Lunch and Santa Kame-Sen'nin? Huh?

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:58 pm

I stumbled across the above image on Wikipedia. It seems to take place during the Freeza arc since Tien, Yamcha, Chaozu and Piccolo are training with Kaio-sama, and Bulma is watching a portable TV in her Namek clothes on what what appears to be Namek, so... where is this from?

I don't seem to recall this at all in the manga. Does anyone out there have any ideas? It seems to have a Christmas theme, so is it from some kind of Christmas special?

Black Mist · Post by **Black Mist** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:00 pm

It seems this picture doesn't exist Tori-bot looks like you got yourself a broken link.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:02 pm

Black Mist wrote:It seems this picture dosen't exist Tori-bot looks like you got yourself a broken kink.

A broken kink? Oh no... o_o;;

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:11 pm

The timeline does say the Freeza saga took place in december...

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:18 pm

I think that was one of those special pages during DBZ's original run in Shonen Jump. I'm pretty sure that couldn't be found in the manga, as you said.
-Rick

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:24 pm

Yamcha's apparently back to life : P

Lavender Saiyan · Post by **Lavender Saiyan** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:00 pm

Castor Troy wrote:The timeline does say the Freeza saga took place in december...

You mean by DBZ time or Toriyama started drawing some stuff in December?

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:36 pm

It's probably one of those things made for the JP Shonen Jump. Though I'm sure it was put again in a daizenshuu later on.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:45 pm

Lavender Saiyan wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:The timeline does say the Freeza saga took place in december...
You mean by DBZ time or Toriyama started drawing some stuff in December?

The timeline from daizenshuu 7, Namek explodes on Christmas eve.

Black Mist · Post by **Black Mist** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:54 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Lavender Saiyan wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:The timeline does say the Freeza saga took place in december...
You mean by DBZ time or Toriyama started drawing some stuff in December?
The timeline from daizenshuu 7, Namek explodes on Christmas eve.

Tis the night before Christmas and all thought Namek... Ahh run for your life this planets going to Blow!

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:25 pm

Namek explodes on Christmas Eve? Oh my.

Learn something new everyday =]. Anyhow, hopefully someone can confirm if this was by Mr.Toriyama or not.

The S · Post by **The S** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:32 pm

Notice how there are no Saiya-jin shown?

Lavender Saiyan · Post by **Lavender Saiyan** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:26 am

desirecampbell wrote:
Lavender Saiyan wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:The timeline does say the Freeza saga took place in december...
You mean by DBZ time or Toriyama started drawing some stuff in December?
The timeline from daizenshuu 7, Namek explodes on Christmas eve.

Is that correct? Doesn't really make sense. King Piccolo was killed on May 9'th. 3 years later was a Budokai. Then 5 years later was the beginning of Z. 11 Months later the Saiyans arrived. Which means the Saiyans arrived in April. 10 days passed before they took off to Namek. It took a bit over a month to get to Namek. So it was May again when they got to Namek. Goku took 6 days to get to Namek. So it was Late-May during the Goku/Freeza fight.

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:24 am

Bulma's not watching Tv, she's playing a videogame.

KinoFourpaws · Post by **KinoFourpaws** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:45 am

Lavender Saiyan wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:
Lavender Saiyan wrote: You mean by DBZ time or Toriyama started drawing some stuff in December?
The timeline from daizenshuu 7, Namek explodes on Christmas eve.
Is that correct? Doesn't really make sense. King Piccolo was killed on May 9'th. 3 years later was a Budokai. Then 5 years later was the beginning of Z. 11 Months later the Saiyans arrived. Which means the Saiyans arrived in April. 10 days passed before they took off to Namek. It took a bit over a month to get to Namek. So it was May again when they got to Namek. Goku took 6 days to get to Namek. So it was Late-May during the Goku/Freeza fight.

Actually, if I recall correctly, the initial trip to Nameck took around six months... maybe more, maybe less. I don't recall exactly, just that that was about the time range of traveling that Bulma and Co. did in Kami's old ship.

Can someone back me up on this, please? D:

Lavender Saiyan · Post by **Lavender Saiyan** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:54 am

Volume 21, Page 91

"And on the 34'th Day after leaving Earth. Bulma & Co. arrive on Namek"

KinoFourpaws · Post by **KinoFourpaws** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:31 am

Lavender Saiyan wrote:Volume 21, Page 91

"And on the 34'th Day after leaving Earth. Bulma & Co. arrive on Namek"

Deh... uhm. Maybe that's just something with the Viz translation? D:

Well... if you want to bring physics into the discussion (aside: RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, DRAGONBALL FANS! DDD8), according to the Theory of Relativity, Bulma and Co.'s trip of 34 days space-traveling might have equated to about 6-7 months of time passing on Earth. I mean, Goku can't have really healed as much as he did in a month, right? o-o;

And no, I'm not trying to turn this into another big physics discussion. Notice now that I'm just speculating about the difference in the passage of time; I'm taking the Theory of Relativity and applying it to the situation loosely, not exactly. Otherwise, I'd be spending a lot of time actually figuring it out mathematically, to the point where the whole mess might possibly work out, and then giving you an actual semi-accurate time frame; and you don't see me doing that, now do you? Just thought I'd let you guys know... -_-;

Lavender Saiyan · Post by **Lavender Saiyan** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:22 am

Toriyama & Physics.....um, no

. Besides, Yajirobe came with some Senzu to heal the G-Man.

Post by **TripleRach** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:01 pm

Lavender Saiyan wrote:Is that correct? Doesn't really make sense. King Piccolo was killed on May 9'th. 3 years later was a Budokai. Then 5 years later was the beginning of Z. 11 Months later the Saiyans arrived. Which means the Saiyans arrived in April. 10 days passed before they took off to Namek. It took a bit over a month to get to Namek. So it was May again when they got to Namek. Goku took 6 days to get to Namek. So it was Late-May during the Goku/Freeza fight.

That five year interval doesn't necessarily have to be exactly five years, though. It could easily be five years and seven months or something, which would make the timeline accurate. (If you ignore the other reasons that the timeline is very wrong for those years, anyway.)

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:17 pm

KinoFourpaws wrote:Well... if you want to bring physics into the discussion (aside: RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, DRAGONBALL FANS! DDD8), according to the Theory of Relativity, Bulma and Co.'s trip of 34 days space-traveling might have equated to about 6-7 months of time passing on Earth. I mean, Goku can't have really healed as much as he did in a month, right? o-o;

And no, I'm not trying to turn this into another big physics discussion. Notice now that I'm just speculating about the difference in the passage of time; I'm taking the Theory of Relativity and applying it to the situation loosely, not exactly. Otherwise, I'd be spending a lot of time actually figuring it out mathematically, to the point where the whole mess might possibly work out, and then giving you an actual semi-accurate time frame; and you don't see me doing that, now do you? Just thought I'd let you guys know... -_-;

That might be an explanation, except Bulma and Co were travelling faster than light (as shown when the spaceship gets to Jupiter in a few seconds rather than more than an hour), which means Einstein's theories are out the window, sicne he showed you can't go faster than light.