Goku & Freeza's Five-Minute Battle!

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:04 pm

zoiozazu wrote:Another interesting point:

Piccolo's blast with about 1.200 Ki destroys the moon in seconds.

Freeza's , with millions of Ki takes "5 minutes" to destroy Namek.

How big was Namek, anyway?

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:05 pm

The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:
zoiozazu wrote:Another interesting point:

Piccolo's blast with about 1.200 Ki destroys the moon in seconds.

Freeza's , with millions of Ki takes "5 minutes" to destroy Namek.

How big was Namek, anyway?

Dodoria called it a "pretty small planet".

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:11 pm

zoiozazu wrote:Another interesting point:

Piccolo's blast with about 1.200 Ki destroys the moon in seconds.

Freeza's , with millions of Ki takes "5 minutes" to destroy Namek.

The Moon is a lot smaller than a Earth-ish planet.

Of course, the idea that organic energy could vaporize the Moon is incredibly silly, much less a planet.

zoiozazu · Post by **zoiozazu** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:41 pm

But look the distance...
And the difference between Piccolo in Sayan Saga and Freeza...

Anyway...

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:30 am

The Tori-bot wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:Freeza says "5 minutes" and then comments that it's taking "a little longer".
Does he say so in the manga? I don't remember...
I just checked the manga, and no, he doesn't say it. Either I missed it or it's filler. But I'm pretty sure it's not there. Toei probably just added it after they realized "five minutes" was taking a dozen episodes.

Incorrect. Freeza says "It's taking longer than expected, but it shouldn't be more than 2 or 3 more minutes!"

This being after a significant chunk of the fight has passed.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:14 am

zoiozazu wrote:But look the distance...
And the difference between Piccolo in Sayan Saga and Freeza...

Actually, given the usual speed of ki, the fact that Piccolo was just using a generic ki blast instead of a specific attack, and how fast it reached the Moon...

DBZ's Moon is a large painted balloon hovering in the atmosphere.

Hm. Well, this does explain why there's no rubble or bad effects on the Earth...

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:23 am

You see the moon again and again in the anime. The manga is pretty much direct with what actually needs to be shown. After Piccolo destroys the moon in the Saiyan Arc, you never see Earth's moon again (according to the manga).

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:43 am

Rocketman wrote:
zoiozazu wrote:But look the distance...
And the difference between Piccolo in Sayan Saga and Freeza...
Actually, given the usual speed of ki, the fact that Piccolo was just using a generic ki blast instead of a specific attack, and how fast it reached the Moon...

DBZ's Moon is a large painted balloon hovering in the atmosphere.

Hm. Well, this does explain why there's no rubble or bad effects on the Earth...

There are four possible reasons:

1)As you say, Earth's moon is a painted ballon.
2)Piccolo was so STRONG that he evaporized the whole moon, and the rubble.
3)Radditz had survived, and destroyed the rubble in the speed of light with the watch the birdie attack, and then went to live with other people, helping them and being a good guy.
4) The moon is a football filled with helium, explaining the explosion. And it was not far away in the atmoshere either.

I think that we can surely assume that number three is the most logical.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:58 am

*pant* *pant*Piccolo was a bit washed out after he destroyed the moon. I think he had to put all of his power into it. *pant* *pant*

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:04 pm

Godo wrote:2)Piccolo was so STRONG that he evaporized the whole moon, and the rubble.

...

Whew... I needed that.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:38 pm

Godo wrote:3)Radditz had survived, and destroyed the rubble in the speed of light with the watch the birdie attack, and then went to live with other people, helping them and being a good guy.

I'm assuming this is before the Farmer w/ Shotgun exacted his revenge?

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:47 pm

Duo wrote:
Godo wrote:3)Radditz had survived, and destroyed the rubble in the speed of light with the watch the birdie attack, and then went to live with other people, helping them and being a good guy.
I'm assuming this is before the Farmer w/ Shotgun exacted his revenge?

Surely did the farmer exact his revenge, but Radditz was revived by the use of the Yadrat Dragonballs.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:49 pm

Godo wrote:
Duo wrote:
Godo wrote:3)Radditz had survived, and destroyed the rubble in the speed of light with the watch the birdie attack, and then went to live with other people, helping them and being a good guy.
I'm assuming this is before the Farmer w/ Shotgun exacted his revenge?
Surely did the farmer exact his revenge, but Radditz was revived by the use of the Yadrat Dragonballs.

Cell's cells were suppose to include the farmer but if they did Cell wouldn't die. Akira told me before his nth heart attack.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:33 pm

I can surely say that it was between my tenth, not ninth heart-attack when I told you about that.

Forget this post.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:37 pm

The farmer himself was awesome, sure. But it was his MAG +100 Shotgun that was responsible for most of his power.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:14 pm

Mr.Piccolo wrote:
The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:
zoiozazu wrote:Another interesting point:

Piccolo's blast with about 1.200 Ki destroys the moon in seconds.

Freeza's , with millions of Ki takes "5 minutes" to destroy Namek.

How big was Namek, anyway?
Dodoria called it a "pretty small planet".

Oh, alright. Somehow I got the idea it was big but I guess not.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:30 pm

The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:Oh, alright. Somehow I got the idea it was big but I guess not.

It's about the same size as Earth, since Bulma has no trouble walking.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:32 pm

Rocketman wrote:
The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:Oh, alright. Somehow I got the idea it was big but I guess not.
It's about the same size as Earth, since Bulma has no trouble walking.

It could simply be less dense than Earth. If the gravitational pull of Namek was the same as Earth, then it's total mass was probably the same as Earth.