Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

[Hellspawn28]

Have there been any new updates with the manga yet?

[JulieYBM]

Has their been any new updates with the manga yet?

I fear not, there's been no update since 2/9 on his blog.

[M4rb]

New pages!
http://blog.livedoor.jp/toyble/

[Herms]

Well, once again Toyble is putting up some rough drafts for the time being, which he'll finish up later. He knows that there are probably people who don't want to read mere rough drafts, but he really wanted to update with something this month, and all he had finished was one page.

163
Si Xing Long: [r] We’ve got to talk with Yi Xing Long. It’s extremely urgent. [l] Call him for us.
Liang Xing Long: [r] Right, right [l] You’re always such a slave-driver…

164
Trunks: Hah
Bra: Brother, oh thank goodness!
Trunks: …! Bra
Trunks: Owy…
Bra: Are you alight!?
Vegeta: [r] Hmph, pathetic. [l] That's what you get for slacking off in your training.
Trunks: …!
Pan: I’m glad you’re awake, Trunks!

165
Trunks: Goten!
Videl: Don’t worry. It looks like he’s just passed out.
Bulma: Hey, to continue the conversation from before…
Bulma: Essentially, that monster will come out again in 1 month?
Vegeta: That’s right
Pan: Bu…but
Bulma: If only Son-kun were here at a time like this…

166
Pan: So, grandpa can’t be brought back to life, right?
Vegeta: It’s impossible.
Vegeta: Kakarot isn’t dead. He left the living world of his own volition.
Gohan: …Yeah. Either way, Xicor was even more powerful than father was before he left.
Gohan: So even if father were here, he couldn’t defeat him…

[caejones]

Just today I realized, "Hey, where's Pan been during all of this?". And now it's like, "Pan~! ".

If thankyous were money, it would be a shame if Herms wasn't debt free by now.

[Herms]

Tweaked the translation a bit. One thing I glossed over before was a little gag when Liang Xing Long complains about Si Xing Long ordering him around. There’s a phrase in Japanese that goes 人使いが荒い/hito-dzukai ga arai, literally meaning to use people in a rough way, and applied to those who work others too hard (hence I translated it as “slave-driver”). However, what Liang actually says about Si is 龍使いが荒い/ryuu-dzukai ga arai, that he uses dragons in a rough way. It’s just a jokey reference to how Liang and co. are dragons and not humans, like if instead of saying that something wasn’t humanly possible, Liang would say it wasn’t “draconically possible”. That sort of thing. I wasn’t sure how to convey that in English, and just left it out. Any ideas for how I could work that joke in without it sounding really odd? Incidentally, on its own the phrase 龍使い/ryuu-dzukai means “dragon-user” and is sometimes applied in Japanese fantasy fiction to people who control or tame dragons. The dragon master trainers in the Pokemon series, for instance, are called ドラゴンつかい /doragon-tsukai in Japanese.

[JulieYBM]

I'm interested in what position Yi Zing Long plays in this other word. Might a duel be in order, or meerly a toss of words?

[Herms]

I'm guessing Yi's a good guy now. Liang pretended to be evil because apparently that's his way of having fun, but he seems to be on basically friendly terms with Goku. I think since Goku beat the evil dragons and purged the dragonballs of their Minus Energy, this effectively turned the dragons good.

Oh, and I just noticed that the dragons' castle apparently has an intercom system.

[JulieYBM]

Yeah, I wouldn't doubt they're 'good' now, but I still think Yi Xing Long will be in a position of authority and power that might conflict with Son's wishes. Just a small, nigh baseless hunch, but I think it'd be fun to see a small joust between the two before he makes his merry way on home...

[desirecampbell]

New Toyble #DBAF page 163 is up, with draft pages for 164-166 http://desirecampbell.com/dbaf

[spencer7x7]

New pages yay!!!!!

[Scarz]

The comic is finally is growing on me but I'm afraid to get my hopes up. It only takes one stupid line, action, or turn of a story to annoy me again. I blame DBM for this!

[Rocketman]

"Oh Gokuuuuu, why aren't you heeeeere? We're all so useless without GOKU~~~"

Vegeta: "Y'know, I'm like his exact equal...we could fuse without any power-matching faffing about..."

"GOKUUUUUUUUU~~~~~"

[rereboy]

Yap, a fusion between Vegeta and Gohan while in SSJ4 would kill anything. I don`t see why they are worried or why they need Goku.

[caejones]

Clearly, they need to attempt this.
Although I suspect Vegeta would be reluctant as usual... o_o.

[rereboy]

Clearly, they need to attempt this.
Although I suspect Vegeta would be reluctant as usual... o_o.

In GT Vegeta was the one who suggested it. And this is a continuation to GT so...

Besides, they have a lot of time to practice the fusion and even try to become a little stronger on their own. They have a whole month. If they didn`t have the fusion, it would be a problem. With the fusion a month is way more than enough.

And Goten and Trunks can also fuse... That way they won`t be as useless as they were in the previous fight.

[Olivier Hague]

Any ideas for how I could work that joke in without it sounding really odd?

"All right, all right... Chill, dragon..."

(I'm so sorry)

[Scarz]

"Oh Gokuuuuu, why aren't you heeeeere? We're all so useless without GOKU~~~"

Vegeta: "Y'know, I'm like his exact equal...we could fuse without any power-matching faffing about..."

"GOKUUUUUUUUU~~~~~"

For once, I would like to see the characters do SOMETHING without Goku's help. But we don't know yet if Goku will be there to help them fight Xicor in one month... Who the hell am I kidding? Of course he would!

[caejones]

Eh. Would "Goku pwns Xicor - Xicor powers up and pwns Goku - Vegehan pwns SUPER! Xicor - some other plottwist happens" work?
Not that I expect that.
The way Xicor and Lila work character-wise, I think Goku showing up would be interesting more on a character level than an action level... Hmmf.
*Tends to forget that Xicor is under the dellusion that Goku ruled the universe and considers himself his heir* XD

[caejones]

The rest of that page of Tapion backstory will be done, hopefully, by next week.

Here's the two new pages:

Kaioshin: T-That's right, she should have been killed...
By that detestable Majin Boo...
What's going on here?

Xicor: Heh!
Don't even joke!

Vegeta: It's useless! Gohan doesn't have a chance.

Trunks: N-No way!
I-I've got it! Father, all you and Gohan have to do is fuse...!

Vegeta: No good...
That's not the problem...
Nothing will work against him...
Damn it all! This is one fine mess!!

Gohan: Th-The difference in our levels is so huge...
This is bad! I don't have a chance...!
I can't protect the Earth!!
What should I do?
Please tell me...Father!!

What the GT?