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Post by DBHighDefinition » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:57 pm

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Post by DBHighDefinition » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:00 pm

Shouldn't the title be spelt "Oozaru" Instead of "Ozaru"? Or is that the proper Rōmaji way of spelling it?
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Post by omegacwa » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:16 pm

Actually, that picture looks very accurate to the oozaru face, just without hair. I hope they add hair, if not, well, whatever, nothing I can do. But I have to say that looks like a model, or a bust or something, not something anyone would wear, like a mask or anything.

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:18 pm

DBHighDefinition wrote:Shouldn't the title be spelt "Oozaru" Instead of "Ozaru"? Or is that the proper Rōmaji way of spelling it?
It is indeed a long "O" sound that starts the word, but your spelling all depends upon your own personal preference for expressing long "vowel sounds" from Japanese. For example, I don't write the main character's name as "Gokuu" (or "Gokû"), but simply as "Goku". Of course, I (and others) aren't always completely consistent about usage (I do write "Oozaru" and not "Ozaru" or "Ôzaru"), but yep.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:32 pm

Are you people really shocked that it looks nothing like a giant ape beast thingy? Piccolo is freakin white! Well whatever, this is really the only thing we have to go by of what we are assuming is a final product. Even if it is... the whole movie is a little out of whack, why would you think the one thing they'd get right was a giant ape. It looks like they are going for more of an alien type transformation then anything else. Kinda creepy, kinda different.

This is obviously not the DragonBall we know. This is going to be a totally different way of telling the DragonBall story. I think it's interesting seeing a different side. It's not like they are erasing the anime or the manga in favor of this... Those will always be there. So relax. :P

But whatever, if you hate this movie that's OK. We are all DragonBall fans. We all like the series for different reasons. But this... this is something completely new for all of us. We have no idea where this is going to go. We all should just take what we see with a little more of an opened mind. I think the time for expecting an exact translation from anime\manga to live action is over. We know it's going to be very different.

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Post by Adey » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:34 pm

The team behind the movie obviously have a lot of creative influence and it seems like they're just using Dragonball as a slight reference and source but putting their own ideas in to it, hence the lack of monkey, and I can accept that.

Honestly though, just add fur to that thing and it'll be good enough for me. I'd say it looks a bit TOO alien-like but hey, that's what Goku is right?

Could stand to be a bit taller though...

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Post by DBHighDefinition » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:38 pm

How exactly will Goku transform anyway? Does it stay faithful and be a full moon transformation, or what? I know he doesn't have a tail, so i'm just curious how that would work.
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Post by Herms » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:55 pm

Does Goku not have a tail in the sense that Saiyans don't have tails in the movie, or simply that it's been cut off like his eventually is in the original? If the later, than maybe his tail will instantly regrow at just the right moment, like it did for Gohan during the fight with Vegeta.
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Post by Dayspring » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:07 pm

I'm ignoring the drama llamas, so sorry if what I'm saying was already mentioned:

We know for a fact that this is not the martial arts sci-fi epic of DBZ, rather the movie is a loose re-imagining of the martial arts fantasy DB of the Piccolo saga. We also know that the Dragonballs have the ability to "bind mankind." Lastly, so far we know Goku is the chosen one "just because."

Since there's no Saiyans and lots of Demons in this movie, "Oozaru" may just be super-strong demons that the DBs will turn its wielders into (Goku is given a DB on his 18th birthday, afterall) if Piccolo has his way. It wouldn't work to say Goku is the chosen one simply because, "by the way, he's an alien who transforms into a King Kong howler monkey." In a years long show, something like that got used to expand and develop the show. In a 2-hr movie, it would be a randomly useless Deus Ex Machina that would make the film laughable.

