Kanzenshuu

Is it to give Asura time to draw? I understand drawing can be rough, especially at his quality, and he likely has several other projects, but we're talking about 2 (3?) pages a week. It's not a mangaka schedule.


I have no issue with him or anyone else taking their time, I just don't ...

He told piccolo there was a better chance of winning with gotenks than with himself.
When he Said goodbye to everyone, he told chichi that if they learned the fusion, they would absolutly win.
Goku said buu was happy when he told him someone stronger than himself was going to fight him in two days ...

Gotenks ssj1 was supposed to beat fat buu who is stronger than a ssj2.
If gotenks ssj1>fat buu>ssj2 goku/vegeta
How could gotenks ssj3 be weaker than goku ssj3?
How could the gap bewtween gotenks ssj1 and gotenks ssj3 be less than between goku ssj2.5 and goku ssj3?

Dragon Ball tends to be weird with how fatigue affects your PL. When Goku and Piccolo fought Goku was crippled but still managed to win both times. Similar thing happened with Gohan. SPC should be tired from regenerating his whole body but somehow isn’t. Etc


I agree completely that goku was not ...

Both were hurt. But despite his wounds, freeza was much less exhausted.

And ssj is x50 while freeza only got x2.

And freeza only augmented his strengh, he didn't transform so he wasn't healed like when he got from 3rd form to final form(Got his tail back).

I agree completely that goku was not at his best.

goku kkx20 was equal to freeza 50%
so to be equal to freeza 100%, goku would need to have a 40x increase.

But because goku was HS : instead of goku 100%x50 >freeza 100% ,we got goku #0% x50 = Freeza 100%

Goku HS should be less than 50%. But Thank ...

It depends.

Vegeto beats buuhan in z and zamasu in dbs.

Gogeta beats janemba in dbz movie and Broly in dbs.

Buuhan seems much stronger than Janemba(I put him around super buu in power)

But which is stronger between Zamasu and Broly?

Gogeta vs Broly makes no sense for me. Gogeta fight him with ...

Except for the fact that elder kai claimed potara fusion was stronger, I have another reason to think vegeto is much stronger than gogeta.

Between a buu arc goku ssj1 and goten ssj3, who would be the strongest? I believe that goten ssj3 is stronger. I don’t believe an adult ssj1 is so much stronger ...

Does anyone like or even know the italian opening?

I am french but the first time I watched db, It was in italian and It always left a good impression.

Even the dub voices are good.

In my mind, what matters is what is in the manga. I don’t care about interview or magazines or Even what toryama Said.

Toryama said that to him, when he invented the ssj, It was only a 10x increase. But by analizing the manga, all the fan agreed that It was 50x. And what toryama said after that ...

Doesn't Vegeta say he was watching the events on Earth happening while he was with King Yemma
It's how he found out about Goku's SS3 and was offended that Goku held back against Majin Vegeta. Vegeta's sentiment about Goku being number 1 was more about him admitting Goku will always reach new ...

When vegeta called goku the number 1against kid buu, it was proven earlier than he never saw gotenks ssj3 and gohan ultimate.

When goku make him agree to fuse into vegeto, we learn that vegeta didn’t know about super buu eating bulma and absorbing gotenks and gohan.

But Inside buu, he said he saw ...

In the end, why gotenks ssj3 and gohan couldn’t be 10x stronger than goku ssj3?
And why vegeto couldn’t be 10x stronger than gogeta?


1) 10x sounds like too much when 2x, 3x and even 5x are great and more than enough, but it could be possible, sure. Although, I haven't found anyone that ...

Both gogeta and vegeto have rival boost. They are both born from the same fighters.
And il was stated from the begining that potala fusion is stronger. It didn’t state how much.

Fusion dépend of the power of the fighter when they fuse, not their potential.
During the ToP, they are at Toppo level ...

I put gogeta ssj1 below gotenks ssj3.
I dont think goku/vegeta ssj1 are stronger than a goten/trunks ssj3.

In the fusion movie, goku ssj3 is able to last a Little vs janemba. Gogeta ssj1 only needs to be a little tier above goku ssj3 to win against janemba.

Vegeto ssj1 did the same against buuhan ...

Instead of numbers, I think in tiers.

For me base gotenks = adult ssj2 since he survived fat buu
gotenks ssj1 = adult ssj3 because he was supposed to beat fat buu in this form

For me fusion Dance is 1 tier lower than potala fusion.
Gogeta ssj1 = vegeto base

Gogeta ssj1 = adult ssj 3,5 = vegeto ...

The goal of dbm is to have fun, not to end fast.
I enjoy dbm not only for the fights but for the humor and the interaction between the characters.
At least, unlike a lot of fan mangas, dbm was not canceled and is still going.
And if you read the original dragon ball, you will see a lot of useless ...

You know, The manga dragon ball had children nudity too. Even Bulma who was only 16. Did toryama ever appologized? Was it censored later?
And in this case, Salagir had nothing to do with Asura's creation. If someone should apologise, it should be Asura. And if you go on twitch, you will see that ...

They didn’t want to fuse against kid buu but They did against super buu.
They didn’t underestimate kid buu. Goku ssj3 was showed to be equal to kid buu in power. He only lost because kid buu can regenerate a lot and because ssj3 can’t be used for a long time and use a lot of ki. But they weren’t ...

You should open a new topic.