Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again

[desirecampbell]

While I like the idea in theory, I don't think "The Unofficial Dragon Ball Wiki" is the way to go. That just makes it sound derivative of and less than the actual Dragon Ball Wiki. It implies that the Dragon Ball Wiki is official or comprehensive or any other positive adjective.

In that case, I think Innagadadavida suggestion of "Encyclopedia Dragon Ball" or something like that would be good. "Encyclopedia" certainly sounds better than wiki or wikia.

I'll throw my support behind that as well.

[Innagadadavida]

I would also like to mention that the Dragon Ball with the puzzle pieces is my favorite logo.

[Wobbuffet]

In that case, I think Innagadadavida suggestion of "Encyclopedia Dragon Ball" or something like that would be good. "Encyclopedia" certainly sounds better than wiki or wikia.

How about "Encyclopedia Dragon Ball - The only wiki about Dragon Ball that actually cites its sources!"?

[Kaboom]

How about "Encyclopedia Dragon Ball - The only wiki about Dragon Ball that actually cites its sources!"?

Or even better, "the only wiki about Dragon Ball that cites anything WORTH citing!"

[Innagadadavida]

How about "Encyclopedia Dragon Ball - The only Dragon Ball Wiki".

[Herms]

Should we even call this a wiki, since only forum members would be able to edit it? I guess that's not really outside the definition of a wiki, but I was thinking that one of the advantages of calling it an "encyclopedia" would be it'd be easier to justify not allowing just anyone to edit it.

[Gaffer Tape]

I agree with that. I also don't think there should be any digs at the Dragon Ball Wiki in the title or anywhere else. It looks unprofessional, and, to an outsider who doesn't know any better, it would make us look petty and immature in comparison to them. I don't think any comparisons should be drawn to the Dragon Ball Wiki, be it in name, description, or tagline.

[Innagadadavida]

I would like the Wiki to eventually have a page for each episode including a plot synopsis, credits, and a gallery. I know Kanzentai already has this covered, but I believe it should be our goal to create an all-encompassing Dragon Ball Encyclopedia. We can include information that Kanzentai typically leaves out including major foreign air-dates and where to find them on foreign releases.

Also the format for the episodes can extend into the movies, even the three live-action movies.

Just something I was thinking about/getting excited over.

[Innagadadavida]

Here's another idea I had. What would you guys think of having an artist do original profile images for all the characters? I mean, someone who can sufficiently imitate the art of the show. Particularly the style of the era any given character appears most predominately. The reason I suggest this is because it would provide a professional level of consistency, and some originality to the wiki itself. Kind of an incentive to look around.

[JulieYBM]

Here's another idea I had. What would you guys think of having an artist do original profile images for all the characters? I mean, someone who can sufficiently imitate the art of the show. Particularly the style of the era any given character appears most predominately. The reason I suggest this is because it would provide a professional level of consistency, and some originality to the wiki itself. Kind of an incentive to look around.

With as many characters as there are in the franchise (not to mention items and locations, etc. etc.) we'll begin to run to risk of over complicating things. Sticking to screen captures or manga panel scans (each to be properly sourced, I would expect of the conditions of the coming guidelines) provide an official source for the art that will come with the pre-reached understanding that the art is going to be inconsistent merely by nature of being seperate pieces.

In woefully less polite-sounding words: I don't think you're offering a particularly good idea, in terms of sticking to being authoritative and professional as possible. 'Fan created profile pictures' seems like a gimmick the current popular Wikia would employ were they not of the less hardworking sort.

[Innagadadavida]

Well, professionalism would be the goal. They would have to be damn good pieces of art. Wikipedia, for example, has an entire group dedicated to constructing illustrations for some articles. It's not unheard of. And the gimmick wouldn't be that the fans created it, per say. The gimmick would be that this is a place where you can see something you've never seen before, among information you may have never heard.

Official artwork comes in many forms. Done by many people. "Official" simply means a person did it for profit.

[Kaboom]

I think Jacob's right. It's a good idea, but I'd say it'd ultimately be too large an undertaking for what's all-in-all a relatively minor aspect of the Wiki. We're talking DragonBall, here, with a cast of hundreds, if not thousands.

[desirecampbell]

Original art would only be appropriate where we have exact details on the subject but no visual representation. For Dragon Ball, it's just not useful for the majority of things we'd write about. Illustrations of characters would be useful if we never have a picture of them in official work, but if we never have an image of the subject then we're just making something up. For characters and items and such, if we don't see them in the series then we don't have any idea what they look like - cartoons and comics are very visually descriptive, not verbally descriptive, we don't get long paragraphs about what a characters or locations look like.

A great idea would be to create graphs and diagrams related to concepts that we have a lot of information on but don't get visual representations of. Such as height comparisons, world/galaxy maps, family/relationship trees.



Also, "official" actually means "sanctioned by the rights-holder". You can make money off of un-official work, and you can have official work created and distributed freely.

[JulieYBM]

To be honest, if there's no official visual depiction of something I (one lone user, of course) would prefer there be no image at all. An explanation as to why there is no image would be my preference. It'd be more uniform with staying in line with our use images of products with official sanction.

[Piccolo Daimao]

To be honest, if there's no official visual depiction of something I (one lone user, of course) would prefer there be no image at all. An explanation as to why there is would be my preference. It'd be more uniform with staying in line with our use images of products with official sanction.

I back this too.

[Gaffer Tape]

As do I. There's really no need for fan-made information, no matter how professional-looking it looks. It should be all facts, all official sources, otherwise it loses some credibility.

[Hellspawn28]

I was thinking for the wiki, what about we have some fun pages like tributes to Dragon Ball in other Media and pop media references in Dragon Ball?

A page similar to how the Evageeks wiki (Which I'm a memeber of) does with their page:

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Tributes_to_Ne ... ther_Media

I think it would be fun to have the wiki.

[caejones]

I'm not opposed to significant fan material (such as Toyble's AF, Team4star's DBZ abridged and DB:Multiverse) or references in culture (like the fusion dance on that one commercial... was it "Zoon"?).

But I think our priority should be getting extremely solid, factual information about the series out there. As much as possible, and as quickly as can be managed without loss of quality. I don't want to sound hateful or over dramatic, but the DB Wikia is kind of harmful to the already questionable intelligence of the DB community, and I think it important that we find an antidote for misinformation... and quickly.

That said, all for notable fan-works, tributes, pop-culture references, Etc. Just think factual information on the series proper needs to be thoroughly dealt with before we think about such things.

[Herms]

Yeah, I think priorities 1-10 should simply be assembling solid information on the basics. These ideas for extra stuff are neat, but they should be priority 11 or 12 or something, not something we should be focusing on much when word 1 of the wiki hasn't even been written.

[Hellspawn28]

References in culture would be a fun page to add, but pages for fan fiction like Toyble's AF should be not be used. I don't like how most wikis (Like the Godzilla wiki for example) use fan art and fiction for their wiki. They are fan fiction, and don't really play a importent part of the series.