Aspects of Dragonball Fandom that Piss You Off

Vegard Aune · Post by **Vegard Aune** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:05 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I hate annoying Dragon Box elitists (AKA 85% of this board) that thinks that anyone who buys the Season Set instead of the Dragon Box is an idiot. Can some of you guys pull your heads out of your ass and realize that some of us can't afford the Dragon Boxes, some of us don't feel like learning Japanese, and some of us don't even have multi-regional DVD players. A lot of us who buy the set just want the episodes at an affordable price and don't care about 25% meaningless footage at the top and bottom gone, or how accurate the color looks, or how many lines are present during a shaking scene. So don't get pissy about people "playing into Funi's hands" or "keeping you from getting a proper release by giving them money." You guys have to realize that you Dragon Box buying fans make up only about 25% of the US fanbase, and the other 60 or 70% aren't anal about the picture quality.

Funny how the way you say that makes you just as bad, only that you're defending the season-sets rather than bashing them. Honestly, I can't recall more than ONE member acting the way you're talking about.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:07 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:You guys have to realize that you Dragon Box buying fans make up only about 25% of the US fanbase, and the other 60 or 70% aren't anal about the picture quality.
DaizEX: Where 25% plus "60 or 70%" equals 100%.

-Corey

I meant that about 70% doesn't care, and another 30% does care, but isn't huge about it.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:09 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:You guys have to realize that you Dragon Box buying fans make up only about 25% of the US fanbase, and the other 60 or 70% aren't anal about the picture quality.
DaizEX: Where 25% plus "60 or 70%" equals 100%.

-Corey
I meant that about 70% doesn't care, and another 30% does care, but isn't huge about it.

...your math is not like our Earth math.

-Corey

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:14 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I hate how dramatic arguments tend to break out in EVERY THREAD EVAR.
Better than every thread being a circlejerk.

I'm not asking for that. But getting along ONCE IN AWHILE isn't too horrible, is it?

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:15 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:You guys have to realize that you Dragon Box buying fans make up only about 25% of the US fanbase, and the other 60 or 70% aren't anal about the picture quality.
DaizEX: Where 25% plus "60 or 70%" equals 100%.

-Corey
I meant that about 70% doesn't care, and another 30% does care, but isn't huge about it.

But i know you realize that the 70 percent of willfully(i think that's spelled right) ignorant fans are stopping the rest from getting a release that is actually better for all. I know this isn't a DBox discussion thread,but their actions are allowing Funimation and companies like them to keep feeding the same garbage out. If there is a better product out there,why can't those people who know about it support it and spread the knowledge around. I am personally glad for people like Corey and the Daizex Staff for actually showing me the flaws in what I'm buying so i won't be ignorant.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:18 pm

Raki wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote: DaizEX: Where 25% plus "60 or 70%" equals 100%.

-Corey
I meant that about 70% doesn't care, and another 30% does care, but isn't huge about it.
But i know you realize that the 70 percent of willfully(i think that's spelled right) ignorant fans are stopping the rest from getting a release that is actually better for all. I know this isn't a DBox discussion thread,but their actions are allowing Funimation and companies like them to keep feeding the same garbage out. If there is a better product out there,why can't those people who know about it support it and spread the knowledge around. I am personally glad for people like Corey and the Daizex Staff for actually showing me the flaws in what I'm buying so i won't be ignorant.

And why should I care about the 25% that actually care? We aren't willfully ignorant, we're apathetic.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:20 pm

Kendamu wrote:I'm not asking for that. But getting along ONCE IN AWHILE isn't too horrible, is it?

Oh, fine. *grabs Kendamu and kisses*

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:22 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:And why should I care about the 25% that actually care? We aren't willfully ignorant, we're apathetic.

Feh, apathy is so 1995.

-Corey

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:30 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
And why should I care about the 25% that actually care? We aren't willfully ignorant, we're apathetic.

Why don't you care about having the best quality releases availible,and reasonable pricing? If no other anime fanbase stands for it,why should the Dragonball fans......

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:37 pm

Raki wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
And why should I care about the 25% that actually care? We aren't willfully ignorant, we're apathetic.
Why don't you care about having the best quality releases availible,and reasonable pricing? If no other anime fanbase stands for it,why should the Dragonball fans......

