Kanzenshuu

Yamcha is the biggest loser. Krillin had a decent amount of purpose until the Buu arc, and Chiaotzu at least had that noble, if futile moment where he sacrificed himself to take out Nappa.

No, Chaozu is a bigger loser than Yamcha. "Noble" moments don't mean shit in terms of your performance in ...

It's hard to say exactly what kind of father Vegeta was and how much interaction he had with his children. I wouldn't say that the time we saw him offer to take Trunks out was the only time he'd done so, any more than I would say the times we see Goku hanging out with Gohan or Goten are the only ...

This comic's been losing me but that bit with Toriyama on page 422-3 was kinda funny.

While that list is true, I can't say other characters are much better off. Vegeta just happens to stand out because of his attitude.
True, reminds me of a quote I read on a forum once, something like: "Vegeta stays losing, but who besides Goku (and occasionally Gohan) is really winning?"

Yamcha ...

This is the part where I shamelessly promote the fanfic in my sig.

No, but seriously, although a new DB series would be great in theory, I think we have to wait for Kai to fade off a little bit more. But honestly, I'd only be interested if it had an all new set of characters, something that took ...

Videl I can kinda see, but how is Mr. Satan's power overrated? As far I know, he's not seen as anywhere near the level of the Z warriors, but probably an above average fighter as normal humans go.

Anyway, I'd probably say Bardock. And Broly, definitely Broly.

Master Roshi in his prime vs Genkai from Yu Yu Hakusho in her prime (Spirit Orb and all)?

I think perhaps they can eat, but it's optional, not a necessity to function.

Total villain. He took and control of and planned to rule over all Earthlings, who had nothing to do with what the Saiyans' crimes.

I've thought about this before. I love Vegeta's character as is, but a female Vegeta would have been SO awesome (providing she stays as true to her male counterpart as possible). A relentlessly driven woman who delivers ruthless beatings and can take a good thrashing in equal measure, absolutely NO ...

Intergalatic civil war I'd guess. Like a bunch of different factions composed mostly of old minions scrambling for their piece of the pie and trying to establish dominance over the other warlords.

You could do some real creepy stuff with Gero as the main villain...like, "first-form Cell sucking bodies dry" level creepy. Granted, the whole section was a pretty dark arc as far as DB goes, but with Gero as an alternative to Cell; there'd be quite a few body-horror type possibilities.

I don't ...

I'm a fan of Trunks in all his incarnations (yes, even GT) so I can't say I understand the hate for his child version. I guess Young Trunks is kinda bratty but, eh, I find him quite amusing and not mean-spirited in the least. I like his spunky snark and that bit of cockiness, it's befitting and ...

Yeah, I've heard of that ending and I'm not fond of it either. While I'm sure there's always going to be a bit of rivalry between them (at least on Vegeta's end), it seems like a character setback to end it on that note. I pretty much disregard that ending. :?

It's true that most of the characters ...

Great thoughts from everyone, thanks. :)

As much as I admire Vegeta's extraordinary drive to improve, it does make sense that he actually cuts himself short going about training the wrong way with the wrong mindset.

I think Vegeta really is remarkable in his own way, but I also feel like the ...

I was read a story by Kizmet on ff.net where Trunks and Goten wished younger versions of their dads into their timeline so they could have new playmates, and I found this excerpt towards the end interesting.


"Does he improve as quickly as you, Goku?" Roshi asked. He could barely fit his mind ...