Lunch and Santa Kame-Sen'nin? Huh?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:38 pm

Do I need to get the nekogirls .gif in here?

KinoFourpaws · Post by **KinoFourpaws** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:51 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Do I need to get the nekogirls .gif in here?

<Le snippy de image>

Uhm. Let me reiterate.

I wrote:And no, I'm not trying to turn this into another big physics discussion. Notice now that I'm just speculating about the difference in the passage of time; I'm taking the Theory of Relativity and applying it to the situation loosely, not exactly. Otherwise, I'd be spending a lot of time actually figuring it out mathematically, to the point where the whole mess might possibly work out, and then giving you an actual semi-accurate time frame; and you don't see me doing that, now do you? Just thought I'd let you guys know... -_-;

Can't really vouch for the other guys talking about it, but that's my defense... D:

And on a different note, well, Goku had to wait a while before Yajirobe could come along to give him a Senzu. He only got one right before he left Earth, and Kuririn, Bulma, and Gohan had already touched down on Nameck by then. Who's to say it didn't take him several months to heal as much as he did with that timeframe? From what I recall, he was still bandaged like a freakin' mummy when his son and friends left Earth...

Post by **desirecampbell** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:56 pm

Age 756 - May - 7
Goku defeats Piccolo at the Tenka'ichi Budokai

Age 757 - May
Gohan is born

Age 761 - Oct - 12
Raditz lands on Earth

Age 762 - Nov - 3
Vegeta and Nappa arrive on Earth

Age 762 - Nov - 14
Bulma, Kuririn, and Gohan leave for Namek

Age 762 - Dec - 18
Bulma, Kuririn, Gohan arrive on Namek. Goku leaves for Namek.

Age 762 - Dec - 24
Goku arrives on Namek

Hmmm. The Timeline says the Saiyans took 12 and a half months, not eleven. Anyone want to check the manga for a time estimation?

KinoFourpaws · Post by **KinoFourpaws** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:11 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Age 756 - May - 7
Goku defeats Piccolo at the Tenka'ichi Budokai

Age 757 - May
Gohan is born

Age 761 - Oct - 12
Raditz lands on Earth

Age 762 - Nov - 3
Vegeta and Nappa arrive on Earth

Age 762 - Nov - 14
Bulma, Kuririn, and Gohan leave for Namek

Age 762 - Dec - 18
Bulma, Kuririn, Gohan arrive on Namek. Goku leaves for Namek.

Age 762 - Dec - 24
Goku arrives on Namek
Hmmm. The Timeline says the Saiyans took 12 and a half months, not eleven. Anyone want to check the manga for a time estimation?

... *falls over*

Well, that completely blows my theory out the window. Sounds like it's just hit the pavement, too... ouch... >_<;

Hahahah... I am an idiot. -_-;

Tyro · Post by **Tyro** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:42 pm

Shouldn't the Saiyans have arrived in the tenth month range? Muten Roshi stated that the Saiyans will arrive more than a month sooner than they expected.

Post by **TripleRach** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:23 pm

desirecampbell wrote:Hmmm. The Timeline says the Saiyans took 12 and a half months, not eleven. Anyone want to check the manga for a time estimation?

In the manga it's about eleven months. "Half a year" plus "158 days", to be exact.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:19 pm

TripleRach wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:Hmmm. The Timeline says the Saiyans took 12 and a half months, not eleven. Anyone want to check the manga for a time estimation?
In the manga it's about eleven months. "Half a year" plus "158 days", to be exact.

Hmmm... so: error in the daizenshuu, retcon, or maybe just a translation error by Greg Warner?

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:23 pm

On the terms of the image source could it not be from a fan made
dōjinshi?

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:27 pm

This is weird because that volume is on my desk right now.

Lets see, yup.. six months pass, Krillin and the others are training. Then, King Kai tells Goku that 158 days with him is a thousand years of training on Earth (WTF). King Kai makes a mistake and the saiyans come about a month sooner then expected. This was all according to Viz's manga; is that accurate to the original?
-Rick

Post by **TripleRach** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:57 pm

Mr.Piccolo wrote:This is weird because that volume is on my desk right now.
Lets see, yup.. six months pass, Krillin and the others are training. Then, King Kai tells Goku that 158 days with him is a thousand years of training on Earth (WTF). King Kai makes a mistake and the saiyans come about a month sooner then expected. This was all according to Viz's manga; is that accurate to the original?
-Rick

In the original, there's nothing about Kaiou making a mistake, aside from not factoring in the time it would take Gokuu to travel back. However, on Earth, Kamesennin says they weren't expecting the Saiya-jin for another month, which is consistent with the fact that Raditz told them a year, but at this point it's only been eleven months.

As for the training thing, Kaiou actually says that 158 days of training with him is "worth thousands of years of training" on Earth.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:26 pm

Off topic, but this seems to be the only place where I've seen Age 7xx recently... hence it came to mind...

Could the "Age" in the year be based on the Japanese system of naming an era after its emperor? Granted, the King in DB was only ruling for 20 years... but maybe Age was a more important figure or something...

I don't remember if I mentioned this anywhere or not... if I did then... I'm probably stupid or something.

On topic... Umm... I'm confused as to where a lot of dates in the Daizenshuu come from. Several are mentioned throughout the series, and a lot can be inferred based on those, but a lot of the others ... make me wonder...

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:23 pm

caejones wrote:Could the "Age" in the year be based on the Japanese system of naming an era after its emperor? Granted, the King in DB was only ruling for 20 years... but maybe Age was a more important figure or something...

My guess, it was just something he made up so as to not have "AD".

Slickmasterfunk · Post by **Slickmasterfunk** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:29 pm

I remeber this popping up in a thread a long time ago. If I'm not mistaken, I do believe that this was the last time that Toriyama actually remembered Lunch enough to actually draw her for something.

Mystic Jack · Post by **Mystic Jack** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:31 am

I could've sworn I've seen this image before... Can't quite put my finger on it...

Post by **TripleRach** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:41 am

Actually, I was reading some things about Dr. Slump recently on Japanese Wikipedia, and, assuming the accuracy of the information (no direct citing), エイジ/Age was used in Dr. Slump, too. In fact, the years are equated to AD years. Arale's year of completion is listed as "1980 (Age 745)", and Turbo's birth year is listed as "1984 (Age 749)". Of course, 1984 is also the year the DB manga started, and 749 is the year Gokuu meets Buruma. Hmm...

Post by **desirecampbell** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:55 am

TripleRach wrote:Actually, I was reading some things about Dr. Slump recently on Japanese Wikipedia, and, assuming the accuracy of the information (no direct citing), エイジ/Age was used in Dr. Slump, too. In fact, the years are equated to AD years. Arale's year of completion is listed as "1980 (Age 745)", and Turbo's birth year is listed as "1984 (Age 749)". Of course, 1984 is also the year the DB manga started, and 749 is the year Gokuu meets Buruma. Hmm...

Really? That's quite informative.

Obi-Wan · Post by **Obi-Wan** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:04 pm

Hide and seek, priceless. Looks like Bulma's playing a videogame too. Classic.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:36 pm

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=1278

Previous discussion on the matter, if anyone is interested.