'s equivalent to [[Super Saiyan Blue]].
'''Super Saiyan Rosé''' is introduced in [[Dragon Ball Super Episode 56|''Dragon Ball Super'' episode 56]] as [[Goku Black]]'s equivalent to [[Super Saiyan Blue]].


==Name==
==Name==
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==Production==
==Production==
[[File:Toriyama-Rose.png|thumb|300px|[[Akira Toriyama]]'s [[Goku Black]] designs and notes.<ref name="DB30th"/>]]
[[File:Toriyama-Rose.png|thumb|300px|[[Akira Toriyama]]'s [[Goku Black]] designs and notes.<ref name="DB30th"/>]]
[[Akira Toriyama]]'s design notes for [[Goku Black]] indicate that Black was supposed to have a regular [[Super Saiyan]] form in addition to his Rosé form.<ref name="DB30th">{{Cite web|URL=https://web.archive.org/web/20161223002027/db30th.com/dbsuper/ani.html|Website=DB 30th|Title="Akira Toriyama's Art Unveiled!! 'Dragon Ball Super' Illustration Gallery|AccessDate=01 July 2016}}</ref>
[[Akira Toriyama]]'s design notes for [[Goku Black]] indicate that Black was supposed to have a regular [[Super Saiyan]] form in addition to his Rosé form.<ref name="DB30th">{{Cite web|URL=https://web.archive.org/web/20161223002027/db30th.com/dbsuper/ani.html|Website=DB 30th|Title="Akira Toriyama's Art Unveiled!! 'Dragon Ball Super' Illustration Gallery|AccessDate=01 July 2016}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|URL=https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/810186407813619712|Website=Twitter|Title=@Herms98|Date=17 December 2016}}</ref>
{{Quotation|悟空のような超サイヤ人になったり、悟空とは少し違う色の超サイヤ人になったりします<br>Becomes a Super Saiyan like [[Goku]], and a Super Saiyan of a slightly different color than Goku.<ref>{{Cite web|URL=https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/810186407813619712|Website=Twitter|Title=@Herms98|Date=17 December 2016}}</ref>|Akira Toriyama}}
{{quotation|悟空のような超サイヤ人になったり、悟空とは少し違う色の超サイヤ人になったりします<br><br><hr /><br>Becomes a Super Saiyan like [[Goku]], and a Super Saiyan of a slightly different color than Goku.|Akira Toriyama}}
This instruction was either misunderstood by the [[Toei Animation]] writers, or ignored, because Black goes directly from his normal form to Super Saiyan Rosé in the anime. In the manga, Black transforms into a regular Super Saiyan<ref name="ch19">{{Cite manga|Series=Super|Chp=19}}</ref> before moving on to Rosé.<ref name="ch20"/>
This instruction was either misunderstood or ignored by [[Toei Animation]] writers, as Black goes directly from his normal form to Super Saiyan Rosé in the anime. In the manga, Black transforms into a regular Super Saiyan<ref name="ch19">{{Cite manga|Series=Super|Chp=19}}</ref> before moving on to Rosé.<ref name="ch20"/>
[[File:Vjump-2016-11-Rose.png|thumb|300px|''[[V-Jump]]'' infographic about [[Goku Black]].<ref name="VJ">{{Cite magazine|Mag=VJ|Year=2016|Month=November|Date=21 September 2016|Title="Dragon Ball Park Monthly|Page=p. 77}}</ref>]]
[[File:Vjump-2016-11-Rose.png|thumb|300px|''[[V-Jump]]'' infographic about [[Goku Black]].<ref name="VJ">{{Cite magazine|Mag=VJ|Year=2016|Month=November|Date=21 September 2016|Title="Dragon Ball Park Monthly|Page=p. 77}}</ref>]]
Since [[Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan]] is described as being Super Saiyan with the power of a god,<ref name="RF">{{Cite features|Number= dbzmovie2015}}</ref><ref name="ep24">{{Cite episode|Series=Super|Eps=24}}</ref> anime fans were left with the impression that Black skips regular Super Saiyan because he is [[Zamasu]], who should always have divine ''ki'' as one of the [[Core People]]. This impression was reinforced by a ''[[V-Jump]]'' infographic published shortly after the form's anime debut.<ref name="VJ"/>
