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by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 7:00 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


Videl is not allowed to be strong because of sexism. Videl is not allowed to have her own agency and character arc that is about her as a character because of sexism. Her character is written to fulfill a sexist role. There is no telling any half-self-respecting woman that she is wrong with ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 6:56 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


Regular humans don't shapeshift, switch personalities and turn blonde upon sneezing, are able to launch death lasers, or... anything at all shown in Dragon Ball, really... Just saying.

And Videl is introduced as pretty strong, willing to learn new things and surpass her own limits... You know ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 6:31 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?



Do you mean Gohan being born with the powers that he had? They explained Saiyan culture that every Saiyan power level are tested from birth, there are those that are born with high power level and those that are born with low power level. Then we find out hybrid Saiyans has more potential than ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 5:48 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?



Do you mean Gohan being born with the powers that he had? They explained Saiyan culture that every Saiyan power level are tested from birth, there are those that are born with high power level and those that are born with low power level. Then we find out hybrid Saiyans has more potential than ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 5:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?



Going from normal human strength to Gohan level is far too big, especially with her limited skills that she knows.


I thought being literally born that strong was far too big a gap, too.
Yet, Toriyama did it anyway for a quick gag.


Do you mean Gohan being born with the powers that he had ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 5:14 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?



Even if it is a gag manga, it doesn't mean the story can't make sense. Lets assume Toriyama introduced something to get Videl from weak to as strong as the Z fighters and Saiyans, then people would ask why doesn't the Saiyan do the same as Videl.

Because if there's one thing Dragon Ball is ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 4:41 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?



Goku, Gohan, Kuririn, Vegeta and Piccolo were already strong before getting their potential unlocked. Videl is weak that is what makes her different. Even Granolah and Gas were strong before getting their wish for more power.

Present Gohan greatly surpassed Future Gohan, due to Present Gohan ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 3:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


And that's why I'm very glad that entire story got shafted, just so we could get even more Goku with Gohan and Videl becoming housewives afterwards. (irony)


Just because Videl didn't join in the 28th Martial Art Tournament in EOZ, it doesn't mean that she became a housewive in the manga. In the ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 2:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Daima
Topic: Which was the better sequel: GT, Super, or Daima ?
Replies: 341
Views: 187988

Re: Which was the better sequel: GT, Super, or Daima ?


I happen to like Daima quite a lot more and it's not even close. Both DBS and GT were massive disappointments. The problems people have with Daima, I do not share. Yes, Goku acts like a kid despite having the memories of being an adult. I assume the wish regressed his mind, not just his body. This ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 2:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


Back to the Gohan convo: Gohan didn't just "pull a sword", he trained to be able to pull that sword, and then trained to be able to wield it effectively and defeat Majin Boo, which then released an old God that did a ritual to make him stronger, which would definitely help with the whole ...
by super michael
Fri Apr 17, 2026 10:28 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


^ To add, the seeds were also sown through A) the arc cycling through a large cast of characters, and B) Earth having already exerted the greatest influence on Buu from guys like Mr. Satan and Bee. I don't find it even a little surprising that Toriyama saw the Genkidama as a fitting climax ...
by super michael
Thu Apr 16, 2026 4:35 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?

Goku might have beaten Kid Buu with his Genki Dama, but the victory wasn't his alone. It took the universe and the Dragon Balls to win that battle. If the Dragon Balls didn't revive the people on earth, restore Goku energy and the people from the universe donate their ki, then Goku would have lost ...
by super michael
Thu Apr 16, 2026 4:27 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?

I think we are forgetting something, Goku and Gohan doesn't have human physiology, since they have alien DNA in them. As for the humans they are not regular humans anymore, they are super human that have gone beyond the normal limit of humans. They can do things that no normal human can do. Even ...
by super michael
Thu Apr 16, 2026 3:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


“Saiyans get stronger after they get beaten up” is nothing more than a narrative shortcut. Your mileage may vary on whether it qualifies as an “earned” power up, but I don’t consider it any different from Goku drinking some convenient magic water to get stronger. Personally, I think it also ...
by super michael
Tue Apr 14, 2026 9:03 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?

Master Roshi retired in the 23rd Martial Art Tournament and Kuririn retired after Cell defeat, I don't know why they returned to fight. Plus they got huge power up from doing nothing but ordinary training. No magic or something extraordinary but plain ordinary training.

Master Roshi just watch TV ...
by super michael
Mon Apr 13, 2026 6:32 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


Nobody's saying Gohan had to win against Boo.

Boo could still absorb Gotenks, beat the shit out of Gohan, absorb Goku and Piccolo for good measure, make the situation even more hopeless, have Gohan lament that's his own fault for slacking on his training or whatever, force him to get creative and ...
by super michael
Mon Apr 13, 2026 5:58 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


Only Goku and Pan battled against the Shadow Dragon, that is until Omega Shenron came and it became an all out battle against good and evil.

It makes sense, because Trunks kept saying throughout GT that he's been slacking on his training. (irony)


I remember Trunks saying he shouldn't have ...
by super michael
Mon Apr 13, 2026 5:48 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?

I agree that Buu Saga Gohan character could have been written better, they know that their future counterpart died since they were not prepared for the cyborgs. So Gohan should have thought that another villain could come. Did they learn nothing when Freeza went to earth after the Namek Saga. A ...
by super michael
Mon Apr 13, 2026 5:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How did C18 not notice Frost getting behind Kuririn
Replies: 8
Views: 1701

Re: How did C18 not notice Frost getting behind Kuririn


Literally nothing , there's no reason why she didn't spot Frost casually walking to krillin and knocking him out despite being right on front of her


Not only that but Beerus and everyone from Universe 7 on the bench was watching and commenting Kuririn, yet somehow they didn't see Frost. It is ...
by super michael
Mon Apr 13, 2026 5:24 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 360
Views: 13864

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


Gohan getting a random power up by literally sitting on his ass for hours and then beating Buu would have been a horrible ending.


Unlocking potential is something that got introduced way back in Piccolo Daimao Saga. When potions and magic are involved, I don't see the problem there.
The ritual ...