Trunks/Bardock digitally remastered double feature cover art

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:44 am

TheMajinRedComet wrote:Looks like we are going to get Japanese audio, Mmmm Soild State Scouter.... "there will also be revised English dialogue and Japanese audio in 5.1 surround sound"
http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=20242

*Sold*

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:49 am

Also sold!

So it's essentially Season Sets for GT then. I wonder if it's gonna be remastered/cropped to fit in with the Z one, or if FUNi learned their lesson.

SaiyamanMS · Post by **SaiyamanMS** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:51 am

DaemonCorps wrote:But does that really ensure that the image songs are gonna be in the special when you're playing the dub with the Japanese BGM? I mean, I remember the "remastered" episodes replaced the times there were stuff like image songs with just plain silence.

Well, if you watch their dub of the original DB, they kinda randomly switched between having and not having the insert songs.

Eg. Mezase Tenkaichi was removed during the Goku vs. Jackie Chun fight, but that Red Ribbon Army song (can't remember the title. >_>) was kept when Goku was on his way to RRA headquarters.

I really couldn't imagine them releasing a dub with JP BGM track for Bardock without Solid State Scouter, because... Well, it's Solid State Scouter.

Of course, this is Funimation... and while I trust them with Fullmetal Alchemist, Yu Yu Hakusho and One Piece, Dragonball is still shaky ground at times...

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:10 am

I believe that at one part of Dragon Ball, Mesaze Tenkaichi was played without vocals, however, at a later point in the series, the vocals were included.

God damn FUNimation...

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:16 am

It would be nice if we didn't have to worry about whether or not the Japanese BGM will be "complete."

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:24 am

Well, it's not FUNi's fault on the BGM - certain songs weren't sold to them to rightfully use in there as I understand it, hence the mutilation of some BGM.

TheMajinRedComet · Post by **TheMajinRedComet** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:26 am

Frankly I just cross my fingers, but I am very happy that these specials now have a 5.1 mix.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:35 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Well, it's not FUNi's fault on the BGM - certain songs weren't sold to them to rightfully use in there as I understand it, hence the mutilation of some BGM.

How does that explain Mesaze Tenkaichi not being where it should be in some episodes, yet it's there in others? Hasn't like every other country used the original BGM without a problem? Why can't Funi get all the songs?

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:38 am

I've confirmed future Gohan is still Clarke in the remastered version.

The narrator is Hebert though.

TheMajinRedComet · Post by **TheMajinRedComet** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:42 am

Good, It always seemed reasonable that Gohan from another time line would have a different voice.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:59 am

Dubs w/t Japanese BGM, revised dubbing/dialogue, Dameon Clarke staying as Mirai Gohan; I'm sold!

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:14 am

Um, I know Mirai Gohan is in a different timeline and all but, wouldn't you want Herbert voicing Gohan? Because if what you guys are saying about Gohan then shouldn't it apply to Trunks too? I mean Mirai Trunks and present day Trunks are complete opposites but they have the same voice in the dub.

I don't know. I'm rather confused on that.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:41 am

Vekurotto wrote:Um, I know Mirai Gohan is in a different timeline and all but, wouldn't you want Herbert voicing Gohan? Because if what you guys are saying about Gohan then shouldn't it apply to Trunks too? I mean Mirai Trunks and present day Trunks are complete opposites but they have the same voice in the dub.

I don't know. I'm rather confused on that.

It really depends on interpretation, especially when it comes to the confines of the dub "universe". With Mirai Gohan, we got this rage-filled emotionally driven 22/23 year old who grew up in this dark future as its only protector after losing all those he cared about at 9 years old. Dameon Clarke really fits the part and shows a stellar emphasis on the personality of Gohan through his voice alone, and even more establishes how different a person this is from the Gohan whom grew up after defeating Cell. When we got to Gohan in the Buu arc, he was this 16 year old high-achiever who lived a perfectly peaceful life in raising his kid brother and looking after his Mother, with no worries of battling evil androids or helping a massively decreasing population of innocents. Plus, he's much more a literal geek inside than the very tough figure that his Mirai counterpart turned out to be, hence coming up with the Great Saiyaman identity.

Regarding Trunks, yes he did grow up very differently and turned out just as different from his present counterpart, but he didn't hold a very stressful burden of the world on his shoulders for 13 years after losing all those he loved at such a young age. From what I could interpret in the anime special, Bulma also tried to keep his life somewhat as normal as understandably possible, with having him study books and such while avoiding training with Gohan until she thought he was ready (this is the dub'verse, mind you). I think what the dub itself tried to convey with Trunks is he didn't see true destruction until flying to the city the androids destroy at the start of the special, so that may contribute to possibly being partially sheltered from it by Bulma (once again, in the dub). So comparing to Gohan, he only had one major loss in his life and at a more older age (13), so it's understandable he wouldn't be as different as Gohan from my point of view.

Hopefully I'm making some sense.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:13 am

^ Hmm, yeah somewhat. I won't bother countering anything from the dub'verse though since I haven't seen the dub of the Trunks special since toonami times.

But yeah it's somewhat making since. It's kinda like that in Japanese except that Mirai Gohan still has the same voice, yet it's still portrayed differently than 16 year old Gohan, somewhat like how you are saying with Clark/Herbert differences.

Genki-Dama · Post by **Genki-Dama** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:19 am

Should have made it a double sided cover with this image

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:50 pm

Also, confirmed via a picture from Amazon's listing

The specials DO NOT come in a tin.

They come in a steelbook, which is far superior to just a dvd case in a tin.

Just wish Funi's first steelbook (can anyone recall if this is the first one, I'm pretty sure it is) was a release that wasn't gonna be screwed up to high heaven.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:35 pm

Well, the release wouldn't be screwed up, but would the two TV specials? That's different. If you're not a fan of the Widescreen and "Remastering" then boy, do I think you're gonna be disappointed.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:44 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Well, the release wouldn't be screwed up, but would the two TV specials? That's different. If you're not a fan of the Widescreen and "Remastering" then boy, do I think you're gonna be disappointed.

...because it screws up the video, and thus the release.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:20 am

Well their release is successful. The whole 'being true to the show' isn't.

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:03 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:Well their release is successful. The whole 'being true to the show' isn't.

You are gonna be that guy who just pops in everywhere to get your point across aren't you?

Stuff can be screwed up and still sell well.

Curse of the Black Pearl on Blu-ray, screwed up, still sold well.

Guitar Hero 3 on Wii, screwed up, sold well.

Look at that....