I think the only reason Piccolo even bothered is because his affection for Gohan meant he wanted to co-parent co-train Gohan with Goku
I dunno. I think Piccolo actually enjoyed training with Goku.
There was a moment during Goku vs Frieza were Piccolo smiled and expressed a desire to fight Goku ...
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- Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:39 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: About how the characters train
- Replies: 7
- Views: 219
- Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:45 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Daima
- Topic: Which was the better sequel: GT, Super, or Daima ?
- Replies: 123
- Views: 8844
Re: Which was the better sequel: GT, Super, or Daima ?
It's tough to decide.
GT and Super both have their issues, but also have some great highs.
I still like SS4 more than any of Super's palette swaps, not just in appearance but also how the form is attained. The retellings in Super are pretty hard to sit through, arguably more than GT's Black Star ...
GT and Super both have their issues, but also have some great highs.
I still like SS4 more than any of Super's palette swaps, not just in appearance but also how the form is attained. The retellings in Super are pretty hard to sit through, arguably more than GT's Black Star ...
- Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:17 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Which is the better Goku from GT, DBS anime/manga and Daima
- Replies: 22
- Views: 587
Re: Which is the better Goku from GT, DBS anime/manga and Daima
GT Goku actually feels like the same character as Buu arc Goku. He can still be naive, but he's ultimately quite mature.
Super Goku is a comedic caricature a lot of the time, and an overcorrection of how Toriyama viewed anime Goku. He also unexplicably doesn't know what kissing or meditation are ...
Super Goku is a comedic caricature a lot of the time, and an overcorrection of how Toriyama viewed anime Goku. He also unexplicably doesn't know what kissing or meditation are ...
- Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:07 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Imagine if Tien learned the Fusion Dance and Kaio Ken
- Replies: 14
- Views: 472
Re: Imagine if Tien learned the Fusion Dance and Kaio Ken
I don't think him fusing with his own clones would do much even if it were possible. Remember that he divides his power when he splits into 4. It would probably be a pointless endeavor.
It would've been cool if he and Yamcha fused together like in Budokai 2 though. If they both had Kaioken on top ...
It would've been cool if he and Yamcha fused together like in Budokai 2 though. If they both had Kaioken on top ...
- Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:09 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The GT writers screwed up when they made most of the Shadow Dragons pathetically weak
- Replies: 21
- Views: 744
Re: The GT writers screwed up when they made most of the Shadow Dragons pathetically weak
I've come to like this arc more.
The sequence were the Dragons are first released is great. It shows you brief glimpses of some of the Dragons, while keeping the others shrouded in mystery.
The first few being weaker makes sense. They gradually become more threatening, and it adds to the sense of ...
The sequence were the Dragons are first released is great. It shows you brief glimpses of some of the Dragons, while keeping the others shrouded in mystery.
The first few being weaker makes sense. They gradually become more threatening, and it adds to the sense of ...
- Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:40 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Do you think you will always enjoy Dragon Ball?
- Replies: 49
- Views: 1603
Re: Do you think you will always enjoy Dragon Ball?
I've never stopped being a fan. I started at the age of 7 and I'm now 32.
Although at this point I've watched Z so many times I've become less patient with some of the filler. There's only so many times someone can watch Fake Namek afterall. This is one of the reasons why I've come to appreciate ...
Although at this point I've watched Z so many times I've become less patient with some of the filler. There's only so many times someone can watch Fake Namek afterall. This is one of the reasons why I've come to appreciate ...
- Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:35 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 410
Re: What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
Gohan vs Cell and Vegeta vs Frieza rematches would've been interesting in the GT era.
It is kind of funny how Cell only fixates on getting revenge on Goku instead of the one who actually killed him.
This is a bit of a recurring theme in both GT and the old movies, were villains are fixated on ...
It is kind of funny how Cell only fixates on getting revenge on Goku instead of the one who actually killed him.
This is a bit of a recurring theme in both GT and the old movies, were villains are fixated on ...
- Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:56 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super is Not Modern Anymore
- Replies: 81
- Views: 3330
Re: Dragon Ball Super is Not Modern Anymore
What's really funny is that the last decade alone has seen 4 different "canon continuities" that all pick up from Buu's defeat.
First there were the Battle of God's and Resurrection F movies (which retconned both EoZ and GT's events away). They are no longer considered canon.
Then there was the ...
First there were the Battle of God's and Resurrection F movies (which retconned both EoZ and GT's events away). They are no longer considered canon.
Then there was the ...
- Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:27 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
- Replies: 15134
- Views: 1763019
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Despite its issues, Kai is a solid product that is very much a valid way to experience DBZ.
I've come to appreciate it more and more over the years. Is it 100% accurate to the Manga? Of course not. And it doesn't need to be.
It succeeds in one crucial area; it drastically improves the pacing of a ...
I've come to appreciate it more and more over the years. Is it 100% accurate to the Manga? Of course not. And it doesn't need to be.
It succeeds in one crucial area; it drastically improves the pacing of a ...
- Fri Apr 04, 2025 7:49 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Could Dr. Gero have been inspired by Dr. Robotnik?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 543
Re: Could Dr. Gero have been inspired by Dr. Robotnik?
