Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[angeldreamZ004]

Yeah I think the "God-Like" term is the most appropriate way to refer to it as well, it explains the "hybrid" visual with physical appearance not changing but the aura does, and being able to sense "half-ki" only, not the full extent.
After the 2015 movie, I think the closest we get to that as a visual indicator, is with SSJ1. In the ToP and Broly movie we see Goku and Vegeta using SSJ1 power without transforming. Basically "SSJ1-Like power"
(Which you could also use as a in-universe explanation for the Toei original Black Haired SSJ1)

[GreatSaiyaman123]

So SSJG never left the franchise. In RoF, base Goku being allowed to fight Final Form Freeza was because of that god power boost from BoG. Which backs up Toriyama's point that Goku does not "need" to transform into Red after absorbing it's power. Not that he can't turn into Red hair. Therefore if Goku can be sensed in base and blond during Bog and RoF then there is no God Ki and the two base is just that a non existent theory.

Problem is, the anime and the manga had completely different takes on it. In the anime SSJ Goku wasn't any weaker than his SSJG self, and went on to become even stronger. In the manga Goku never lost the form until the fight was over.