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Post by The S » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:35 pm

That's it... I'm fed up with trying to improve the Wikipedia articles regarding Dragon Ball. Two articles I've started have the biggest morons in the DB world I've ever seen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tullece

Okay... these people will not stop saying that DBZ Gaiden was an OVA. Isn't that the exact thing that VegettoEX has gone out of his way to prove it wasn't?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Bal ... _Adventure
I just watched the censored Uranai Baba FUNimation dub and can't find any record of Akuman's name being "Spike" in the dub... and yet there's one troublemaker keeps changing it to that and saying that's what it was in the dub!

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Post by Taku128 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:41 pm

Wikipedians can be annoying sometimes, esspecially when they're dead set on something being the truth or not.

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Post by Maphisto86 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:22 am

You will find such people anywhere in life or on the internet. It all takes so much patience... patience none of us have. :roll:

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Post by Blitzen » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:48 am

'An OVA is an anime specifically made for the video market, which won't be shown on TV nor in the cinemas, only released in VHS/LD/DVD.

"Plan..." was released in VHS in August 1993 and was never shown on TV nor in the cinemas.

The Playdia video-game, wich used footage from this OVA, was released in August 1994, a year later.

Now, please think a little... How could "Plan..." possibly be "videogame footage" if the videogame wasn't released until a year after the release of the anime on VHS ?'
He does actually make a point. As for whether or not the video was supposed to be game footage or not, it still basically stands that it went to video first, so technically it's an OVA. Course that wont fly over here on these forums, same with how I think Tullece (however accurate) is still not the 'correct' name.

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Post by Eclipse » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:46 am

Ekh, I'm really angry at some of the idiots at Wikipedia. For the past while now, I've dedicated my time to fixing up some of the lesser known articles (Such as one about the Dragon Balls. And a crappy created one about LOG2 which I cleaned up considerably)

But as far as I'm concerned, most of the Dragon Ball-related articles (with the exceptions of Majin Buu, Freeza, and Goku which are all former GA's) are crappily done. So yeah, I've come to no longer trust Wikipedia when it comes to Dragon Ball.

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Post by tarsonis » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:07 am

I've made countless edits to various Dragon Ball articles. I generally have to clean up after people have made entries with careless spelling and grammar.

The worst thing I've seen though is the crazy amount of people who actually think Mr. Satan's article should be called "H.ercule", simply because it's an English wikipedia and we go by Funimation's dub. (WTF? Since when does that matter? Mr. Satan is the official name). There was a long feud about it a while ago and I tried my best to convince people the guy's name is Mr. Satan (and that H.ercule is completely made up), but no luck.

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Post by Casual Matt » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:21 am

The S wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Bal ... _Adventure
I just watched the censored Uranai Baba FUNimation dub and can't find any record of Akuman's name being "Spike" in the dub... and yet there's one troublemaker keeps changing it to that and saying that's what it was in the dub!
That's weird. How many dubs are there. We know the FUNi dub didn't call him Spike, did they? I know for sure that the Blue Water dub (the one with Zoe Slusar as Goku, which was actually quite enjoyable) called him The Blue Devil. And did the Harmony Gold dub even get that far? Of course if you talk about that, Goku should be named Zero and whatnot.
tarsonis wrote:The worst thing I've seen though is the crazy amount of people who actually think Mr. Satan's article should be called "H.ercule", simply because it's an English wikipedia and we go by Funimation's dub. (WTF? Since when does that matter? Mr. Satan is the official name). There was a long feud about it a while ago and I tried my best to convince people the guy's name is Mr. Satan (and that H.ercule is completely made up), but no luck.
Even if they go by dub names, FUNi uses Mr. Satan in their uncut dub, so there shouldn't be any dispute.

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Post by Kirbopher » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:43 pm

Akuman was called "Devilman" in the dub if I'm not mistaken.

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Post by Eclipse » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:35 pm

Even if they go by dub names, FUNi uses Mr. Satan in their uncut dub, so there shouldn't be any dispute.
I'd think so too. But apparently, they're using the argument that this is the English Wikipedia, and thus should its English name, and blah blah blah.

And they don't seem notice there is a certain article named 'Vegetto'!

