Kanzenshuu

Are we saying it counts in this current fight ( the tail) because that doesn't effect elite Saiyans.

Something occurred to me in the shower the other day.
A bit of a stretch but maybe.... ??

Plot hole: Dragon Ball Minus seemingly Ignores the events of the Bardock special. Well I guess it is more of a continuity question rather than a plot hole.

Reconciliation: Bardock and Gine didn't send Goku ...

DannyDBZfanforever wrote: Beerus Vs Omega Sheron

Super Mega Debatable, only because we don't know Beers Full Power.

I just see forms as this.
Super saiyan< FP super saiyan < grade 2 < grade 3
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Super saiyan 2
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Super saiyan 3

Super saiyan < legendary Super saiyan < legendary super saiyan 3

Super Saiyan God

Super Saiyan Hybrid/ Oozaru super saiyan aka Super saiyan 4

Broly is nowhere near boo power in any of the movies

If we really want to talk about "if broly came back in GT, how string would he be?' Just Make another topic. Let's continue the SSJG discussion. I know its not my place to say that, but I'd rather not get this topic closed.

Would it matter? SSJ4 Broly would still get stomped by SSJ4 Goku.

Broly cant go SSJ4 anyway, just like SSJG it would be impossible for him.
I was implying it as a joke, I mean SSJ4 Gogeta could kill broly by looking at him. I just meant that is if the series continues, a lot if broly fans ...

At least GT didn't do this.... then they have a valid reason to make Brolys power maximum Which means if they do redo GT.... Oh no its possible...

GT can still fit between the Time skip because..
SSJG=Power up
SSJ4=Transformation
In the movie SSJG fused with gokus super saiyan state, which makes sense because there's times where goku just fights in SSJ when he could have used other forms *not just in BoG*

xmysticgohanx wrote: Buutenks >> 8x Fat Buu

Buu's really the only character that I don't have great knowledge about his power, so what's half of buutenks? Super buu? Or less than that.

Just came to mind.... I think everyone hates it when people think Broly is like a God. Five minutes ago I was looking at BoG stuff and someone said they think SSJ3 Broly would easily win against Beerus.... Yeah I like Broly.... But SPC would kick his ass lol. Stuff Like that makes me sad that their ...

Movie 8: Equal to FP Perfect Cell

Movie 10: Stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan but weaker than SSJ2 Goku/SSJ2 Majin Vegeta since Goku thought he an Paikuhan (who's not even SSJ2 tier) could take him in M11

Movie 11: Has to be weaker than his M8 self if SSJ Goten and SSJ Trunks could almost rival him ...

Thanks for the info.

Well jeez......now I feel dumb. When did I come with the assumption he hated it...*shrugs*

I'm pretty sure he's said it in a interview somewhere, I know for a fact that he likes SSJ4 though.

I'm pretty sure he's sees GT as a failure. He's likes SSJ4's design that's about it...

I saw some of the Japanese dub before funi but I watched the entire series in funi first, kinda hard not to like it after hearing the same voices for over 200 episodes lol.

9/10 times any dbz discussion goes to what is cannon or not.

RandomGuy96 wrote: Because no official canon exists, so anyone that says one does is either lying or misinformed. There's only fanon. Also, "canon" is usually used as "thing I like" while non-canon is "thing I don't like".

This.