Greatest DBZ games of all time?

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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by Quebaz » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:21 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote: That's why I don't like most traditional fighting games. Being able to get out of a combo with well timed button presses should be a staple in all fighting games. Being juggled with no chance of getting out is pretty annoying.
Skull Girls might be a game for you then, It has a system where it prevents infinites, so there's no way there's a match that 100% of the time you are being comboed.
Edit: But then again, comeback mechanics like DBZ or Naruto games have, can be a problem, in which if you have more energy than your oponent, you just gotta make them teleport out of your combo until they have 0 KI, so you get a free hit.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:18 pm

That makes managing Ki or chakra important, which can give the game depth in a sense.
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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by Silkman3003 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:31 pm

>Budokai 3 comes the closest,

No it doesn't. Infinite world and Shin Budokai Another Road are far superior to Budokai 3 in the gameplay department

I like Budokai 3, the fighting engine is the best of the Dimps games.
How so? Shin Budokai AR and Infinite World have more offensive and defensive gameplay options in comparison to b3

>I think, but it still doesn't offer the same tactical complexity as something like Street Fighter, [/b]

They don't need to.


When you start Burst Limit you have THREE characters unlocked at the start. THREE. Most fighting type games give you 2/3rds or so of the roster, and have you unlock bonus characters.

You could download a save.

There is no reason to ever fire ki blasts at your opponent

The use of ki blasts in the budokai games in general are useless, considering they can easily be dodged/countered/blocked. I'm not sure what your point is on here??? I thought you were going to call out the fact that cancel combos are practically useless in BL when considering that ki recharge is to great.


>Dragon Rushes happen far too much.


Really? Using Dragon Rushes of all things? Dragon Rush is useless when considering that they are based on luck, and ultimately unsafe. DR require the use of going into hypermode, which is an unsafe mode all together because they open you up to a cancel combo once it's done . If anything you should say how ultimately useless it is and how it shouldn't even be in the game in the first place.

Budokai 3 has flaws, but using DR to say they "Happen too much" is making me scratch my head.
Roland_ELoG wrote:I've heard it said that the Dimps games are better than the Spike games because the characters are different... but are they?
The fact that characters in Shin Budokai AR have different strategies, different cancel set ups', juggle set ups, unique Ki cancelling set ups, differences in priority makes your entire post "moot" when it comes to questioning "uniqueness" in the budokai games .

This even extends into Infinite World where character chains and cancel combos are different, with characters having different instant guard break attacks . Yeah you heard that characters are different because they were right and you went on some some " budokai games have some basic shit" with the intent to try to rebute that statement, which quite frankly has jack to do with anything and doesn't negate that point at all.

Also, Budokai 3 is the most unbalanced DIMPS game, I mean, when of your roster doesn't have Ultimates simply because, then obviously there's something wrong. They kinda tried to fix that with IW, problem was, most of the new ultimates were SB2 style which clashed with the others
What are you talking about? Budokai 3 isn't the most "imbalanced game" , that goes to Shin Budokai Another Road when considering the huge gap in actual tiers, broken piccolo, and the fact that some of the roster is practically useless in comparison to the top tiers. You have guys like Piccolo who can SSS you from a huge distance that negates your own characters priority.

And this isn't even getting into the S Starter>R Starter in general nonsense. Granted , some characters don't have ultimates in B3, but they aren't even that great anyway since they also required the use of hyper mode, and even if you combo'd your character into an ultimate, your opponent could lessen the damage. compared to atleast SBAR where characters have ultimates that can safely be combo'd into, with unique ones like bardocks that can be cancelled into other cancel combos.
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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by Quebaz » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:54 pm

Silkman3003 wrote:
Also, Budokai 3 is the most unbalanced DIMPS game, I mean, when of your roster doesn't have Ultimates simply because, then obviously there's something wrong. They kinda tried to fix that with IW, problem was, most of the new ultimates were SB2 style which clashed with the others
What are you talking about? Budokai 3 isn't the most "imbalanced game" , that goes to Shin Budokai Another Road when considering the huge gap in actual tiers, broken piccolo, and the fact that some of the roster is practically useless in comparison to the top tiers. You have guys like Piccolo who can SSS you from a huge distance that negates your own characters priority.
I meant from a casual point of view, your "dafuq-are-cancels-guy" wouldn't care about that, they are just wondering why Raditz doesn't have an Ultimate.
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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by ZeroAnnihilated » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:48 pm

I want to point out the inaccuracies in this discussion board, but most of them are based on opinion and I would be wrong to try.

Hmm... "greatest games of all time"?