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Post by tarsonis » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:30 pm

Eclipse wrote:But apparently, they're using the argument that this is the English Wikipedia, and thus should its English name, and blah blah blah.
Which is absolutely absurd for so many reasons, one being how Roshi mentioned that they still use Mr. Satan in the uncut version. Maybe I should start a discussion on getting it changed. I know I'll need some reasons though, so if anyone can think of some, jump in.
And they don't seem notice there is a certain article named 'Vegetto'!
Let's hope they never do.

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Post by The S » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:25 pm

I do believe he was Devilman in FUNimation's dub. If I remember correctly (and I may not, so correct me if necessary), the names were as follows:

Draculaman -> Fangs
Invisible Man -> Seethrough
Miirakun -> Bandages
Akuman -> Devilman

In fact, FUNimation's site refers to his attack as the Devilmite beam!
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Post by Mystic Jack » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:06 pm

All we can really do is hope they grow a brain...... nah. :lol:
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Post by Eclipse » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:31 am

Least the Japanese Wikipedia article was interesting :D
If from strength of impression of the original cast, as for the casting of the successor severe critisism it is many and among the old casts, it excludes Kohei Miyauchi who becomes the deceased, as for the mostly dubbing artist afterwards it is returned as for one time with such as game.

Audience rating

* Average audience rating: 20.5 %
* The highest audience rating: 27.5 %
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Post by Folken-sama » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:36 pm

Here's what the "idiot" said on Wikipedia, something our genius, The S, strangely forgot to notice :
Moreover, and that's the final point, "Plan..." appears in an official listing of OVAs made by Tôei Animation in the 1990s : http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/ov1990.html
Let's see what's in this link...

First line : 1990年代OVA作品

Then let's see what we can find in the year "1993" :
ドラゴンボールZ/外伝・サイヤ人絶滅計画(全2巻) 1993年8月

But...that would mean that..."Plan to destroy the Saiyajin" is an OVA :shock:

No, that's not possible, The GENIUS S can't be wrong ! So it's Tôei Animation that are idiots...

After all, it's The S who created DBZ, not Tôei. So Tôei is wrong, that's obvious...

On a more serious note, the "idiot" is very sorry to have written facts that even the people on Daizex forum weren't aware of (or maybe didn't want to admit)... Instead I'm going to add the complete story of DBAF, that'll be more interesting.

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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:26 pm

Well, if you read thearticle that VegettoEX himself wrote, he does admit that the footage can be considered an OVA if that helps.
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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:29 pm

Why are you writing "Tôei" instead of simply "Toei"? That seems like a lot of extra work for something that's... err... yeah.

As for Toei calling it an OVA... what else do you expect them to call it? It's a logical short acronym to list on their page instead of "new animation released as a strategy guide for a game that this animation was first done for but it's actually based on a Famicom game".
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Post by Folken-sama » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:50 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Why are you writing "Tôei" instead of simply "Toei"? That seems like a lot of extra work for something that's... err... yeah.
Well, that's the same for "Daizenshuu" vs "Daizenshu", I think...
As for Toei calling it an OVA... what else do you expect them to call it?

Me ? Nothing else...

But at least I expected that some people would not call me a "moron" or an "idiot" for saying obvious things that had previously been stated by Toei...

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Post by Maphisto86 » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:42 pm

tarsonis wrote:I've made countless edits to various Dragon Ball articles. I generally have to clean up after people have made entries with careless spelling and grammar.

The worst thing I've seen though is the crazy amount of people who actually think Mr. Satan's article should be called "H.ercule", simply because it's an English wikipedia and we go by Funimation's dub. (WTF? Since when does that matter? Mr. Satan is the official name). There was a long feud about it a while ago and I tried my best to convince people the guy's name is Mr. Satan (and that H.ercule is completely made up), but no luck.
Same here... you can find me at the Oozaru article. I have edited little things that just bug me. I'm a avid Wikipedia user! :oops: :lol:

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Post by Bardock-EX » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:45 pm

This is why you shouldn't talk to those people...(they kept correcting people :( )

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Post by desirecampbell » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:57 pm

Folken-sama wrote:But at least I expected that some people would not call me a "moron" or an "idiot" for saying obvious things that had previously been stated by Toei...
It's only an 'OVA' by the meaning of the words not the meaning of the term. Saying 'the Plan to Erratcate the Saiyans' is an OVA because it's animation released directly to video is no more correct than saying "Batman" is anime.

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