Dragon Ball Z Being Re-edited and Re-dubbed for HDTV

Stargazer · Post by **Stargazer** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:35 pm

http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php ... tcount=125

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:48 pm

Here's the picture:

Check out the 16:9 screenshots, eh?

Post by **Herms** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:59 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:The manga's just a bastardization of Journey to the West!

Journey to the West is just a bastardization of the historical pilgrimage of Xuanzang!

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:05 pm

Yi Xing Long wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I'm guessing that they can cut out a lot of the filler and standing around and probably get somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 episodes without losing anything that was in the manga.

Of course, as stated in previous posts, that's just a rumor from 2ch or something.
I highly doubt they would be able to get anywhere near 100 episodes just by cutting out filler episodes and scenes with nothing but standing around. If that's all they did then I would expect somewhere in the range of 200 episodes. But really, they may not be cutting anything at all. I would rather have them not cut anything actually. If they want to do an abridged series with completely re-done animation and art direction, that's fine, but there is no need to bastardize the original TV series.

As a fan of the manga, I would actually rather see an abridged version where they cut out the senseless standing around, the majority of the filler episodes (there's a couple I really like!), the stock-footage that they play to drag out fights, the random crap added in to fights that gets a nice big Retcon Punch an episode or two later (see Trunks vs. Perfect Cell and compare it to the manga version), and other such things.

There's actually a whole lot than can be cut out that wasn't in the manga. Roughly 100 episodes doesn't seem all that off to me. If they don't cut it down, I'll still watch it. But, if they do cut it down, I'll watch it religiously.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:14 pm

Kendamu wrote:the random crap added in to fights that gets a nice big Retcon Punch an episode or two later (see Trunks vs. Perfect Cell and compare it to the manga version)

Explain please!

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:21 pm

Yeah, less flashbacks would definitely be a bonus, if that what Kendamu is talking about.

I mean, after Cell returned, they had a flashback of something that literally happened like 3 minutes before.

B · Post by B » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:24 pm

Dragon Ball KAI?

Lolwut?

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:22 pm

B wrote:Dragon Ball KAI?

Lolwut?

I'm wondering why the hell they'd rename it.

xzero · Post by **xzero** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:32 pm

Pain wrote:
B wrote:Dragon Ball KAI?

Lolwut?
I'm wondering why the hell they'd rename it.

Probably because it has to be distinguished from DBZ. Technically they're two different products. Though I don't think this is the best way to distinguish it. Take Metal Gear Solid. The remake on the GCN was called "Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes." They didn't change it to "Metal Gear: Twin Snakes." If, for whatever reason, they want to call it Dragon Ball Kai, it should at least have been "Dragon Ball Z: Kai" or something to remind fans that it is DBZ (not that most couldn't figure it out anyway).

Of course, Kai has the letter "A" in it, and if you play with the letter"K" you can make it into the letter "F" and ... oh my god... they're making Dragon Ball AF ... I.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:36 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Here's the picture:

Check out the 16:9 screenshots, eh?

Can we get some screen shots of those episodes to compare what kind of cropping/extending we're getting?

Yi Xing Long · Post by **Yi Xing Long** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:40 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote:but there is no need to bastardize the original TV series.
The anime is a bastardization of the original manga in the first place!

The manga's just a bastardization of Journey to the West!

The only part of Dragon Ball that's even loosely based on Journey to the West is the very beginning (volume 1 and 2).

As for the anime being a bastardization of the manga, that is ridiculous. It is an adaption of the manga. But when you take a TV series that already exists and chop it up, add new audio and present it as "refreshed," I would say that's a bastardization. As long as they don't completely change the pacing and cut out good filler scenes, I am fine with it.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:43 pm

Yi Xing Long wrote: As long as they don't completely change the pacing and cut out good filler scenes, I am fine with it.

It's only a bastardization if it's bad. *cough*cough*Funi dub*cough*DB Evolution*cough

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:45 pm

I think it is absolutely fricking hilarious how the show will be called Dragonball Kai when the guy who first brought us confirmation of this (and will be one of our best sources for first hand summaries and reviews) is called kei17!

KaiserNeko wrote:...I'd really, really appreciate a cut-down version of the show, myself. It's not like whatever they could cut you haven't already seen before or couldn't very easily see again...

Why am I not at all surprised that you are excited for a "cut-down" *cough*abridged*cough* version of the series?

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:51 pm

Yi Xing Long wrote:As for the anime being a bastardization of the manga, that is ridiculous. It is an adaption of the manga.

A completely bastardized adaptation of the manga...

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:52 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote: As long as they don't completely change the pacing and cut out good filler scenes, I am fine with it.
It's only a bastardization if it's bad. *cough*Any DB material that crosses America's borders*cough*

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:56 pm

desirecampbell wrote:Can we get some screen shots of those episodes to compare what kind of cropping/extending we're getting?

Here's those two same shots from Season One:

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:00 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:Can we get some screen shots of those episodes to compare what kind of cropping/extending we're getting?
Here's those two same shots from Season One:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/K ... 214948.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/K ... 215323.jpg

SSj Kaboom wrote:Here's the picture:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/K ... kaipe4.jpg

Check out the 16:9 screenshots, eh?

Looks like the screenshots in the scan are cropped like the Season Sets are... god damn it Toei.

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:02 pm

*Laughs hysterically*

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:03 pm

I think SJ was being lazy and that TOEi will actually stretch the picture.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:04 pm

Taku128 wrote:Looks like the screenshots in the scan are cropped like the Season Sets are... god damn it Toei.

It's all good though. TOEI did it so its totally "A" OK.

Kanzenshuu

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