DBZ Film Still On?

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Post by BleachTrunks » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:13 pm

Duo, they have a point. Rarely do you post where you don't regurgitate your manga>>anime viewpoint. When the topic calls for it, sure, then you have every right to get annoyed when people are ragging on about it. However, this topic has nothing to do with it and you have drawn a parallelism for the simple purpose of flaunting your preference once again.

"If my comment on the topic at hand happens to stir thoughts of the Manga, I'll post 'em." The problem is that every topic seems to stir these thoughts in you. People aren't posting their criticisms simply to be dicks(I would hope), but because they don't wanna be reminded constantly of that particular view you hold. Perhaps you could respect that and when you get the idea to throw a barb about the anime into your post, think to yourself, "does it really pertain to the topic at all?", before you hit submit.

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Post by Duo » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:18 pm

BleachTrunks wrote:Duo, they have a point. Rarely do you post where you don't regurgitate your manga>>anime viewpoint. When the topic calls for it, sure, then you have every right to get annoyed when people are ragging on about it. However, this topic has nothing to do with it and you have drawn a parallelism for the simple purpose of flaunting your preference once again.

"If my comment on the topic at hand happens to stir thoughts of the Manga, I'll post 'em." The problem is that every topic seems to stir these thoughts in you. People aren't posting their criticisms simply to be dicks(I would hope), but because they don't wanna be reminded constantly of that particular view you hold. Perhaps you could respect that and when you get the idea to throw a barb about the anime into your post, think to yourself, "does it really pertain to the topic at all?", before you hit submit.
This is an example of a post that might actually sway me in some way. Your polite demeanor is appreciated.

Though, above all else, why don't people bother using PM's for this?

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Post by BleachTrunks » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:35 pm

I never think to use PMs because I never have used or received them in the past. Perhaps I should start. Anyway, being polite is just good manners; besides, being hostile is just a quick way to no where. And, despite any problems I have had with the way you post, it is other's attacks on your posts that kind of annoy me more than anything else. Instead of 'talking' they 'yell', which is yet another quick way to no where.

As far as the movie goes I can't imagine it is still being considered at this point. My guess is that the idea for it was spawned simply due to the huge success DBZ had for a short period over here in the states and the movie studios' desire to cash in on said success. Now that it has died down and become 'cool' to hate on DBZ, the market can't look like it is there anymore to a movie executive. As Dayspring pointed out they don't have any new information.

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Post by B-kun » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:31 pm

Sorry to veer off topic, but I just want to say that I really don't think Jers was intending to "yell", BleachTrunks. She's normally pretty civil and.. I don't think I've ever seen her yell in the two years I've known her.

'course, it's possible you were talking about tarsonis and I just wasted my time, but eh.

I really don't want to start a fight or drag anything out, just wanted to point that out.

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Post by lost in thought » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:43 pm

Duo wrote:Guess what? It's not your job to tell me what I can and can't post. If my comment on the topic at hand happens to stir thoughts of the Manga, I'll post 'em. It's not like I go off on a rant/editorial spree everytime, I just said what I thought. You can get the hell over it.
Indeed, it is your right to post what is on your mind, but if in every topic you persist to make the conjecture that you prefer the manga, it loses its value. I mean seriously, do we really need to know, constantly, and consistently that you dislike the anime? Is it really that important to any overall topic?

And then to veer myself back on topic, I think that the movie was dead in the water from the start, and the sighting of uncontracted studios, whom later went on to deny their involvement may have entirely put the kibash onto the project entirely.

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Post by tarsonis » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:20 pm

I do think desirecampbell brings up a good point in that it wouldn't be like the DBZ we know. The script would differ as with other manga or comic book-to-movie translations. Same thing happens when they make movies based on games.

I've always thought it would be interesting if they made a movie that took place between sagas, in one of those several-year gaps. The three year span between Trunks' arrival and the android saga comes to mind. It could be a new story rather than a retelling of an existing saga or plotline.

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Post by Tenka-Ichi » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:49 am

Well if you think about it. If an adaptation of something was EXACTLY like the original, wouldn't that be considered plagiarism?

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Post by desirecampbell » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:51 am

Tenka-Ichi wrote:Well if you think about it. If an adaptation of something was EXACTLY like the original, wouldn't that be considered plagiarism?
No, it'd be considered perfect :D

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Post by Xyex » Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:16 am

Tenka-Ichi wrote:Well if you think about it. If an adaptation of something was EXACTLY like the original, wouldn't that be considered plagiarism?
No, because they bought the rights to make it, otherwise they wouldn't be able to adapt it either.
desirecampbell wrote:No, it'd be considered perfect :D
*Bzzz* No, thank you for playing. The word we were looking for is boring.

*ehem* On a more serious note, ya, that'd be bad, dull, boring, stupid, pointless, etc... I could go on forever but I wont. Going directly from one medium to the other without changing anything isn't possible but, even if it was, I wouldn't want to see it. I mean, I've seen the other version already, and in the case of DBZ I've seen it a lot so why would I want to see it again? No thanks. Something new please!
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Post by omae no kaasan » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:37 pm

wow.....that certainly got off topic....

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Post by oponok » Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:15 am

I don't think basing an animation directly on a comic would be boring, but into a nice, neat, compact two hour film would be very tricky.

Very tricky, indeed...
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Post by Duo » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:02 am

Sin City did it very well...but that was a different kind of Comic.

For Dragonball...if it were a straight adaptation, then they could easily do 3-4 episodes per volume...how that translation to movie, is that they would have to cut some of the stuff here and there, maybe tossed back for deleted Scenes...and cover the Saiyan Arc in one movie of 2+ hours.

The would have a lot of things cut out, maybe...but (and no one can yell at me for this, because it is basic analysis of a concept brought up before) most stuff that happens in the Manga has a point, so there isn't much that CAN be cut.

I can see the Namek Saga ending up to be...very long. Maybe two movies, but leading up and covering up to the Day of the Mechanical Men? Who knows...they could do a lot.

But it isn't happening, so boo-hoo, I just typed that all for nothing.

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