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by Berserker1921
Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:07 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35367
Views: 1796845

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

New Fights

7/3 Moro runs the gauntlet.
Rules. No absorbing energy or stealing techniques.

- GoD Toppo, Sanbango, Ssj Broly, and Ssj2 Kefla
- Fp Broly and ssjB Vegito (Black arc)
- LB Jiren and SsjB Gogeta

Does he clear the gauntlet?
by Berserker1921
Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35367
Views: 1796845

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Honestly, Kefla ssj2 and omen 2 Goku were pretty powerful. They were still nothing to jiren. As was kkx20 and ssjbE from 123 and up was. But, that said. Kefka Ssj2 would lose to either Goku or Vegeta from 123 up. Any time before hand. No, she would beat them. She would even beat a fully rested kkx20...
by Berserker1921
Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35367
Views: 1796845

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

- FP Beerus vs current Omen Vegeta (yes, he unlocks Omen) - SS2 Kefla vs well-rested Top SSBKKx20 Goku and ToP Initial SSBE Vegeta 1. Omen would make Vegeta probably rival or come close to Beerus PL. I suspect that FSF (Forced Spirit Fission) is useless to Beerus. Or for what we know of it. It only...
by Berserker1921
Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3337
Views: 261056

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

What if Darbura became good during the Buu saga? How would he impact future events? Please no heroes or xenoverse lore.
by Berserker1921
Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:01 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35367
Views: 1796845

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Gohan (ToP) vs. Super Saiyan Rage Trunks Yamcha (Android saga) vs. Nail Raditz vs. Garlic Jr (movie version) Android 16 vs. Supreme Kai King Cold vs. Cooler SSJ2 Gohan (Cell saga) vs. Gray Buu 1. Trunks. Gohan performed some impressive feats. However, I think he is still high god tier. Trunks was l...
by Berserker1921
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:26 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35367
Views: 1796845

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Black Saga Vegito loses. Post ToP Vegito wins. Vegito loses. Jiren is between GoD+ to low angel tier. Vegito/Gogeta as of now, I think are below MUI level. Or Moro level. We don't know how strong are fusions compared to MUI level. It's up to anyone's interpretation since we don't have that much inf...
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:49 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35367
Views: 1796845

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

dragonball0900 wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:05 pm
Noah wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:47 pm
New match: (probably have been done for death):

- Vegetto Blue vs. Jiren
Black Saga Vegito loses. Post ToP Vegito wins.
Vegito loses. Jiren is between GoD+ to low angel tier. Vegito/Gogeta as of now, I think are below MUI level. Or Moro level.
by Berserker1921
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36157
Views: 2814881

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Does anyone think that shield Moro put up will allow Merus to go all out for a bit? Do you think Toyotaro would possibly narrate that shield to not detect people inside of it? I know Merus is going to stall so the Namekian can heal. How much power will he need to contend with a powered up Moro? Mee...
by Berserker1921
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35367
Views: 1796845

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

New Fights Hypothetical anime 7/3 Moro runs the gauntlet. Can’t absorb his opponents energy and can’t copy their powers. 1. Merged Zamasu (no immortality) 2. SSj 2 Kefla 3. GoD Toppo 4. SsjB Vegito (Black) 5. FP Broly 6. SsjB Gogeta (Broly) 7. LB Jiren 8. MUI Goku (ToP, will last for the whole fight...
by Berserker1921
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Shin didn't even know that Beerus existed before Battle of Gods. It's much less likely that he has any idea of how strong Beerus really is. Shin saying things holds little water, that is true and it could even be extended to mostly everyone, but the point of including certain comments isn't so we c...
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don’t think SsjB Gogeta was that much stronger than Broly or Beerus. The difference in strength between them was night and day. Broly literally couldn't land a single hit on Gogeta Blue. The fight wouldn't have been so one sided in Gogeta's favor if they were close in strength. Gogeta was faster ...
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don’t know. Maybe. But canon is confusing now. We have three canons. Anime, manga, and movie. Also, we didn’t have a Broly arc in the manga So, in anime, we have no idea. Manga, Beerus showed off his full power. And movies, it can go either way. If we count the fight from BoG movie. We don't have...
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Even then, we don’t know if that’s his full power. Yes, it was a death match. You’d think they would go 100%. But, some of the gods were not even injured. I think Beerus is still much stronger than he is letting on. But we I’ll have an answer in this newest arc. If Beerus fights Moro. The only god ...
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I still doubt that Broly is stronger or on the level of Beerus. This was Goku assuming. We have never seen a fully unleashed Beerus. Goku shouldn’t know Beerus full potential. Only Whis would know. And not once did he think or say anything to justify that. Also, Beerus, didn’t seem concerned or ner...
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:28 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Do you think Moro will reach angel level? Especially, with all the hax powers he has.
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:54 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

For in-universe statements I don't think it really matters who is saying them but that it's the author saying those things through them. In this case is Toriyama through Goku ranking the new character's amazing above Beerus. I mean, it's not really Goku going rogue and defying Toriyama. Characters ...
by Berserker1921
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:32 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I doubt Gogeta or Vegito are angel level as of now. In the manga or anime. I don’t think SsjB Gogeta was that much stronger than Broly or Beerus. I still doubt that Broly is stronger or on the level of Beerus. This was Goku assuming. We have never seen a fully unleashed Beerus. Goku shouldn’t know B...
by Berserker1921
Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3337
Views: 261056

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Here's one, Vegeta dies in the Cell games alongside Goku. Goku using his reputation askua for Vegeta to be given a body. Vegeta is allowed to follow Goku around as long as Vegeta agrees to behave. Assuming Vegeta behaves as he gets to fight Kakarot as much as he wants he agrees to this deal. How do...
by Berserker1921
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3337
Views: 261056

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

What if Vegeta trained on Yardrat during the time between Cell and Buu? Would "Majin Vegeta" even happen, since Vegeta would likely be stronger and have learned at least one of those nifty new Spirit Control techniques? The Forced Spirit Fission would have made Buu much more manageable. Or what if ...
by Berserker1921
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33067
Views: 1950993

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

U6: SsjB Goku= 10-12% with KKx10= 20-35% I'm not sure I understand how this works. Are you implying a logarithmic scale? snip If I took a shot every time you said "lol", I might be dead right now. Please let's try to have a civil discussion here. Just because the Base Fusions (allegedly) being stro...