If Gotenks can really go SS2, why did he never use it ? He relies only on his SS3.
Moreover, I don't think that Gotenks could do such a performance as a SS1 against Evil Boo who is on the same level as SS3 Gotenks. I know it's a gag fight but still.
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- Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:53 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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- Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:21 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
Maybe it was just part of the SS3 transformation given that it's not instantaneous. All we see is lightning but it may be only because SS3 has lightning. Since he didn't maintain this state, and never refers to it. When the kids first achieved SS3, they only said they've achieved a level above Super ...
- Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:07 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
Difference between not wanting to take the risk and not trusting.
Goku doesn't want to take the risk with Gohan, but Goku takes the risk himself when he fights Pure Boo.
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Goku thinks the odds that Gohan would get absorbed again are greater than the odds that the Genkidama would fail (even though ...
Goku doesn't want to take the risk with Gohan, but Goku takes the risk himself when he fights Pure Boo.
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Goku thinks the odds that Gohan would get absorbed again are greater than the odds that the Genkidama would fail (even though ...
- Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:02 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
But he didn't know that Vegeta underestimated Pure Buu until well into Goku's fight with him, and even then it's only because Vegeta outright told him. There's no reason for Goku to put on an act for Vegeta, none whatsoever.
He knows because Vegeta focused only on Boo's size. And he conceals his ...
He knows because Vegeta focused only on Boo's size. And he conceals his ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:26 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
But nothing suggests that Goku doesn't trust his son anymore.Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:And as usual, the last time he lets Gohan fight his battles, he becomes a victim.
- Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:24 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
You assume he lied which is completely baseless and backed up by nothing, and shown no times that it's correct.
It's not the same because my assumption isn't contradicted by any fact, and I've given a good reason why he lied.
1) You've given your reason as to why you think he's lying, but it ...
It's not the same because my assumption isn't contradicted by any fact, and I've given a good reason why he lied.
1) You've given your reason as to why you think he's lying, but it ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:19 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
You assume that the difference in power between the penalty and bonus results in Evil Boo being stronger than Pure Boo. Baseless assumption, again... That's not what Kibitoshin said. The only thing we can safely conclude is that Pure Boo is stronger, unless Kibitoshin says otherwise.
You still don't ...
You still don't ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:44 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
Just one thing...
Lastly, looking back at Goku's dialogue, I don't see one time when he says that Gotenks was a gamble. Goku: “It’d be better for these young guys to solve things somehow or another…After all, some other outrageous guy might show up eventually, right? …It's a nasty gamble, but ...
Lastly, looking back at Goku's dialogue, I don't see one time when he says that Gotenks was a gamble. Goku: “It’d be better for these young guys to solve things somehow or another…After all, some other outrageous guy might show up eventually, right? …It's a nasty gamble, but ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:40 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
As it has been already been explained, not only does it not make any sense for Goku to lie, but it also doesn't make sense for Goku to lie AND for Vegeta to agree with his lie (since he also showed relief when Kid Buu shows up and think that they can take him, and that opinion never changes).
I've ...
I've ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:01 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
No, it is unclear whether Kaioshin meant one absorption or more. Japanese isn't a very good indicator of plurals.
You didn't get my point. The fact that Kibitoshin said Boo lost a power inhibition implies he's stronger. And since Kibitoshin didn't say Boo lost any power boost, you can't infer he's ...
You didn't get my point. The fact that Kibitoshin said Boo lost a power inhibition implies he's stronger. And since Kibitoshin didn't say Boo lost any power boost, you can't infer he's ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:58 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
You can't honestly say to us that the chances of the South Kaioshin trying to pull out the Z-Sword are 100% there are no certainties like that unless its stated.
Sure, but it's very unlikely he didn't.
Incorrect, the argument I used first has a valid and plausible bases for being true. While it ...
Sure, but it's very unlikely he didn't.
Incorrect, the argument I used first has a valid and plausible bases for being true. While it ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:22 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
The manga doesn't say that he tried removing the Z Sword, and furthermore, why would he want/need to? The legend behind the Z Sword involves becoming the strongest in the universe, but what would a peace-loving Kaioushin need with being the strongest in the universe if his strength is already ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:24 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
You can't say that Gotenks doesn't have the same multipliers as Goku just because you don't want it to work that way. There's nothing to say that the multipliers for the Super Exciting Guide are unique to Goku and only Goku, rather than being indicative of the transformed states of all Saiya-jin ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:03 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
He was still trying to understand what was happening, and like I said, Kid Buu is the form of Buu of which he has the worst memories.
Yesterday I saw my friends' murderer in the street. But I wasn't terrified because he was more muscular than before, so I was only vaguely worried. Do you see how ...
Yesterday I saw my friends' murderer in the street. But I wasn't terrified because he was more muscular than before, so I was only vaguely worried. Do you see how ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:01 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
This has already been discussed. Gotenks simply doesn't have the same multipliers as Goku. Otherwise the consequence would be that South Kaioshin would be many times stronger than Pure Boo, which is ridiculous.
Draken --> What is settled is that Goku judged Boo's ball on its size, and it's the same ...
Draken --> What is settled is that Goku judged Boo's ball on its size, and it's the same ...
- Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:13 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
Size of a ki attack and size of an individual are two different things though. We know the size of a ki attack usually means its strong. We also know that characters who can sense ki don't judge an individual on their size unless their ki is heavily suppressed.
And the muscle mass of a fighter ...
And the muscle mass of a fighter ...
- Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:05 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
Because Buu and the spell are totally different? Buu was an immortal being created to destroy the Kaioshin's (if I remember correctly; I don't have that volume anymore.) It stands to reason that Bibidi would make him able to absorb their power when he created Buu.
For all we know, the sealing ...
For all we know, the sealing ...
- Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:04 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
What's wrong with that? I mean, how's the sealing spell being incompatible with Kaioshin ki any different from Buu himself being incompatible with Kaioshin ki? I don't think there are any strong hints either way, personally.
The problem is that there is no reason for Kaioshin's ki being ...
The problem is that there is no reason for Kaioshin's ki being ...
- Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:57 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
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Re: How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?
Vegeta did say that Cell's final form wasn't very impressive, but he was suppressing his power at that point.
And Pure Boo was suppressing his power too.
Also, you forgot about Goku judging he can't knock back Boo's ball based on its size.
Oh, or that Vegeta somehow forgot how powerful Freeza ...
And Pure Boo was suppressing his power too.
Also, you forgot about Goku judging he can't knock back Boo's ball based on its size.
Oh, or that Vegeta somehow forgot how powerful Freeza ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:10 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
Well, this is not really an explanation. Basically, you're just saying "it's incompatible because it's incompatible" without justification or anything on which to rely. I mean, there isn't any hint or confirmation to back up your supposition. So, I can still ask you why it is incompatible.