Kanzenshuu

New match:

- Hypothetical Third Eye Dabura vs. Super Boohan


Dabura would probably win. It was stated that Gomah was the strongest villain at that time. And if let’s say that Third Eye doesn’t have a set power increase or level up. Dabura is eons above Gomah. He was at least Ssj Goku (Cell ...

1. I’d give more love to degetsu and Arinsu. Delve more in their motivations. As well give a back episode for Glorio and his connection to arinsu.

2. Eliminate much of the “filler episodes” and eliminate that whole Ginyu force rip off. They were unneeded. Instead put this love in the side ...

That's simply not true.

Anyone who read the manga knows Goku is weaker than Gohan and that Pure Boo isn't the strongest Boo. I won't bother debating something that's so blatantly portrayed.

In Super, I don't remember but I'll believe you.

In Daima, if you can point me out the episode where ...

The Demon Realm is selected to join in the Tournament of Power.

The Team:

1. Majin Kuu
2. Majin Duu
3. Glorio
4. Tamagami #1
5. Tamagami #2
6. Tamagami #3
7. King Kadan
8. Amazoness
9. Kadem
10. Marba


Assume that they have been training the entire time so scale them accordingly to that and ...

Super Saiyan 4 Vegito (during Battle of Gods) vs. Super Saiyan God Goku (during Battle of Gods)

No time limit for the fusion or Goku's god form. Vegito can also use Kaio Ken with Super Saiyan 4 for short bursts.

SS3 Vegetto would likely be enough. Vegetto’s base form is already an extreme ...

Cell Games SS2 Gohan vs Tamagami 2
Boo arc Ultimate Gohan vs Third Eye Gomah
Dabra with Third Eye vs Boohan


1. T2 wins. Was fighting a much stronger Ssj 2 evenly in Vegeta. Mid difficulty at most. With Neva boost? Low difficulty.

2. Gomah wins. Goku is stated by shin to be the strongest ...

King Gomah is probably around Buu-tenks to Super Vegito levels. But we will get more information by next week.

Nah, far from it yet. He's gonna be fighting evenly with SSJ3 Goku. A Super Vegito-tier character would be giving him the Buuhan treatment.


Goku is stated to be the strongest being ...

Duu and Tamagami #1 are low ssj3 tiers.

Goku and Vegeta ssj3’s are probably around Super Buu to Ultimate Gohan level of power.

King Gomah is probably around Buu-tenks to Super Vegito levels. But we will get more information by next week.

So, how do you people scale the Megas?


A kid one can over ssj Goku and vegeta. Probably need ssj3 or fusion to beat a kid megath. And maybe Vegito for an adult. As for the gigath, if they are even bigger, they are probably stronger. Maybe we would be reaching battle of gods level of power ...

Hellspawn28 wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:42 pm

Berserker1921 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:11 pm What if Cell went to the demon realm after destroying earth? Could he survive that place?

He won't able to go there because has no pointy ears and won't know the pin number.

For the what-if we have to assume he got through.

Namek saga Frieza vs Kraken


Well, if you take that scene literally. Either one of two things are happening.

1. Base Goku and Vegeta are weaker now after becoming kids and are incapable of beating the Kraken.

2. Base Goku and Vegeta are weaker than the Kraken because their aren’t just ...

Namek saga Frieza vs Kraken


Well, if you take that scene literally. Either one of two things are happening.

1. Base Goku and Vegeta are weaker now after becoming kids and are incapable of beating the Kraken.

2. Base Goku and Vegeta are weaker than the Kraken because their aren’t just strong ...

I'm surprised that the DB universe has a creation being. I always imagine the universes were created by some big bang that end up creating up Zeno and the angels.


A lot of the fan base assumed it was Zalama in the past or Grand Priest. And if Rymus is the counter opposite of Zeno. The real ...

This was a strange episode but in really good way.
Strange, because not only the pacing is faster than most previous episodes, things just didn't stop moving, both the plot and animation.

Constantly moving between different points of views - Majin Kuu vs Tamagami 1, Goku team scenes and Vegeta ...

I wonder who that Supreme Demon king dude is in this hierarchy? If he could order Rymus to create the multiverse then wouldn’t that imply some level of superiority to even the highest order of diety?


Something to note is that Shin/Nahare didn't know about Beerus, either.

So it's possible ...

Something to note is that Shin/Nahare didn't know about Beerus, either.

So it's possible that teachings on the Destroyers is a later teaching to apprentice Kaioshin, with knowledge on Zen'oh being considered part of that since he's a Destroyer while Rymus is a creator.

Rymus is the God of ...

Hellspawn28 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:03 pm What if Roshi train the others at Kami's Look Out for the arrival of Nappa and Vegeta?

Maybe would have become as strong as Yamcha or Krillin. And He could maybe survive using the mafuba. Which would be really useful in stopping Vegeta and Nappa.

Basil vs. Tamagami #3

Who wins?


Basil. He was fighting decently against a stronger ssj2 Gohan. I wouldn’t put it past him, that basil could give trouble to ssj vegito from buu saga or ssj god goku from BOG

Basil never fought Gohan.


Oh! Got him confused with the poison one. Buu’s regen ...

Hellspawn28 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:13 pm Basil vs. Tamagami #3

Who wins?

Basil. He was fighting decently against a stronger ssj2 Gohan. I wouldn’t put it past him, that basil could give trouble to ssj vegito from buu saga or ssj god goku from BOG

He was struggling against Glorio’s magic abilities not against his combat power. Glorio’s lightning attack is mostly powered by magic, like a certain Sith Lord.

But it forced him to turn super saiyan. And these guys could probably beat Namek frieza with magic.

That’s the point I’m making ...