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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:56 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:In DBZ, they're not in charge of how fast or slow they speak. Want to know why? Because they're told to follow the mouth flaps.
That's not entirely true. One of the biggest advances in voice-overs has been the recording & playback technology that allows them to alter the pitch and speed of recordings to some degree without destroying the integrity of the actual, original recording and performance.

Besides, up until Akira, I dare you to find an anime that actually had anything resembling matching lip flaps... they just don't care, over there. I never understood the huge divide between Japan and the US on that. That's not to say that one ideology is better than the other, but it's so interesting to see the difference. Vegeta in movie 6 right after he lands is one of my favorite examples, where his flaps just keep going and going and going despite not actually speaking, anymore...

In a struggle to get this back on-topic with regards to the original post(s)...

There's simply no factual information, as far as I can tell, right? It seems like the right business decision for FUNimation (as seen by the way they've been handling the series). One really has to wonder, though, how they'll market the original DB TV series if they do happen to put out a "remastered" release. As has been noted, they used the original BGM in that one, so while they could do some more typical "INCLUSDES THE OAIGNALL JAPANZES AUDIOA@!!"... well, it always has with your in-house release of it.
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Post by Raki » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:12 am

VegettoEX wrote: There's simply no factual information, as far as I can tell, right? It seems like the right business decision for FUNimation (as seen by the way they've been handling the series). One really has to wonder, though, how they'll market the original DB TV series if they do happen to put out a "remastered" release. As has been noted, they used the original BGM in that one, so while they could do some more typical "INCLUSDES THE OAIGNALL JAPANZES AUDIOA@!!"... well, it always has with your in-house release of it.
Well Vegetto_EX-sama, we are all nine years old right? They will just run that same line again because they don't think we all know any better.(But we do, thanks to the good folks at www.daizex.com .) What will really strike me is how are they going to justify the widescreen for Dragonball? To me the footage for DB always looked better that Funi's DBZ, so their wouldn't be any reason for it.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:15 am

For whatever reason they do care about the mouth flaps. And they wouldn't alter the speed of the lines because on the DVDs, they let you switch between English and Japanese on the spot. So imagine if they did slow down the audio or made it faster. Either the Japanese audio would be sped up/slowed down, or it would be out of sync for the rest of the episode.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:48 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:How much voice variation can you have when they make you play 15 different people?
See people like Billy West.
I think it's pretty easy to tell that Fry, Lars, Stimpy, Doug, and Professor Farnsworth are voiced by the same person.
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Post by desirecampbell » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:37 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:How much voice variation can you have when they make you play 15 different people?
See people like Billy West.
I think it's pretty easy to tell that Fry, Lars, Stimpy, Doug, and Professor Farnsworth are voiced by the same person.
And it's also pretty easy to tell that they're being acted, which is more than we can say for Sabat.

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Post by Vekurotto » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:59 pm

Rocketman wrote:I think it's funny that the same people who praise JPN Goku's girlish voice as "showing his childlike innocence" while blasting US Freeza's voice for "not matching his character"
Freeza goes from being a regal overlord in the original to an old lady on a power trip with his dub voice. I think that's a big deal.
Rocketman wrote:...don't bat an eye when JPN Bardock, a genocidal beast who's never had one day of innocence...has a girl's voice.
Because, as stated earlier Bardock sounds mostly like a heartless, sly bastard while Goku sounds like a carefree individual. People can have the same voice and sound different it's not impossible.
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Post by ect5150 » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:40 pm

Raki wrote:What will really strike me is how are they going to justify the widescreen for Dragonball? To me the footage for DB always looked better that Funi's DBZ, so their wouldn't be any reason for it.
Justification is from a cost standpoint for them to release it in the future on BluRay in 1080p (which is a widescreen format). I know they could place column bars on the left and the right, but the notion of bars doesn't go over well for the general population.

Of course, they won't tell the customers that (I guess we'll see with GT first?)
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Post by caejones » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:40 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:For whatever reason they do care about the mouth flaps. And they wouldn't alter the speed of the lines because on the DVDs, they let you switch between English and Japanese on the spot. So imagine if they did slow down the audio or made it faster. Either the Japanese audio would be sped up/slowed down, or it would be out of sync for the rest of the episode.
That problem wouldn't happen if the lines that are mixed with the video are already modified. I.E, if they change anything, it's changed independent of the video, so nothing is modified release-side... did that make any sense? The same as adding echo effects?

The only thing I see coming out of a DB re-release would be the first thirteen episodes. :?

(O.O... I usually notice when one voice actor does all kinds of roles... I guess I never heard most of Billy Wes's voices close enough together to think about it. :? )
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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:54 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote:See people like Billy West.
I think it's pretty easy to tell that Fry, Lars, Stimpy, Doug, and Professor Farnsworth are voiced by the same person.
And it's also pretty easy to tell that they're being acted, which is more than we can say for Sabat.
I pretty much had a "WTF?!" reaction to finding out that Yamcha, Vegeta, Burter, Jeice, and Piccolo were voiced by the same person. I'd say that the acting is different. Sabat is a pretty good VA in my opinion (yeah, I know how some of you hate it when people hav opinions opposite to yours).
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Post by Victator Supreme » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:53 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote:See people like Billy West.
I think it's pretty easy to tell that Fry, Lars, Stimpy, Doug, and Professor Farnsworth are voiced by the same person.
And it's also pretty easy to tell that they're being acted, which is more than we can say for Sabat.
Horse shit, Sabat has been doing a great job playing Vegeta since the end of the Cell Games. Anybody that says otherwise is full of it. His performence as Demon King Piccolo was great. Anybody that says otherwise is just being obtuse. The guy has aboyt 6 or 7 unique voices (this is not including guys like Jeice who is simply British Yamcha), and can always be depended on for a good performence.

