Kanzenshuu

I didn't bother to read this circle jerk - What I know from what was clearly shown is

Things I know that weren't said:
"You can't suppress SSJX"
Gotenks is stronger than Goku
Gohan is stronger than Goku
South Kiaoshinn Boost Buu's power (or has any effect)

What IS shown/stated
Goku wasn't using ...

"I have Goku stronger than Gotenks Buu, because he was willing to face him head on" Kanzenshuu logic.

Ridiculousness all around - again - ONLY use quotes/info provided to us from the guidebooks/manga/anime but some people find that impossible to do because the story doesn't "work" in their favor when they are forced to do things that way.

Once more, where is it indicated that Buff Buu is more powerful than Kidbuu. You're quoting a conversation that occurred while buu was transforming into KidBuu, or do we need to post the panels to help you uunderstand?

You both are well aware what I'm pointing out, don't make me have to do it ...

Uh huh...so about S.Kaio adding power is stated where?
And you quote makes it seem as if Kiddbuu is stronger than "buffbuu"

Ok, but how does that counter that South Kaioshinn buu and KidBuu have the same power? Since KibitoKai said comments on his increased power AFTER the transformation? Where does it state South Kaio increased power, or that he (or this claimed power) was removed when Buu became Kiddbuu?

Using ONLY the story - and information provided within it - tell me how this information is incorrect. If you "make up" theories or powerlevels, I'll just ignore the whole statement and consider this arguement forfeited on your part.

One Kai actually lowers his power when everyone else boost it ...

It seems you are the one with a personal problem, you are arrogant, you come on here dictating people who believe Evil Boo > Pure Boo are just plain wrong and then you call us idiots or foolish when we offer legitimate evidence against your claims. You are either a troll or you seriously have a god ...

I'll just delete what I don't think is worth my time responding to

So you admit that you don't understand why Piccolo wouldn't say SSJ Gotenks is too weak to fight Fat Boo is SSJ Gotenks < SSJ Vegeta? Well then you've basically argued my point. The only logical reason Piccolo didn't say that is ...

Kaio Power was said to not be compatible with Manjin buu’s revival. Nothing states that South Kaio was removed from buu – nothing states that South Kaio boosted Buu – kibito makes mention of Buu’s power boost AFTER Goku comments about the “being able to handle it”

But hey, it's just easier to make ...

Actually I KNOW Gotenks is weaker than Vegeta - it's stated in the Guidebook. You're wrong about it, and once more - how do you put a number on a feeling? Actually, the guidebook never states how Gotenks surpassed Vegeta. So your argument is null here. For all we know the guidebook is saying Base ...

He might've held-back against Fat Boo, but Gotenks Boo was well aware of how weak Goku was. Same with Super Boo.

He was at full power but never tried. Yes, Gotenks-Boo says Goku is a small fly while he considers Gohan and Gotenks as tough guys.
HUH? Where was that ever said- from what we see ...

Piccolo said Gotenks was the strongest person Buu had ever faced despite facing SSJ3 Goku before. This and any other evidence of Gotenks >>>> Goku is in the freaking Manga. Why are we still debating this when it's been proven so far? Not to mention that my first post shows all the counter argument ...

Again - Goku wasn't present, he knows how it works in concept but never has seen or felt the boys fused, it's just a poor arguement. Your point is no more valid than mine - you believe the absence of evidence is evidence, I believe the opposite. Why does Goku need to be present? Piccolo knows these ...

What is stated outright:

Evil Buu > Good Buu
Fat Buu is greater than both
Super Buu > Fat Buu
Kid Buu/Buff Buu > Super Buu
Gohan Buu >Gotenks Buu > Kid Buu

Vegeta > Pre- Gotenks
Goku > Vegeta
Post Gotenks > Vegeta
Gohan > Gotenks

Anything else from here, we have to fill in the blanks -

No ...

Again - Goku wasn't present, he knows how it works in concept but never has seen or felt the boys fused, it's just a poor arguement. Your point is no more valid than mine - you believe the absence of evidence is evidence, I believe the opposite.

But you do the same thing with your arguments ...

I still wanna ask why Piccolo wouldn't call out Gotenks on being too weak as an SSJ when he called out Base Gotenks right away.

If we go by SSJ Goku> SSJ Gotenks, why would Piccolo and Goku waste time with Gotenks. Why would they put the fate of the earth in someone weaker then Majin Vegeta who ...

I still wanna ask why Piccolo wouldn't call out Gotenks on being too weak as an SSJ when he called out Base Gotenks right away.

If we go by SSJ Goku> SSJ Gotenks, why would Piccolo and Goku waste time with Gotenks. Why would they put the fate of the earth in someone weaker then Majin Vegeta who ...

The problem I have with SSJ3 drawing on the hidden potential is that Gotenks' SSJ3 multiplier would be greater than 4. I just like to assume that Saiyans don't have a limit to their dormant power, it just keeps growing as they grow. Half-breeds just have more dormant power readily available ...

I can respond for him :

Gotenks SSJ is expected to be more powerful than Fat Buu, but in the fact, he never fought him. He fought a stronger version of Buu (as Goku), and needed SSJ3. As Goku. You seem to be missing the point. If Gotenks SSJ ki was just below SSJ Vegeta's ki then Piccolo would ...