GT Time

[HP]

I see your point. I understand you all. You are right. You're right for yourselves. You are totally legitimate to take party of that way of viewing things.
Still, for me it's 10 years. It is. I see it as 10 years passed.
Promise I won't bug you with this again.

[Deus ex Machina]

You are most certainly entitled to your opinion HP, and you have atleast one "official" source on your side in the form of the Daizenshuu timeline. But since you believe it so strongly I'm sure you must have a very good reason why a 16 year old Pan still has no breasts, no hips, and is the same height as Gohan's knee.

And there's really no point in bringing Goku's sparadic height during DragonBall into the discussion; even putting aside the fact that at that time in the series Goku was never really meant to grow up, if you attribute his growth to his Saiayn heritage than it wouldn't apply to Pan, since she's 3/4's Human.

[HP]

16?! I say she is 14 in the begining and 15 in the end of GT!
You like a lot to mention the physical features of Pan. Why don't you talk about Bra? The girl even drives a car on the series!

[desirecampbell]

16?! I say she is 14 in the begining and 15 in the end of GT!
You like a lot to mention the physical features of Pan. Why don't you talk about Bra? The girl even drives a car on the series!

That's a good point - at what age are you allowed to drive in Japan?

[Nekoni]

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2022.html

Says 18. Though they could have an 'accompanied driving' thing like other countries...

However, now we must take into account what age Bulma drove at ^_^;

[desirecampbell]

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2022.html

Says 18. Though they could have an 'accompanied driving' thing like other countries...

However, now we must take into account what age Bulma drove at ^_^;

True. Bulma was dribing at 16 (according to my timeline... however credible that is).

[B-kun]

I think she stated she was 16 in the series.

[Deus ex Machina]

16?! I say she is 14 in the begining and 15 in the end of GT!
You like a lot to mention the physical features of Pan. Why don't you talk about Bra? The girl even drives a car on the series!

I don't have a time line right infront of me, but I firmly believe that GT took place over two years, not one. And even if she was only 15 at the end of GT, that's old enough to start showing a hint of puberty.

What's there to say about Bra? She doesn't look all that different from Pan, only her clothes are meant to make her look more sexy, like remember that mid-driff fad after Britney Spears? And just because she drove the car home once doesn't mean she's liscensed, it's kinda an emergency when a Super Saiyan attacks you and Vegeta tells you to take off.

I think she stated she was 16 in the series.

Nope, no character ages are ever given at all during the anime, which is why we're all left in this continuity error mess.

[desirecampbell]

16?! I say she is 14 in the begining and 15 in the end of GT!
You like a lot to mention the physical features of Pan. Why don't you talk about Bra? The girl even drives a car on the series!

I don't have a time line right infront of me, but I firmly believe that GT took place over two years, not one. And even if she was only 15 at the end of GT, that's old enough to start showing a hint of puberty.

What's there to say about Bra? She doesn't look all that different from Pan, only her clothes are meant to make her look more sexy, like remember that mid-driff fad after Britney Spears? And just because she drove the car home once doesn't mean she's liscensed, it's kinda an emergency when a Super Saiyan attacks you and Vegeta tells you to take off.

I think she stated she was 16 in the series.

Nope, no character ages are ever given at all during the anime, which is why we're all left in this continuity error mess.

Didn't Bulma ask Goku how old he was, and he answered wrong because he didn'y know hoe to count?

[Saiyan]

I think they're talkin' about GT.

[B-kun]

Oh, no. My post was referring to Bulma in Dragon Ball. I coulda sworn I remember she told Goku she was 16.

Sorry, should've been clearer. ^^;

[Deus ex Machina]

Ah, my bad B. I thought you were talking about Pan, I missed desirecampbell's post above yours. ^_^;

But everything else I stand by.

[Mr. Announcer]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. There are plenty of girls I know who show barely any sign of having gone through puberty at the age of 17, not to mention the fact that the japanese aren't really known for significant breast or hip-ness. I would say that at the start of GT, Pan looks pretty accurately 14 for the DB series, she just acts like she's five. Whiny little baby.....

