Asking Takao Koyama

[Sadala Elite]

One thing people seem to forget is that Koyama is the actual writer of all 13 Z movies (meaning that he did the power-scaling) and he has flat out stated that intended Z-Broly to be strongest Pre-BoG character in the franchise and never intended Janemba & Hirudegarn to be stronger than him.

Another thing people forget is that the Z movies generally don't power-scale to the main canon (except Bojack Unbound and Bardock, Trunks & Tarble specials). Just compare Tree of Might to the canon Saiyan saga for example.

[DBZ Macky]

DBZ Expert, the screenshots you've provided themselves tell a different story than what we're interpreting.
The guy himself states that it'd be impossible to compare Broly and Cell's powers, but if he had to give his opinion anyways, he'd think Broly might be stronger.

He's not the kind of guy who'd dig through every single statement in guidebooks or pay extra attention to every line in the Manga and know exactly how Super Perfect Cell says in Volume 28 Chapter 415 Page No. 138 that he can destroy the Solar System. That's probably not how he spends his free time, and probably not what's on his mind the most when he's working either.

Also, Broly got 4 Movies of his own, depicting him as this hulking beast who's never defeated by the efforts of a single character unlike the other Movie villains. Try asking any casual DBZ fan on the streets who the Top 5 strongest guys in Dragon Ball Z are, and let me know if he doesn't mention Broly (if he's seen one of his movies).

[Shintoki]

I had a brief conversation with Takao Koyama and he seems to be really a Broli fanboy..

anyone still have those screenshots available to them?

[angeldreamZ004]

I had a brief conversation with Takao Koyama and he seems to be really a Broli fanboy..

anyone still have those screenshots available to them?

I think no one saved them, but given what a few users said in this thread years ago, I believe DBZ Expert (who also said "Broly fanboy") asked Koyama about Broly or some villain power scaling in the movies. I think he answered somethint close to this

Spoiler:

Why did Broli come back three times?
Because he’s the strongest. (laughs) Even including the TV anime, nobody exists in the world who’s stronger than Broli. I mean, even Vegeta, Prince of the Saiyans, was trembling in fear. (laughs) I felt that there’s no way that kind of mightiest being would die in a single outing. After all, there were kids who cried at Broli’s overwhelming strength when they saw Burn Up!! at Shueisha’s preview screening. (laughs) It’s always difficult coming up with an enemy for Goku, because I’d constantly have to escalate their strength. So, he ended up appearing three times.
This is true of Broli as well, but Goku & co. are always fighting against “an unbeatable foe”. Goku must win against such an enemy, so he has no choice but to defeat him when his enemy becomes overconfident and creates an opening. There’s absolutely no way he’d be able to win against someone like Broli if he used more orthodox methods. (laughs)

[Shintoki]

I had a brief conversation with Takao Koyama and he seems to be really a Broli fanboy..

anyone still have those screenshots available to them?

I think no one saved them, but given what a few users said in this thread years ago, I believe DBZ Expert (who also said "Broly fanboy") asked Koyama about Broly or some villain power scaling in the movies. I think he answered somethint close to this

Spoiler:

Why did Broli come back three times?
Because he’s the strongest. (laughs) Even including the TV anime, nobody exists in the world who’s stronger than Broli. I mean, even Vegeta, Prince of the Saiyans, was trembling in fear. (laughs) I felt that there’s no way that kind of mightiest being would die in a single outing. After all, there were kids who cried at Broli’s overwhelming strength when they saw Burn Up!! at Shueisha’s preview screening. (laughs) It’s always difficult coming up with an enemy for Goku, because I’d constantly have to escalate their strength. So, he ended up appearing three times.
This is true of Broli as well, but Goku & co. are always fighting against “an unbeatable foe”. Goku must win against such an enemy, so he has no choice but to defeat him when his enemy becomes overconfident and creates an opening. There’s absolutely no way he’d be able to win against someone like Broli if he used more orthodox methods. (laughs)

that's a shame then. there were some crucial information regarding Toei continuity cell in relation to broly. seems that koyama sometimes delete his comments so it's wild that they're not preserved

[VegettoEX]

At the risk of myself adding to the confusion over (1) fans badgering this poor old guy on various platforms, (2) with questions and answers moving between various languages that's clearly losing nuance and intent, (3) resurrecting old threads, (4) [redacted thoughts about this type of content]...

I still feel the need to intervene and help, so the images are visible through an archive of this thread on the Way Back Machine-

https://web.archive.org/web/20230429170 ... hp?t=45173

Locking this thread due to its age / content / the other aforementioned items.