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by TheSaiyanGod
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything”
Replies: 54
Views: 806

Re: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything.”

Yes, it was supposed to be a being that surpassed everything in the BoG movie. We know that in DB, no matter how strong a transformation is, there will always be some villain to match it. The Super Saiyan was seen as something legendary in Namek and in the following arc that form was overcome by sev...
by TheSaiyanGod
Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I have no reason to believe SSG was ever stronger than fusion honestly. It was only ever said fusion wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus. Ultimately, SSG ended up not being enough either. Goku said he never imagined that a realm of power like the Super Saiyan God could exist, and he could certainly i...
by TheSaiyanGod
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Do you think SSJ Blue and Beyond should never have been introduced?
Replies: 39
Views: 774

Re: Do you think SSJ Blue and Beyond should never have been introduced?

I like Blue. I just don't like the lack of a drawback or the fact that there are so many transformations being squeezed into the series. Gokuu and Vegeta should only have God and Blue at this point, no more Super Saiyan, SS2 and SS3. Furthermore, Blue should be a risky move that could backfire if u...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33305
Views: 2555568

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

This technique being so situational makes Vegeta's training seem like a waste. It would've been a waste if Moro's spirit-sapping move wasn't practically rendered useless or if New Namek wasn't restored. That's not what happened. It progressed the story and developed Vegeta. The situation presented ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33305
Views: 2555568

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Why are people acting like Vegeta did nothing with his new move because he didn’t beat Moro with it? One of the bigger complaints I'm reading is that it's too specific, but I can only see that as a good thing. I think I'll address that here: Vegeta's technique is super specific because Moro's techn...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33305
Views: 2555568

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah, I'm really not seeing that? Vegeta got knocked around some by literally THAT Moro that you're saying he backed up into 7-3, but he was fine??? He power drained THAT Moro and dunked on him. He was holding his own against a UI Omen+ level opponent and then you're saying add ssj3, maybe, level o...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Moro is pretty much in Jiren's league Those are just comparisons with Sign Goku though. Jiren withstood a point blank Kamehameha from Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku and wasn't really even that damaged. He wasn't even at full power at the time. After he powered up further then he was an equal match fo...
by TheSaiyanGod
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's when people start making math equations out of it is when I lose interest. Moro doesn't sound seem as strong as Broly or Jiren just yet at least. Jiren did this against ToP SSB Goku https://scontent.fssa3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106909655_2135985496545615_3731199999223380656_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106...
by TheSaiyanGod
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35047
Views: 1666908

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Oh I was talking about anime Jiren. Manga Jiren I think compares fairly good to ToP MUI strenght-wise because in the manga the technique is more of a martial arts move rather than a power up(while being both), even Jiren states that attacks taking advantage of the enemy aren't considered, by him, r...
by TheSaiyanGod
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Exactly “HOW” did Vegeta achieve Super Saiyan God while training under Whis??
Replies: 128
Views: 1710

Re: Exactly “HOW” did Vegeta achieve Super Saiyan God while training under Whis??

that really doesn't prove anything .. since at that time it was the only way to achieve that transformation .. I very much doubt that Videl (Pan) is willing to collaborate again at Vegeta's whim. What are they supposed to achieve by training with whis? the ritual is temporary ... it doesn't make se...
by TheSaiyanGod
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35047
Views: 1666908

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1) Omen Goku. Jiren would need his shirtless version, without it Omen beats him up. If Goku plays it right, he defeats him before Jiren can even attempt to break his limits. But probably lets him power up and gets eaten alive by crazy Jiren. My only doubt about this fight is how Jiren's strength co...
by TheSaiyanGod
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:43 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35047
Views: 1666908

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Moro arc battles

- Current UI Omen Goku Vs ToP Jiren

- Post training Gohan Vs God aura Toppo (manga)

- Post Yardrat SSBE Vegeta Vs ToP Jiren

- Prime Moro (battle against UIO Goku) Vs SSJFP Broly (no absorption)

- Post training Piccolo Vs 17
by TheSaiyanGod
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Exactly “HOW” did Vegeta achieve Super Saiyan God while training under Whis??
Replies: 128
Views: 1710

Re: Exactly “HOW” did Vegeta achieve Super Saiyan God while training under Whis??

Do you have any scan\reference\proof that "Power of a Super Saiyan God" and "God Ki" are different things? 2. In episodes 20 and 22, Goku and Vegeta explicitly tap into god ki (in their base forms) during training. Vegeta notes that it has an intense pressure, but there's no direct mention of god k...
by TheSaiyanGod
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:41 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Can't disagree, but seeing Moro simply performing like this with no powering up sequence, tells me that although weaker to God Vegeta, he is near his level. He completely thrashed SS2 Vegeta, even if you count that his telekinesis was magic based. https://images.mangafreak.net/mangas/dragon_ball_su...
by TheSaiyanGod
Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Considering that Mastered Super Saiyan Blue is fighting on an equal footing with a fusion (in which one of the components was already Blue tier) and a candidate for God of Destruction, then the gap between God and Blue is definitely big. And between God and Blue Evolution (used against Moro) it's e...
by TheSaiyanGod
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I've been reading earlier chapters of the arc and started thinking about something about the battle between God Vegeta and Moro. Moro said at the height of his power, someone like God Vegeta would've been an insect to him. Despite being old and weakened, Moro still appeared to be in God Vegeta's le...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Omen is not viable to Goku at this point so Goku is capped at completed Blue. Vegeta has evolved Blue as his cap. This Vegeta has surpassed Goku. Goku has already learned how to use UI Omen at will. If there are comparisons between Goku and Vegeta (as happened in this chapter), then Vegeta's SSBE w...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Do you think SSJ Blue and Beyond should never have been introduced?
Replies: 39
Views: 774

Re: Do you think SSJ Blue and Beyond should never have been introduced?

SSG Vegeta wasn't even a thing for Toriyama until the Future Trunks saga in the manga. We don't know that. Maybe Toriyama thought it wasn't necessary to depict the same thing with Vegeta. Let's keep in mind that there have been two mentions to Tarble now. Both Movie 14 and Dragon Ball Super Broly e...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Do you think SSJ Blue and Beyond should never have been introduced?
Replies: 39
Views: 774

Re: Do you think SSJ Blue and Beyond should never have been introduced?

But with DBS and now with the Broly movie showing Vegeta being able to access the God form despite having obtained this power through training, this is probably no longer the case, especially as Toriyama adopted SSG Vegeta on his own continuity (confirming that God form can be obtained through trai...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:39 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31822
Views: 1787424

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Omen is not viable to Goku at this point so Goku is capped at completed Blue. Vegeta has evolved Blue as his cap. This Vegeta has surpassed Goku. Goku has already learned how to use UI Omen at will. If there are comparisons between Goku and Vegeta (as happened in this chapter), then Vegeta's SSBE w...