Since [[Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan]] is described as being Super Saiyan with the power of a god,<ref name="RF">{{Cite features|Number= dbzmovie2015}}</ref><ref name="ep24">{{Cite episode|Series=Super|Eps=24}}</ref> anime fans were left with the impression that Black skips regular Super Saiyan because he is [[Zamasu]], who should always have divine ''ki'' as one of the [[Core People]].<ref>{{Cite web|URL=https://redd.it/56vrk0|Website=Reddit|Title="Was I the only one who thought Super Saiyan Rose was considerably more powerful than SSB or is this article inaccurate?"|Date=10 October 2016}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|URL=https://redd.it/5dc1b8|Website=Reddit|Title="What is Super Saiyan Rose?"|Date=16 November 2016}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|URL=https://redd.it/5eoop8|Website=Reddit|Title="So super saiyan rose? Is that unavailable to vegetables and goku or what?"|Date=24 November 2016}}</ref> This impression was reinforced by an infographic published in the November 2016 issue of [[Shueisha]]'s ''[[V-Jump]]'' magazine ('''21 September 2016''') shortly after the form's anime debut ('''28 August 2016''').<ref name="VJ"/>
{{Quotation|'''超サイヤ人ロゼゴクウブラック''' ゴクウブラック版の超サイヤ人。その実力はSSGSSに匹敵!!<br>'''Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black'''—A Goku Black version of Super Saiyan. Its strength is a match for SSGSS!!}}
{{quotation|'''超サイヤ人ロゼゴクウブラック''' ゴクウブラック版の超サイヤ人。その実力はSSGSSに匹敵!!<br><br><hr /><br>'''Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black'''—A Goku Black version of Super Saiyan. Its strength is a match for SSGSS!!<ref>{{Cite web|URL=https://twitter.com/Terez27/status/1038866874589761536|Website=Twitter|Title=@Terez27|Date=19 September 2018}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|URL=https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/779076046628892672|Website=Twitter|Title=@Herms98|Date=22 September 2016}}</ref>|"Dragon Ball Park Monthly"; ''V-Jump'', November 2016 issue}}
This discrepancy between the manga and anime is difficult to reconcile, but in both cases, Rosé is presented as Black's version of Super Saiyan Blue. When Black first transforms in the manga, this exchange occurs:
This discrepancy between the manga and anime is difficult to reconcile, but in both cases, Rosé is presented as Black's version of Super Saiyan Blue. When Black first transforms in the manga, the following exchange occurs:<ref name="ch20"/>
{{Quotation|'''ザマス''': 神が超サイヤ人ゴッドを超えると青ではなく薄紅色になるのか!<br>'''Zamasu''': So when a deity surpasses the Super Saiyan God, instead of blue, his hair turns light crimson!<br>'''ゴクウブラック''':お前らのセンスに合わせて この姿を超サイヤ人ロゼ...と呼ぶことにしよう<br>'''Goku Black''': I will keep this in line with your naming customs... I shall call this state... Super Saiyan Rosé.<ref name="ch20"/>}}
{{quotation|'''ザマス''': 神が超サイヤ人ゴッドを超えると青ではなく薄紅色になるのか!<br>'''ゴクウブラック''':お前らのセンスに合わせて この姿を超サイヤ人ロゼ...と呼ぶことにしよう<br><br><hr /><br>'''Zamasu''': So when a deity surpasses the Super Saiyan God, instead of blue, his hair turns light crimson!<br>'''Goku Black''': I will keep this in line with your naming customs... I shall call this state... Super Saiyan Rosé.|''Dragon Ball Super'' manga chapter 20}}
Zamasu presents Rosé as simply being the next step past [[Super Saiyan God]], even though Black never uses this form. Black's line mirrors his line in the anime.<ref name="ep56"/>
Zamasu presents Rosé as simply being the next step past [[Super Saiyan God]], even though Black never uses this form. Black's line mirrors his line in the anime.<ref name="ep56"/>
==In-Universe Usage==
==In-Universe Usage==
TBD


