Why was the American Music changed?

[MajinVejitaXV]

C'mon Corey...

You may be right. I haven't tried FUNi's DragonBall DVD's, but then again they're not all out (something that probably could easily be remedied by the company entering into negotiations with KidMark, who obviously wants a cut of the profits hence their renewal of their license). If anything, DragonBall's approach would make me wonder why (moreso) FUNi couldn't handle DBZ/GT in a competant manner.

As for GT...yay 64 episode series on 20 discs! And let's skip the first part of the series because we can't let the ADHD crowd think DBGT has plot! ACTION, ACTION, MORE ACTION! >_>;;

The color stuff that you brought up just accents FUNi's inability to let the series be and to author it to a digital medium with competancy. They're obsessed with 'fixing' the series when nothing is wrong. And I'm not comparing it to the DragonBox alone (though that is the closest to reference level material on the market), I'm comparing it to other country's releases on television or otherwise and FUNi's own recaps on the Freeza discs when they had seperate video tracks for the English/Japanese versions.

Anyway, I'll amend my statement:

FUNi is a good company with everything except the latter two-thirds of the DragonBall trilogy (though, to their credit, at least they milked GT for 20 discs and got it all out on the market finally).

If you wanna discuss this, new thread. I don't wanna hi-jack this one any further.

-Corey

[Vegetasan]

Eh, for me it would be the simple fact that music (in the context of cinema or television) is an integral part of establishing the feel of a given scene. By altering the music (along with the dialogue), you drastically change a scene's intended feel. Also, Falconer composed his scores with a...somewhat strange opinion of the characters (i.e. "Goku is this rock n' roll guy", etc).

I guess the easiest way to put it would be that Falconer's scores may work as musical pieces by themselves (though I personally can't say I'm impressed with his compositions, some have a hook but most seem to be forgettable and designed simply to eliminate silence), but they don't work for DragonBall Z. It seems kind of insulting to replace the original score simply because Gen Fukunaga wanted to appeal to the ADHD youngsters who would view the original compositions as 'the GHEY'.

-Corey

In Faulconer's defense, he was simply achieveing what was being asked of him. "Bruce, adapt this show to fit within American mainstream, i.e. some rock/techno vibes". And being given those guidelines, I think he did a heck of a job. I've read comments that his music is just noise and it's just filling up empty space, etc. but I really don't see any of that as resembling the reality of the situation whatsoever.

The fact is, his music is different from the original Japanese score, and THAT is why some people hate it. And, I am willing to accept that as a reason for disliking the dubbed version of DBZ. But it's kind of frustrating to see Faulconer himself being attacked for the music he composed. The man made good music. It may not have fit within the DBZ universe in your opinion (and in the opinion of a great many people), nevertheless I loved it and in fact, I'm listening to the track "Trunks Story" as we speak.

[Super Sonic]

We have the uncut DVDs provided by FUNimation with Daimao's excellent subtitles, alongside the first season DVDs which most notably will have the option to change the music with the dub. FUNi's doing all they can & right now, they're an excellent dubbing company (even though I don't buy their merchandise beyond Dragon Ball).

Let's not go overboard

[LOL BUY SAEM EPISODES 2-3 TIMES/MAD MORE COLOR YO/WIDESCREEN THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE SEEN/HOW I MAEK MPEG-2 COMPRESS??/etc].

They're a good company with everything except the DragonBall trilogy.

So you hate the FMA, YYH, FB, etc music too?

They changed the music on those three? I could have sworn Fruits Basket had the original score O_o;;

-Corey

Never seen Fruits Baskets, but the other two had the original Japanese music. I was saying that he didn't like them because they were done by the same company. Shouldn't judge a company's entire lineup by just one or two bad things they did. Even 4Kids had a few good shows.

[Casual Matt]

We have the uncut DVDs provided by FUNimation with Daimao's excellent subtitles, alongside the first season DVDs which most notably will have the option to change the music with the dub. FUNi's doing all they can & right now, they're an excellent dubbing company (even though I don't buy their merchandise beyond Dragon Ball).