My thoughts: worth waiting to see how it pans out. This isn't a live-action retelling of anything DB, which seems to be what people both want and expect. Rather, it's an entirely new martial arts fantasy movie loosely inspired by Pilaf and Piccolo saga DB. It's the DB equivalent of the live-action Transformers.
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Post by Onikage725 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:07 pm

Herms wrote:Does Goku not have a tail in the sense that Saiyans don't have tails in the movie, or simply that it's been cut off like his eventually is in the original? If the later, than maybe his tail will instantly regrow at just the right moment, like it did for Gohan during the fight with Vegeta.
I've been wondering about that for quite awhile. To my knowledge, it hasn't been established one way or the other yet.
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Post by Dayspring » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:09 pm

Herms wrote:Does Goku not have a tail in the sense that Saiyans don't have tails in the movie, or simply that it's been cut off like his eventually is in the original? If the later, than maybe his tail will instantly regrow at just the right moment, like it did for Gohan during the fight with Vegeta.
Hmmm... Maybe this pic is therefore a "new" transformation; full moon = Oozaru, whereas solar eclipse = mysterious hybrid?
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:20 pm

Hmmm... Maybe this pic is therefore a "new" transformation; full moon = Oozaru, whereas solar eclipse = mysterious hybrid?
You might have somthing there. They did show something like that in the trailer...

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Post by Dayspring » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:41 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:
Hmmm... Maybe this pic is therefore a "new" transformation; full moon = Oozaru, whereas solar eclipse = mysterious hybrid?
You might have somthing there. They did show something like that in the trailer...

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Ah, I didn't notice the full moon. I thought it was a different stage of the eclipse before.

I wouldn't be surprised if "Oozaru" is the name of the demon derived from the eclipse, whereas an SSJ knock-off is called "Saiyajin," which is what Goku will become when exposed to a Full Moon.
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Post by Tsukento » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:41 pm

If that's "mid-transformation" then it's still wrong.

For starters, that thing going on on the top of his head should be formed through hair, not his own skin or skull. It ultimately looks like really obvious rubber with the way they have it set up. Next is if they're going for a monkey/ape look, monkeys and apes don't have fish-colored skin.

Just about every time Goku's transformation is in progress, his pupils disappear the very moment his body begins to shift. Whatever is around his eyes doesn't look natural, nor looks like that of a monkey or ape. Also, the jaw should have already started to bulge out as his nose changed shape. At this point, Goku's body should also begin bulking up (and growing heavy amounts of fur).

So what does Goku look like here? A cross between some sort of fish, monkey, vampire thing.
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Post by DBHighDefinition » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:45 pm

So what does Goku look like here? A cross between some sort of fish, monkey, vampire thing.
Awesome.
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Post by Tsukento » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:46 pm

Also thought I'd bring this to attention. An interview with Joon Park about the movie.
I entered the audition wearing a hat and shorts, and as soon as the director looked at me, he said “You are Yamcha.” I still can’t believe it. I won’t appear the first 25% of the movie, but I will later on.
Anyone else kinda...face palm at that like I did?
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Post by DBHighDefinition » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:48 pm

Tsukento wrote:Also thought I'd bring this to attention. An interview with Joon Park about the movie.
I entered the audition wearing a hat and shorts, and as soon as the director looked at me, he said “You are Yamcha.” I still can’t believe it. I won’t appear the first 25% of the movie, but I will later on.
Anyone else kinda...face palm at that like I did?
I face fisted...
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Post by Onikage725 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:06 pm

Tsukento wrote:If that's "mid-transformation" then it's still wrong.

For starters, that thing going on on the top of his head should be formed through hair, not his own skin or skull. It ultimately looks like really obvious rubber with the way they have it set up.
Well, I think the mid-transformation theory goes hand in hand with the CG fur theory. In which case, they would need to mold something in the shape of the skull. Let's be honst, Ozaru have big heads. They aren't gonna just gel a massive foot-long clump of hair in the rough shape of an Ozaru skull.
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Post by Tsukento » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:18 pm

Onikage725 wrote:Well, I think the mid-transformation theory goes hand in hand with the CG fur theory. In which case, they would need to mold something in the shape of the skull. Let's be honst, Ozaru have big heads. They aren't gonna just gel a massive foot-long clump of hair in the rough shape of an Ozaru skull.
Even if they use CG for the hair, the head shouldn't be forming the way it is.
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Re: Live Action Ozaru Goku leaked?

Post by MisterFlashdude » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:23 pm

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It seems like quite a lot of cranial detail for something they'd intend to cover up with CGI fur to me.

I'd go with the mid-transformation theory, or just throw it in the fucked-up-barrel with the rest of this movie's... uh... "original" twists on the story.

Only time will tell.

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