Gero probably wasn't.
The Android arc takes a lot of inspiration from Terminator, although that movie never had a mad scientist character. Gero is pretty much a Dr Frankenstein type character.
I have always felt the Planet M2 arc in GT is very Sonic like though. The planet is turned into metal ...
The Android arc takes a lot of inspiration from Terminator, although that movie never had a mad scientist character. Gero is pretty much a Dr Frankenstein type character.
I have always felt the Planet M2 arc in GT is very Sonic like though. The planet is turned into metal ...
- Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:41 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: How Would You Introduce Someone to Dragon Ball ?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 2318
Re: How Would You Introduce Someone to Dragon Ball ?
To reply to the majority of voices stating that Roshi's behaviour may be a turn off for somebody, with which I agree, I don't really think watching from Z would nullify that.
I just recently had a rewatch of Garlic Jn saga and in one of the earliest scenes, Roshi tells Maroon she has to pass his ...
- Fri Mar 28, 2025 8:50 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: How Would You Introduce Someone to Dragon Ball ?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 2318
Re: How Would You Introduce Someone to Dragon Ball ?
As someone who overall prefers Z I still have to say Kai.
Despite its issues, the pacing alone makes it a way easier watch for newcomers. Some of the filler (particularly stuff like Fake Namek) could be a major turnoff, and could prevent many newcomers from going the distance. Kai hits all the ...
Despite its issues, the pacing alone makes it a way easier watch for newcomers. Some of the filler (particularly stuff like Fake Namek) could be a major turnoff, and could prevent many newcomers from going the distance. Kai hits all the ...
- Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:58 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Krillin > Tenshinhan challenge
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1284
Re: Krillin > Tenshinhan challenge
Kuririn just has more natural talent. I don’t understand why fans struggle to acknowledge this despite the multiple sources claiming one is stronger than the other, and the series showing multiple examples of characters being stronger/surpassing other characters who train harder by virtue of ...
- Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:54 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Krillin > Tenshinhan challenge
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1284
Re: Krillin > Tenshinhan challenge
I guess this is due to setting aside the former supporting characters without much thought.
Part of me wonders if Toriyama simply didn't even think of Tien when he made that statement. He's been known to forget pretty major stuff like SS2, Launch, Tao etc..
Despite being the less brave ...
- Sun Mar 23, 2025 9:48 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Krillin > Tenshinhan challenge
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1284
Re: Krillin > Tenshinhan challenge
Krillin supposedly being stronger has always felt like an odd statement to me. Like it just doesn't ring true.
While Krillin trained to impress the ladies, and sometimes as a reaction to a threat, Tien trained purely for self improvement throughout the entire story. Martial arts was literally Tien ...
While Krillin trained to impress the ladies, and sometimes as a reaction to a threat, Tien trained purely for self improvement throughout the entire story. Martial arts was literally Tien ...
- Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:59 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Is this the only post-EoZ Toriyama content that will ever exist?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1100
Re: Is this the only post-EoZ Toriyama content that will ever exist?
Didn't Toriyama provide designs for the main trio and their spaceship in GT though?
- Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:43 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Kai" Continuity?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 8226
Re: "Dragon Ball Kai" Continuity?
I think there is a bit of nuance to this.
There's the obvious contradictions like Hell being different, and Kai including EoZ which also doesn't fit with Super.
On the other hand both Buu Kai and Super use the Sumitomo score, with several of the same tracks being used. Super also aired in Japan ...
There's the obvious contradictions like Hell being different, and Kai including EoZ which also doesn't fit with Super.
On the other hand both Buu Kai and Super use the Sumitomo score, with several of the same tracks being used. Super also aired in Japan ...
- Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:48 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Was it a mistake to continue after the manga ended ?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1238
Re: Was it a mistake to continue after the manga ended ?
It's interesting that people have different opinions on exactly when/if the franchise jumped the shark.
While I personally love the Buu arc and prefer it to Cell, a lot of people feel the opposite way and consider it a step too far artistically.
To get even more specific there's a lot of ...
While I personally love the Buu arc and prefer it to Cell, a lot of people feel the opposite way and consider it a step too far artistically.
To get even more specific there's a lot of ...
- Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:20 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Was it a mistake to continue after the manga ended ?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1238
Re: Was it a mistake to continue after the manga ended ?
There are many aspects of the post-Buu arc era that I like myself (GT's concepts, Battle of, Daima, etc...), but I can't help but wonder how the franchise would be viewed artistically if it stuck to the original run.
I don't think it would make much difference to how its viewed artistically ...
- Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:31 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Celebrating 25 years since Dragon Ball first aired in the UK and Ireland
- Replies: 12
- Views: 856
Re: Celebrating 25 years since Dragon Ball first aired in the UK and Ireland
My brother said they still aired original dragon ball on toonami in sept 05 I didn’t believe him then but now I see it’s been mentioned in the tv guides wow. What a shame toonami pivoted to the Pokemon and beyblade toy anime fad. It’s left me wondering if sky one had managed to keep Pokemon ...