Let's not go overboard

[LOL BUY SAEM EPISODES 2-3 TIMES/MAD MORE COLOR YO/WIDESCREEN THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE SEEN/HOW I MAEK MPEG-2 COMPRESS??/etc].

They're a good company with everything except the DragonBall trilogy.

So you hate the FMA, YYH, FB, etc music too?

They changed the music on those three? I could have sworn Fruits Basket had the original score O_o;;

-Corey

Never seen Fruits Baskets, but the other two had the original Japanese music. I was saying that he didn't like them because they were done by the same company. Shouldn't judge a company's entire lineup by just one or two bad things they did. Even 4Kids had a few good shows.

Yeah, Ninja Turtles, but that wasn't a dubbed anime.

Me and my brother are both perplexed by how 4kids could be responsible for such a good show.

[Super Sonic]

I was also referring to Ultimate Muscle which was more popular in the States than it was in Japan, which they even paid for another season and better ending. Also preferred Pokemon when they had it.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Never seen Fruits Baskets, but the other two had the original Japanese music. I was saying that he didn't like them because they were done by the same company. Shouldn't judge a company's entire lineup by just one or two bad things they did. Even 4Kids had a few good shows.

I'm confused. Your original quote mentioned hating the music though, and FUNimation had nothing to do with the scores of those series (save for dubbing intros and outros into English, for FB at least) O_o;;

-Corey

[desirecampbell]

Never seen Fruits Baskets, but the other two had the original Japanese music. I was saying that he didn't like them because they were done by the same company. Shouldn't judge a company's entire lineup by just one or two bad things they did. Even 4Kids had a few good shows.

I'm confused. Your original quote mentioned hating the music though, and FUNimation had nothing to do with the scores of those series (save for dubbing intros and outros into English, for FB at least) O_o;;

-Corey

The first guy said he hated Funimation, then he was asked if he hated other Funimation products (FMA, FB, and YYH as examples because they, unlike DBZ, kept their original score).

I think.

"MAD MORE COLOR YO"

[MajinVejitaXV]

See, I thought I might have misread it and that was the case, but he actually calls him on the music which makes no sense:

Because Funimation is the scum of the earth and has no appreciation for good music. Plus they wanted to be able to collect royalties for every second it was played.

So you hate the FMA, YYH, FB, etc music too?

"MAD MORE COLOR YO"

Ni**a please ;p

-Corey

[Kendamu]

Plus, I seem to remember reading an interview with him wherein he seemed to have a bit of an ego (talking about how 'Spirit vs. Spirit' was synthesizers too, and he used Japanese synthesizers so it had no advantage over his works) which didn't seem warranted IMHO.

-Corey

Whaa--? Sih... fuh.. zshe.... aah...

*toes curl up* *at a loss for words*

Ful....

Fulconer said that? Y'know, there's a whole two tracks I actually like from the guy, and I can tolerate most of the other tracks. However, for him to say that about Spirit vs. Spirit, while he ruined the freakin' Cell saga for me audio wise with that "doo DEE doo didoo di doo DEE doo didoo di I am Cell didoo di doo" crap repeatedly through the entire Cell Game, is just too far!

That's like me saying "I can play better than Hendrix if I use the same kind of guitar and hold it lefty style" or "If I become deaf and start playing piano I will be better than Beethoven".

The current "widescreen" issue going on right now is nothing compared to this.

[Mr.Piccolo]

::walks into thread only to see its been taken over by Chris Rock::

[SatoSky]

::walks into thread only to see its been taken over by Chris Rock::

Cracker ass cracker!

I don't really dislike white people... do I!

[Sebastian (SB)]

Are Falcouner's tracks automatically bad because its not the original or because "it suckkkks and its ghey"?

I don't think that's what wer'e trying to establish (so far), but rather that it's a bit unfair & extreme to say Falcouner's music is better than Kikuchi's & vice-versa.

::walks into thread only to see its been taken over by Chris Rock::

Hey, at least it wasn't 50 Cent or something.