==References==
==References==

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Super Saiyan Rosé
Goku Black in Super Saiyan Rosé form with aura
超サイヤ人ロゼ
Sūpā Saiya-jin Roze
Debut Dragon Ball Super Episode 56
All Characters Goku Black
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Super Saiyan Rosé is introduced in Dragon Ball Super episode 56 as Goku Black's equivalent to Super Saiyan Blue.

Name

Goku Black tells Goku that he followed the established naming convention for Super Saiyan forms when naming Super Saiyan Rosé.[1][2] In Japanese, roze (ロゼ) is used for the color pink, and also for rosé wine. The flower is spelled rōzu (ローズ).

Production

Akira Toriyama's Goku Black designs and notes.[3]

Akira Toriyama's design notes for Goku Black indicate that Black was supposed to have a regular Super Saiyan form in addition to his Rosé form.[3][4]

悟空のような超サイヤ人になったり、悟空とは少し違う色の超サイヤ人になったりします



Becomes a Super Saiyan like Goku, and a Super Saiyan of a slightly different color than Goku.
— Akira Toriyama

This instruction was either misunderstood or ignored by Toei Animation writers, as Black goes directly from his normal form to Super Saiyan Rosé in the anime. In the manga, Black transforms into a regular Super Saiyan[5] before moving on to Rosé.[2]

V-Jump infographic about Goku Black.[6]

Since Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is described as being Super Saiyan with the power of a god,[7][8] anime fans were left with the impression that Black skips regular Super Saiyan because he is Zamasu, who should always have divine ki as one of the Core People.[9][10][11] This impression was reinforced by an infographic published in the November 2016 issue of Shueisha's V-Jump magazine (21 September 2016) shortly after the form's anime debut (28 August 2016).[6]

超サイヤ人ロゼゴクウブラック ゴクウブラック版の超サイヤ人。その実力はSSGSSに匹敵!!



Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black—A Goku Black version of Super Saiyan. Its strength is a match for SSGSS!![12][13]
— "Dragon Ball Park Monthly"; V-Jump, November 2016 issue

This discrepancy between the manga and anime is difficult to reconcile, but in both cases, Rosé is presented as Black's version of Super Saiyan Blue. When Black first transforms in the manga, the following exchange occurs:[2]

ザマス: 神が超サイヤ人ゴッドを超えると青ではなく薄紅色になるのか!
ゴクウブラック:お前らのセンスに合わせて この姿を超サイヤ人ロゼ...と呼ぶことにしよう



Zamasu: So when a deity surpasses the Super Saiyan God, instead of blue, his hair turns light crimson!
Goku Black: I will keep this in line with your naming customs... I shall call this state... Super Saiyan Rosé.
Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 20

Zamasu presents Rosé as simply being the next step past Super Saiyan God, even though Black never uses this form. Black's line mirrors his line in the anime.[1]

In-Universe Usage

TBD

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 "Rematch With Goku Black! Introducing Super Saiyan Rosé". Dragon Ball Super. Episode 56. Japan: Fuji TV, 28 August 2016.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Toriyama, Akira; Toyotarō. Dragon Ball Super Chapter 20: "0 Mortals Plan". V-Jump, March 2017. Japan: Shueisha, 21 January 2017.
  3. 3.0 3.1 "Akira Toriyama's Art Unveiled!! 'Dragon Ball Super' Illustration Gallery. DB 30th. Retrieved: 01 July 2016.
  4. @Herms98 (17 December 2016). Twitter.
  5. Toriyama, Akira; Toyotarō. Dragon Ball Super Chapter 19: "Another Zamasu". V-Jump, February 2017. Japan: Shueisha, 17 December 2016.
  6. 6.0 6.1 "Dragon Ball Park Monthly. V-Jump, November 2016. Japan: Shueisha, 21 September 2016. (p. 77)
  7. Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F'. Japan: Formal Nationwide Theatrical Debut. 18 April 2015.
  8. "Clash: Freeza vs Son Goku! This is the Fruit of My Training!". Dragon Ball Super. Episode 24. Japan: Fuji TV, 20 December 2015.
  9. "Was I the only one who thought Super Saiyan Rose was considerably more powerful than SSB or is this article inaccurate?" (10 October 2016). Reddit.
  10. "What is Super Saiyan Rose?" (16 November 2016). Reddit.
  11. "So super saiyan rose? Is that unavailable to vegetables and goku or what?" (24 November 2016). Reddit.
  12. @Terez27 (19 September 2018). Twitter.
  13. @Herms98 (22 September 2016). Twitter.