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Post by TripleRach » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:16 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:Horse shit, Sabat has been doing a great job playing Vegeta since the end of the Cell Games. Anybody that says otherwise is full of it. His performence as Demon King Piccolo was great. Anybody that says otherwise is just being obtuse. The guy has aboyt 6 or 7 unique voices (this is not including guys like Jeice who is simply British Yamcha), and can always be depended on for a good performence.
Um, your opinions are not facts. People who have negative opinions about something are not automatically evil anarchist assholes.

And frankly, I personally hated his Piccolo Daimaou. It was way too forced, and painfully gruffy. He should have went for a sinister version of his Kami voice (which even I'll admit is one of his better roles) rather than trying to sound like Piccolo choking to death.
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Post by bkev » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:23 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote:See people like Billy West.
I think it's pretty easy to tell that Fry, Lars, Stimpy, Doug, and Professor Farnsworth are voiced by the same person.
And it's also pretty easy to tell that they're being acted, which is more than we can say for Sabat.
I wouldn't have guessed Stimpy, but the rest are quite similar now that I think about it.

And personally? I think that when Sabat has a major character, he acts well. He just doesn't care about his bit parts.
King Piccolo voice ftl, because he didn't have any difference from MaJunior besides a little less raspiness.
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Post by NeptuneKai » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:02 pm

bkev wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I think it's pretty easy to tell that Fry, Lars, Stimpy, Doug, and Professor Farnsworth are voiced by the same person.
And it's also pretty easy to tell that they're being acted, which is more than we can say for Sabat.
I wouldn't have guessed Stimpy, but the rest are quite similar now that I think about it.

And personally? I think that when Sabat has a major character, he acts well. He just doesn't care about his bit parts.
King Piccolo voice ftl, because he didn't have any difference from MaJunior besides a little less raspiness *and* he had a wacky script (Listen to this!)
That was wacky? Maybe it's because I have just read the manga of that scene but it didn't seem TOO far off.
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Post by Victator Supreme » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:05 pm

TripleRach wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:Horse shit, Sabat has been doing a great job playing Vegeta since the end of the Cell Games. Anybody that says otherwise is full of it. His performence as Demon King Piccolo was great. Anybody that says otherwise is just being obtuse. The guy has aboyt 6 or 7 unique voices (this is not including guys like Jeice who is simply British Yamcha), and can always be depended on for a good performence.
Um, your opinions are not facts. People who have negative opinions about something are not automatically evil anarchist assholes.

And frankly, I personally hated his Piccolo Daimaou. It was way too forced, and painfully gruffy. He should have went for a sinister version of his Kami voice (which even I'll admit is one of his better roles) rather than trying to sound like Piccolo choking to death.
Sabat having six to seven unique voices is not opinon thats fact.
And personally? I think that when Sabat has a major character, he acts well. He just doesn't care about his bit parts.
King Piccolo voice ftl, because he didn't have any difference from MaJunior besides a little less raspiness *and* he had a wacky script (Listen to this!)
I fdfound I did not care for his Piccolo in the redub. He seemed to have difficulty doing a Piccolo who was not pure evil but not a good guy.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:06 pm

bkev wrote:King Piccolo voice ftl, because he didn't have any difference from MaJunior besides a little less raspiness
So...you expect a clone to sound radically different from the being who was cloned?
*and* he had a wacky script (Listen to this!)
And, that's pretty much what King Piccolo said in the manga, slightly embellished.

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Post by bkev » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:07 pm

Yikes! It just sounded so dub-like, sorry. :oops:
*hides in a corner of inaccuracy... again.*
[quote="Brakus"]For all the flack that FUNimation gets on this forum for their quote about DBZ, there's some modicum of truth to it: a 9-year-old is born every day. Or in some cases, "reborn". DBZ may be a kids' show, but it's been so close to so many hearts all over Japan, America, and quite possibly, even the world.[/quote]

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Post by Vekurotto » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:01 pm

Rocketman wrote:
bkev wrote:King Piccolo voice ftl, because he didn't have any difference from MaJunior besides a little less raspiness
So...you expect a clone to sound radically different from the being who was cloned?
Except that Daimao is a "clone" of Kami. It would have been more fitting for Sabat to use Kami's voice instead of Piccolo's if anything since he is merely offspring...
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Post by NeptuneKai » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:05 pm

Vekurotto wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
bkev wrote:King Piccolo voice ftl, because he didn't have any difference from MaJunior besides a little less raspiness
So...you expect a clone to sound radically different from the being who was cloned?
Except that Daimao is a "clone" of Kami. It would have been more fitting for Sabat to use Kami's voice instead of Piccolo's if anything since he is merely offspring...
That would just sound funny. There is no way I could take an old grumpy man voice as a serious threat.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:11 pm

Vekurotto wrote:Except that Daimao is a "clone" of Kami.
He's not a clone, he's pure evil given form.

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Post by Pizzaguylol » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:13 pm

DB season sets would be great. Remastered or not, I don't care.
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