[Jerseymilk]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. There are plenty of girls I know who show barely any sign of having gone through puberty at the age of 17, not to mention the fact that the japanese aren't really known for significant breast or hip-ness. I would say that at the start of GT, Pan looks pretty accurately 14 for the DB series, she just acts like she's five. Whiny little baby.....

That may be true in real life for Japanese females, but not in anime where the women tend to be very well endowed in about 98% of the series out there. DB is definitely no exception seeing as Toriyama designs very shapely females.

[Nekoni]

Women in many animes also tend to be incredibly skinny with beautiful eyes and constant lipstick, Toriyama doesn't have a -style- like other animes.

I think Pan's personality's quite realistic =D I mean, where I come from...

1 - 5 = innocent
5 - 7 = trying to be a bit cool
7 - 10 = the 'we know EVERYTHING about intercoarse and won't shut up' phase
11 - 14 = the 'I'm an ADULT now! Watch me drink coffee and smoke', and 'OMG! The guy who's 20 years older than me is so HOT!' phase-

XP at-least, that's what it's like where I'm from in england.

I remember when I was 11 (in a class of 11 year olds, ja) Do you know how popular you get at that age for having a little acne? Mon dieu!

[DB_Fan]

16?! I say she is 14 in the begining and 15 in the end of GT!
You like a lot to mention the physical features of Pan. Why don't you talk about Bra? The girl even drives a car on the series!

Young Gohan also drives a plane in Movie 3, and Oolong at the age of 9 also drives cars, and I don't believe that any of them has a license.
I always assumed that GT was 5 years after Z, making Pan 10 and Bra 11. The only reason why people say Bra is older is because of her outfit. I know lots of 10-12 year old girls who dress like that and also look older, but it is just that, the outfit. People also keep saying that Pan has no boobs, but Bra doesn't have them either.

[HP]

10 years for me.

[Bura]

Oh, no. My post was referring to Bulma in Dragon Ball. I coulda sworn I remember she told Goku she was 16.

I suppose you could count this as off-topic, but Bulma told Oolong that she was 16 years old when he had transformed into a handsome man.

And eh, Pan is taller than Goku... who was 12 as a child in the beginning of DB, when Pilaf first met him. So, if Pan is taller than Goku, does this make her older? If so, it would make more sense if she was INDEED 14 years old.

But on the other hand, she could be 9 and... Ugh! GT's just weird like this.
I always assumed Pan was 14 and Bra was 15, anyway. But that was me assuming things. ^^;

[Xyex]

And eh, Pan is taller than Goku... who was 12 as a child in the beginning of DB, when Pilaf first met him. So, if Pan is taller than Goku, does this make her older? If so, it would make more sense if she was INDEED 14 years old.

Well, Vegeta's older than Goku through the entire series, and he's shorter.

Not the same thing, I know, but it covers the point. Plus, well, 12 year old Goku was a midget anyway. I mean, he was *half* the height of Bulma. Most 12 year olds are fairly tall. Goku was, well, the size of a 6 year old. And I man litterally. Watch the one Jr. World Tournament ep with Goten. The announcer recognizes him as related to Goku and it shows an overlay. Goku was cubbier but the same height. And if that's not enough to convince you, look at Goten anytime he's near Roshi. You can see there that he matches to the same height that Goku did too.

[DB_Fan]

And eh, Pan is taller than Goku... who was 12 as a child in the beginning of DB, when Pilaf first met him. So, if Pan is taller than Goku, does this make her older? If so, it would make more sense if she was INDEED 14 years old.

Well, Vegeta's older than Goku through the entire series, and he's shorter.

Not the same thing, I know, but it covers the point. Plus, well, 12 year old Goku was a midget anyway. I mean, he was *half* the height of Bulma. Most 12 year olds are fairly tall. Goku was, well, the size of a 6 year old. And I man litterally. Watch the one Jr. World Tournament ep with Goten. The announcer recognizes him as related to Goku and it shows an overlay. Goku was cubbier but the same height. And if that's not enough to convince you, look at Goten anytime he's near Roshi. You can see there that he matches to the same height that Goku did too.

And when Goku was 12 he was taller then Krillin who was 13.