Most people don't understand the true depth of (insert game here). Much less to know the true depth of TWO OR MORE games in order to judge and compare them accurately. Not to mention, fighting games are so different these days (due to the inevitable evolution of gaming) that such judgement cannot be measured on only one game's construct. One must consider the construct of both games to be accurate and even then, the result would still be an opinion.
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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:14 pm

Budokai 3 may not have the best gameplay of all the DBZ games, but I'd say it more than makes up for that with a good story, solid roster, and an overall DBZ feel. It's OST is also one of the best soundtracks in any DBZ game.
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Post by SuperSaiyan2 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:05 pm

My favourite game is the original Raging Blast. Sure it was lacking a little bit in its character roster, but it gave me the classic story mode which I love. Also I had fun getting my ass kicked online, lmao.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:35 am

Raging Blast was a classy lady. ;) Infinite World had some other issues that keeps it a peg below Budokai 3 in my estimation. It gets a pretty serious pegging, actually. As for the Shin Budokai games... they're on the PSP, a system I hate more than literally any other system ever created. Battery life, disc access noise, godawful analog nub. All things that make each and every PSP game a chore in new and unique ways.

I don't want to create an itemized response to your post because that would take a lot of quoting and take up too much space. And nobody would read it anyway. :)

As for Dragon Rushes, you're right. Not sure what I meant by that. I don't think I ever actually use them, since the setup is too difficult. I get thrown into them by AI opponents consistently though.

My point is, making a good Dragon Ball Z game is like making any licensed game. You either stick closer to the source material, at the risk of making your game boring (oh my god, story mode again!? I can't wait to relive the exact same story some more times), or you take a departure from the source material, with the contrary risk of deviating too far from the feel of it.
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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:03 am

To me, its a tie between Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 3. Super DBZ is a close runner up, but as fun of a game as it is, it ultimately lacks a few things that make it feel like a DBZ game.
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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by dodge2461 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:47 pm

Best RPG: Dragon Ball Z: Attack of the Sayians!

Best Fighting Game: Tie between Budokai 3 and Super DBZ.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:07 am

As long as we can all agree that Burst Limit was garbage.

Oh hello can of worms. Mind if I open you? *Pssshhhhhhhht* Awright.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:26 am

Roland_ELoG wrote:As long as we can all agree that Burst Limit was garbage.

Oh hello can of worms. Mind if I open you? *Pssshhhhhhhht* Awright.
I put my fair share of time into Burst Limit honestly. It was the first next gen game so I didn't hate it.
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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:52 pm

Blade wrote:
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1. Legend of the Super Saiyan
2. Legacy of Goku series
If Attack of the Saiyans had included Namek/Frieza that would have been my favorite RPG one.
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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:04 pm

Silkman3003 wrote: There is no reason to ever fire ki blasts at your opponent

The use of ki blasts in the budokai games in general are useless, considering they can easily be dodged/countered/blocked. I'm not sure what your point is on here??? I thought you were going to call out the fact that cancel combos are practically useless in BL when considering that ki recharge is to great.
I mix my Ki blasts in with my cancel combos. With Goku here's how I do it, after a K,K,K,K,K + >P,K,K,K combo I throw in a quick Kamehameha and if the opponent has low energy I finish off all that with 3 teleport hits. :P
>Dragon Rushes happen far too much.
They almost never happen to me. Considering I cancel combo my opponents to the point where they're mostly dead before getting the chance to activate burst rush mode anyway so Dragon Rush is not an issue for me. And I don't use it either. The only battle where it happens to me is the Cooler fight on Namek because you can't defend/block against anything.
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Re: Greatest DBZ games of all time?

Post by Black_Liger » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:28 am

The Dbz Games I've enjoyed the most and have a dear part in my memories are.


Budokai 3

Super Gokuden

Super Dragon Ball Z (was GREAT with friends).
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Post by Codarik » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:02 am

Raging Blast 2. It had the most "fun" factor.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:18 am

Budokai 3! FTW!! :D
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Post by TheUltimateVegito » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:55 pm

Tenkaichi 3. Now that is a true DBZ fighter.

For story mode I'd say Budokai 3 due to branching paths and hidden scenes or Budokai 1 for telling the story best.

For games modes I'd say Raging Blast 1 or Tenkaichi 2/3.

Also, Legacy of Goku 2 and Supersonic Warriors are my favorite handheld DBZ games.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:12 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Not saying that this is the best source. But didn't Budokai 3 win Fighting game of the year or something like that?
No, but Tenkaichi 2 did get an award from X-Play (who normally dislike anime video games) and it was a runner-up for IGN.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:27 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Not saying that this is the best source. But didn't Budokai 3 win Fighting game of the year or something like that?
No, but Tenkaichi 2 did get an award from X-Play (who normally dislike anime video games) and it was a runner-up for IGN.
Oh Budokai 3 was greatest hits am I right now?

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