Because we don't care. If we get a release that has the episodes with a good price, but has bad video quality, we won't boycott it until we get good video quality, we'll just buy it because we just want the episodes at a reasonable price, not pretty colors.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:42 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Because we don't care. If we get a release that has the episodes with a good price, but has bad video quality, we won't boycott it until we get good video quality, we'll just buy it because we just want the episodes at a reasonable price, not pretty colors.

Really? I have a CD somewhere from 2000 with all of DragonBall Z in Real Media format. I'll sell it to you for $5.00. That's like...1.7 cents an episode. I better start making copies, I'm gonna make a fortune!

Best DragonBall Z release EVAR.

-Corey

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:47 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Because we don't care. If we get a release that has the episodes with a good price, but has bad video quality, we won't boycott it until we get good video quality, we'll just buy it because we just want the episodes at a reasonable price, not pretty colors.
Really? I have a CD somewhere from 2000 with all of DragonBall Z in Real Media format. I'll sell it to you for $5.00. That's like...1.7 cents an episode. I better start making copies, I'm gonna make a fortune!

Best DragonBall Z release EVAR.

-Corey

I'm not defending the quality of the sets, I'm just saying that some people should stop acting like ignorant assholes to people who buy them.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:48 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I hate annoying Dragon Box elitists (AKA 85% of this board) that thinks that anyone who buys the Season Set instead of the Dragon Box is an idiot.

This is the part I don't like nor agree with. Show me proof that 85% of this board feels EXACTLY that way, because I certainly haven't witnessed it from that amount of members here and it's not like I only visit this board once in a blue moon.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:48 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Because we don't care. If we get a release that has the episodes with a good price, but has bad video quality, we won't boycott it until we get good video quality, we'll just buy it because we just want the episodes at a reasonable price, not pretty colors.
Really? I have a CD somewhere from 2000 with all of DragonBall Z in Real Media format. I'll sell it to you for $5.00. That's like...1.7 cents an episode. I better start making copies, I'm gonna make a fortune!

Best DragonBall Z release EVAR.

-Corey

Corey,have you "remastered" the footage with music that sounds like it came from Japan? If so,I'm completely sold.

Fuck the Dragonbox,i'm buying the CoreyBox. Its the way Dragonball Z was meant to be seen. Cheap and low buget.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:52 pm

@ jjgp1112

The funny thing is these "people" (whom apparently lack names) aren't being ignorant assholes. It starts with them pointing out the Season Sets have problems FUNImation lies about, then someone overreacts (I cite you, in this case) and says they're being jerks, and it all unfolds from there.

The circle begets itself. You've started over half of the arguments on this board about the Season Sets.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:52 pm

However, I'd never buy a fansub. I'm at least respectful to copyrights.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:04 pm

If there is a better product out there,why can't those people who know about it support it and spread the knowledge around.

Well, in this instance, 'better product' is entirely subjective. The DragonBox is not a 'better product' as far as the average consumer (such as myself) is concerned. Sure, it's got the better picture, but the audio is worthless. I can't understand Japanese and there aren't any subtitles. Therefor, to me and many others, there isn't anything better than the Orange Bricks™ out there.

And in the end they are, while not the ultimate relase, a good deal. They're cheap, they have both the dub and the original JP audio, they have the JP music, and they've got quality subs for the JP version. You're trading picture for subs (I'll admit, trading nothing would be nice, but you make do with what you have). The problem is, from what I've seen, (though I've avoided 'discussions' about the sets) the atmosphere around the situation gives the impression that people against the sets view them a personal attack on them and that anyone who buys them is an idiot for not getting the DragonBoxes instead. Whether they can understand Japanese or not.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:06 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I'm not asking for that. But getting along ONCE IN AWHILE isn't too horrible, is it?
Oh, fine. *grabs Kendamu and kisses*

Funny!

Y'know what I mean, though.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:09 pm

Xyex wrote:
If there is a better product out there,why can't those people who know about it support it and spread the knowledge around.
Well, in this instance, 'better product' is entirely subjective. The DragonBox is not a 'better product' as far as the average consumer (such as myself) is concerned. Sure, it's got the better picture, but the audio is worthless. I can't understand Japanese and there aren't any subtitles. Therefor, to me and many others, there isn't anything better than the Orange Bricks™ out there.

I understand what you are saying,as i own the 3 bricks already. And i was only speaking on the video itself,being as the Japanese sets are almost useless to an English speaking audience.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:09 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:However, I'd never buy a fansub. I'm at least respectful to copyrights.

Copyright shmopyright - who buys fansubs? That's just stupid.